Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 25.11.2012 23:46, schrieb William Kenworthy: > Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the drive prematurely? - > any other effects? > > I have a system that is maxed with with 4G ram and tends to use swap > heavily at times which slows things down ... so I am thinking a small > ssd migh

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 25.11.2012 22:53, schrieb Grant: > What are your favorite easy Gentoo tricks? Stuff that makes your system > a lot better in some way with only a minimal amount of effort. I just > discovered one for xfce4: > > emerge tumbler > > No other config. Really cool result. > > - Grant cgroups ar

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread George Karagiannidis
Greetings. Philipp, I am currently using XFCE and I would like to switch to KDE, but I consider it a bit bloated :S. Do you mind sharing the way you setup your KDE? regards, George Karagiannidis On 11/26/2012 10:38 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 25.11.2012 22:53, schrieb Grant: What are your

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.11.2012 09:49, schrieb George Karagiannidis: > On 11/26/2012 10:38 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: >> Am 25.11.2012 22:53, schrieb Grant: >>> What are your favorite easy Gentoo tricks? Stuff that makes your system >>> a lot better in some way with only a minimal amount of effort. I just >>> disc

[gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list! I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has anyone else observed that? Is there a way to inspect X server's memory usage? Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digita

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 08:23:44 schrieb William Kenworthy: > On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 00:02 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 06:46:28 schrieb William Kenworthy: > > > Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the drive prematurely? - > > > any other effe

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: > Hi list! > > I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server > to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has > anyone else observed that? Is there a way to inspect X server's memory > usage? I h

[gentoo-user] Re: nagios remote host

2012-11-26 Thread Moritz Schlarb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You have to configure nrpe on the remote host you want to monitor. E.g. you want to execute check_load on the remote host - to get this working, you have to tell the nrpe server that "check_load" means. In a normal environment, the check name is the o

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread microcai
2012/11/26 Volker Armin Hemmann : > Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 08:23:44 schrieb William Kenworthy: >> On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 00:02 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 06:46:28 schrieb William Kenworthy: >> > > Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the dr

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread William Kenworthy
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 09:17 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 25.11.2012 23:46, schrieb William Kenworthy: > > Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the drive prematurely? - > > any other effects? > > > > I have a system that is maxed with with 4G ram and tends to use swap > > heavily at

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: >> Hi list! >> >> I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server >> to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has >> anyone else observed that? Is there a way to inspect X server's me

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:48:58 +0800 microcai wrote: > 2012/11/26 Volker Armin Hemmann : > > Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 08:23:44 schrieb William Kenworthy: > >> On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 00:02 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> > Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 06:46:28 schrieb William Kenworthy:

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Jacques Montier
2012/11/26 Daniel Troeder > On 25.11.2012 22:43, Jacques Montier wrote: > > Each time you sync the portage, you should write on the SSD... > > Is it a good thing ? > It is the best thing since rsync! Really - it is amazing! > > And about portage: you write in your portage tree not nearly as often

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:48:58 +0800 > microcai wrote: > > I suggest 16G if you'll buy next year. KDE will eat 2G itself. :) > No it won't. > > The mere fact that you even typed that is absurd. > > KDE, like most sane software, will use ram intelligently. If you turn > on se

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 Nov 2012 12:43:38 Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: > >> Hi list! > >> > >> I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server > >> to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has > >> anyone e

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 08:45:44 schrieb Daniel Troeder: > On 25.11.2012 22:43, Jacques Montier wrote: > > Each time you sync the portage, you should write on the SSD... > > Is it a good thing ? > > It is the best thing since rsync! Really - it is amazing! > > And about portage: you write i

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira
Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while u are compiling anything. Or even with 6Gb too. I don't worry to much about use the SSD, the only thing that i do is use distfiles, music/video/photos on HDD to safe space. And the TMPDIR thing when i'm compiling a lot of thin

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira writes: Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while u are compiling anything. Or even with 6Gb too. I have 16 GB, with 8GB for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs. There were issues with some packages having not enough space, so I have this in

