J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Mon, September 17, 2012 8:48 pm, Dale wrote:
>> I still have not hooked this thing up yet. We have storms predicted
>> here over the next couple days so I figure I will get a chance to switch
>> whether I want to reboot or not. :/ I live close to the end of the
>> power
Am Mon, 17 Sep 2012 23:27:34 +0100
schrieb David W Noon :
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:17:47 -0400, Philip Webb wrote about Re:
> [gentoo-user] new machine : suddenly Python 3 appears:
>
> > 120917 Philip Webb wrote:
> > > 120917 David W Noon wrote:
> > >>print(' {0}'.format(eval(exp
On Tue, September 18, 2012 9:03 am, Dale wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On Mon, September 17, 2012 8:48 pm, Dale wrote:
>>> I still have not hooked this thing up yet. We have storms predicted
>>> here over the next couple days so I figure I will get a chance to
>>> switch
>>> whether I want to r
J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tue, September 18, 2012 9:03 am, Dale wrote:
>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On Mon, September 17, 2012 8:48 pm, Dale wrote:
I still have not hooked this thing up yet. We have storms predicted
here over the next couple days so I figure I will get a chance to
swit
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:51:49 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > Plus, aren't you supposed to only unplug/plug a serial cable when it
> > is off? I'm not sure if they are sensitive to that but pretty sure
> > they were a long time ago.
>
> Not sure about Serial, I always did even when switched on w
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:51:49 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
>>> Plus, aren't you supposed to only unplug/plug a serial cable when it
>>> is off? I'm not sure if they are sensitive to that but pretty sure
>>> they were a long time ago.
>> Not sure about Serial, I always did e
> You were lucky, it's like forgetting to look when you cross the road.
> Getting away with it once doesn't mean it is safe.
>
> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because I'd
> got away with it before.
I must have hot plugged serial connections on Sun, Cisco and Intel
bo
On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Joseph wrote:
I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
error:
NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
in "inittab" I have:
c7:2345:respawn:/usr/sbin/faxgetty ttyS0
is the above correct?
Joseph wrote:
>On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>Joseph wrote:
>>
>>>I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
>>>error:
>>>
>>>NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
>>>(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
>>>
>>>in "inittab" I have:
>>>c7:2345:respawn:/usr/sb
J. Roeleveld writes:
Joseph wrote:
ls -l /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Sep 17 20:56
/dev/ttyS0
Is the above correct permission?
Those are default permissions. However those normally won't give a
normal user access. You can change the permissions of that
file/device to enable you
On 09/18/12 15:03, J. Roeleveld wrote:
[snip]
The tty0 has permission:
ls -l /dev/ttyS0
crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Sep 17 20:56 /dev/ttyS0
Is the above correct permission?
Thanks,
Those are default permissions. However those normally won't give a normal user
access. You can change the pe
On 09/18/12 15:12, Alex Schuster wrote:
J. Roeleveld writes:
Joseph wrote:
ls -l /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Sep 17 20:56
/dev/ttyS0
Is the above correct permission?
Those are default permissions. However those normally won't give a
normal user access. You can change the perm
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 15:12, Alex Schuster wrote:
>>
>> J. Roeleveld writes:
>>
>>> Joseph wrote:
>>
>>
ls -l /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Sep 17 20:56
/dev/ttyS0
Is the above correct permission?
>>
>>
>>> Those are default perm
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:55:30 +1000, Adam Carter wrote:
> > You were lucky, it's like forgetting to look when you cross the road.
> > Getting away with it once doesn't mean it is safe.
> >
> > Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because
> > I'd got away with it before.
>
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 02:13:14 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Peter Humphrey
>
> wrote:
> > I resent the kernel's insistence on deciding when my monitor should
> > be switched off. I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself, thank
> > you very much.
>
> Well
On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Joseph wrote:
I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
error:
NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
in "inittab" I have:
c7:2345:respawn:/usr/sbin/faxgetty ttyS0
is the above correct?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Peter Humphrey
wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 September 2012 02:13:14 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Peter Humphrey
>>
>> wrote:
>> > I resent the kernel's insistence on deciding when my monitor should
>> > be switched off. I'm perfectly c
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>
>> Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
>>> error:
>>>
>>> NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
>>> (VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
>>>
>>> in "
On 2012-09-18, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>Joseph wrote:
>>
>>>I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
>>>error:
>>>
>>>NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
>>>(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
[...]
>>>What am I missing?
>>Do you h
On 09/18/12 11:01, Michael Mol wrote:
How do I check if some other application are not using serial port?
lsof -n |grep /dev/tty
--
:wq
Nothing is using ttyS0 so I'm puzzled why virtualbox is giving me permission
error
--
Joseph
On 09/18/12 15:06, Grant Edwards wrote:
I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
error:
NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
[...]
What am I missing?
Do you have permissions set correctly to access the serial port
normally
On 2012-09-18, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 15:06, Grant Edwards wrote:
>I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
>error:
>
>NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
>(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
>>[...]
>What am I missing?
>>
Do you ha
On 2012-09-18, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 11:01, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>
>>> How do I check if some other application are not using serial port?
>>
>>lsof -n |grep /dev/tty
>>
>>--
>>:wq
>
> Nothing is using ttyS0
That has nothing to do with a permission error. If you had proper
permissions, y
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because I'd
> got away with it before.