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 26.11.2012 15:01, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > 2 year warranty only covers production defects. Not failure because > of abuse. I cannot imagine it to say "do not let your OS swap on this flash disk". Most people have no clue what swap is, and all those netbooks nowadays have only a cheap SSD at

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 26.11.2012 15:35, Alex Schuster wrote: > Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira writes: > >> Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while >> u are compiling anything. >> Or even with 6Gb too. > > I have 16 GB, with 8GB for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs. There were issues > with

[gentoo-user] Re: swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > A storage device that broke if you tried to store stuff on it would > break trading laws in any civilised country. That wouldn't stop most large companies from selling them anyway... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I'm also pre-P

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira
Nice way to handle that. I only had problems with libreoffice. But i mount the tmpdir ondemand, and when libreoffice needs update i use the SSD instead. I have 16GB too, and in general use 4GB for tmpfs on TMPDIR, i think only some packages need more then that. 2012/11/26 Alex Schuster > Luis

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Jacques Montier
2012/11/26 Alex Schuster > Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira writes: > > Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while >> u are compiling anything. >> Or even with 6Gb too. >> > > I have 16 GB, with 8GB for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs. There were issues > with some packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Monday 26 Nov 2012 12:43:38 Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: > Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira writes: > >> Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while >> u are compiling anything. >> Or even with 6Gb too. > > I have 16 GB, with 8GB for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs. There were issues > with some packages having no

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira
I think u misunderstand, i belive that what Schuster have is tmpfs always mounted on /var/tmp/portage, and PORTAGE_TMPDIR will be that. When he need more than 8Gb in some package PORTAGE_TMPDIR will be /var/portage/tmp and that on HDD. What i have is /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs config in fstab with

[gentoo-user] EFI Boot on Linux

2012-11-26 Thread Michael Mol
Since I've seen the issue crop up more and more frequently on Linux-related mailing lists, I thought I'd share this link that I spotted this morning. It's an explanation of how EFI and Linux work together. http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/principles.html -- :wq

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 10:22:17 schrieb Mick: > On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: > > Hi list! > > > > I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server > > to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has > > anyone else observe

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.11.2012 10:56, schrieb Florian Philipp: > Hi list! > > I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server > to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has > anyone else observed that? Is there a way to inspect X server's memory > usage? > > Regards

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:23:08PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > /usr/src/makeover > ***IMPORTANT*** The arch/x86 directory is specific to 32-bit i686 > kernels. Adjust accordingly if you use a different architecture. > > #!/bin/bash > make &&

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:21:34 -0600 schrieb Bruce Hill : > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:23:08PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > /usr/src/makeover > > ***IMPORTANT*** The arch/x86 directory is specific to 32-bit i686 > > kernels. Adjust accordingly if you use a different architecture. > > #

[gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?

2012-11-26 Thread Pascal J. Bourguignon
I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this conflict: * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be * installed at the same time on the same system. (sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20120127084908::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by s

Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?

2012-11-26 Thread John Campbell
On 11/26/2012 02:55 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: [blocks B ] net-tools requires openrc >= 0.9.9.3. Your installed openrc, and proposed update, is too old. Upgrade to openrc-0.11.5... It came online on Saturday.

Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?

2012-11-26 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:55:50PM +0100, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: > > I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this > conflict: > > where both sys-apps/net-tools and sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 therefore > sys-apps/openrc are required by the system. > > What can I d

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:41:41PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote > > Hah, I wonder if that's because the script was written before the x86 > and x86_64 architectures were merged in the kernel :) . I remember > Heise reporting on that a few years back. Probably correct. The machine is approx 4 years

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 06:59:43PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > have a couple of of IBM "clickety-clack" 104-keyboard specials that were > being thrown out by my former employer a few years ago. I love them. Had to leave mine in China when we moved back last year. If you want to get rid of one.

Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?

2012-11-26 Thread jens wefer
Am Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:55:50 +0100 schrieb "Pascal J. Bourguignon" : > > I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this > conflict: > > [...] first update openrc, then world emerge --update openrc emerge --update world