The strangest thing I fried via hotplug was an Ethernet card via cat5
cable insertion! It made a little electrical "pop" sound and that was
t
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because I'd
>> got away with it before.
>
> The strangest thing I fried via hotplug was an Ethernet card via cat5
> cable i
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because I'd
>>> got away with it before.
>>
>> The strangest thi
Hi all,
Are there any known tricks for auto-mounting an MTP device? I think
this stuff is used on some newer Android phone so I'm hoping someone
has a nice solution.
My wife decided to buy the new Kindle Fire HD based on our good
experience with the original Kindle Fire. The new device is ve
On 09/18/12 15:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
[snip]
I'm in group "tty", so I can not figure it out why virtualbox is
complaining.
What happens when you do "cat /dev/ttyS0"?
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! ... bleakness
at
Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale:
> >> The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'.
> >> Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything so I don't
> >> t
Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 04:50:30 schrieb Dale:
> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
> Odd.
>
indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
--
#163933
Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 13:03:15 schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
> >
> > wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick
wrote:
> >>> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, beca
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
>>> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Yes,
Neil Bothwick wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:51:49 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
>> > Plus, aren't you supposed to only unplug/plug a serial cable when
>it
>> > is off? I'm not sure if they are sensitive to that but pretty sure
>> > they were a long time ago.
>>
>> Not sure about Serial, I alw
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale:
The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'.
Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeu
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 04:50:30 schrieb Dale:
>
>> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
>> Odd.
>>
> indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
>
>
Well, I meant for the serial/parallel chips tho. Surely it ca
Paul Hartman wrote:
>On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick
>wrote:
>> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because
>I'd
>> got away with it before.
>
>The strangest thing I fried via hotplug was an Ethernet card via cat5
>cable insertion! It made a little electri
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Dale wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 04:50:30 schrieb Dale:
>>
>>> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
>>> Odd.
>>>
>> indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
>>
>>
>
> Wel
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dale wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale:
>>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale:
> The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N her
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:30:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
> >> Odd.
> >>
> > indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
> Well, I meant for the serial/parallel chips tho. Surely it can't be
> hard to at least keep
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:37:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
> UBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0007",
> MODE="0666" mark@c2stable ~ $
>
>Anyway, it's all usable but a bit clumsy. Is there a sensible way I
> can ha
Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 04:50:30 schrieb Dale:
>>>
One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
Odd.
>>> indeed. The modern stuff with protection is
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:30:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
Odd.
>>> indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
>> Well, I meant for the serial/parallel chips tho. Surely it can't be
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale:
>> The important part is about 'if yo
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I
> brought my 46" LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and
> other electronics). After a couple of months of shock of seeing the
> electric bills, we sta
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:30:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>
> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
> Odd.
>
indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
>>> Well, I meant fo
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I
>> brought my 46" LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and
>> other electronics). After a couple of months of shock of seeing
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:03:15 -0500
Dale wrote:
> My biggest expenses, refrigeration and heating/cooling. I have a
> large fridge, two deep freezers, two window A/C's for summer and a
> large heater for the winter. Compare any of those to my computer, the
> computer is a rounding error. My main
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:00:00 -0500
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Dale wrote:
> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:30:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >>
> > One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of
> > protection. Odd.
> >
> indee
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:37:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
>> UBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0007",
>> MODE="0666" mark@c2stable ~ $
>>
>>Anyway, it's
On 2012-09-18, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:37:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
>>> UBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0007",
>>> MODE="0666
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:03:15 Dale wrote:
> My biggest expenses, refrigeration and heating/cooling. I have a
> large fridge, two deep freezers, two window A/C's for summer and a
> large heater for the winter. Compare any of those to my computer,
> the computer is a rounding error. My ma
The rest of my new box is working, but -- as expected -- mail isn't.
I can send mail, which is recorded in syslog & arrives at this machine,
but I can't grab mail from the 2 mail servers out there (ISP + UoT).
The cron job in /var/spool/cron/crontabs is the same as here
with the same permission
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2012-09-18, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:37:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>
mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
UBSYSTEM=="usb", A
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:03:15 Dale wrote:
>
>> My biggest expenses, refrigeration and heating/cooling. I have a
>> large fridge, two deep freezers, two window A/C's for summer and a
>> large heater for the winter. Compare any of those to my computer,
>> the compute
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> As someone who's done more electronics work than he ever should, any
> device that can suffer electrical damage simply by being plugged and
> unplugged from the thing it's supposed to be plugged into is a shoddy
> design and really should be in the bin. The only thing I ever
On 09/18/2012 10:37 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi all,
>Are there any known tricks for auto-mounting an MTP device? I think
> this stuff is used on some newer Android phone so I'm hoping someone
> has a nice solution.
MTP is used on a quite a few newer Android devices, including my Nexus
7. I ha
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Dale wrote:
> New question about HDMI. I have a pretty nice video card that has a 15
> pin connector and HDMI. Do I have to do anything special to use the
> HDMI or does it just send the same signal to both connectors? I have my
> monitor hooked to the 15 pin co
Yet another obscure + unexpected bump to trip over.
I carefully copied .fetchmailrc from the other machine
-- I'm now using the new one to send this -- made sure
it was owned by 'purslow' (user) & had read permissions. Not enough !
Could I get error msgs ? How could I find out what it was doi
On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500
>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>>> When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I
>>> brought my 46" LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and
>>> other electronics).
Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
> On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500
>>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>
When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I
brought my 46" LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 compu
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