[gentoo-user] How to record memory usage & bandwidth usage?

2011-10-11 Thread Pandu Poluan
The head honcho of my company just asked me to "plan for migration of X into the cloud" (where "X" is the online trading server that our investors used). Now, I need to monitor how much RAM is used throughout the day by X, also how much bandwidth gets eaten by X throughout the day. What tools do

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 02:39:10 Michael Mol wrote: > As far as food goes, for me, it's really not the kind of food, but how > much of it I eat. First step is to eat smaller portions, so that my > stomach shrinks and I feel fuller sooner. Calories are not all the same, because we metabolise them mo

Re: [gentoo-user] automount USB

2011-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 23:44:00 +0200, Michal Halenka wrote: > I am looking fow a way, how to automount USB disks (or CD) by normal > user. I find many ways (udev, hal, policykit, udisks, autofs), but I am > just ordinary user, so I don´t know which one is deprecated (hal?), > which one is easy to us

Re: [gentoo-user] Cups and Ricoh Aficio 270

2011-10-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 06:16:14 Willie Matthews wrote: > On Mon Oct 10 18:32:13 2011, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > > On Tue 11 Oct 2011 01:13:41 AM IST, Mick wrote: > >> I'm struggling to get anything printed properly - is there a proper > >> driver for this printer in CUPS. The driver I've chose

Re: [gentoo-user] How to record memory usage & bandwidth usage?

2011-10-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 10:48:31 Pandu Poluan wrote: > The head honcho of my company just asked me to "plan for migration of > X into the cloud" (where "X" is the online trading server that our > investors used). > > Now, I need to monitor how much RAM is used throughout the day by X, > also how mu

Re: [gentoo-user] How to record memory usage & bandwidth usage?

2011-10-11 Thread Matthew Marlowe
Pandu, Any modern monitoring framework/server with a web interface will have tools to select metrics to retrieve and store into a database and display/graph/alert as needed using whatever reasonable collection interval you define. If your metrics are relatively simple, you should be able to get a

Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?

2011-10-11 Thread Jonas de Buhr
hey guys, please don't get me wrong on this one, i mean no offense. can anyone explain to me what this is? are these lavender threads some kind of trolling i don't get? it (apparently on purpose, since hints in that direction are ignored) combines loads of annoying qualities: - nondescriptive ti

this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:27 +0200 schrieb Jonas de Buhr : > it's nice how much many people on this this list are willing to help > in spite of all this. but am i really the only one who finds the > behavior described above at least confusing? > anyway, i'm quite convinced it is fake. no, apparen

Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 12:51:12 Jonas de Buhr wrote: > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:27 +0200 > > schrieb Jonas de Buhr : > > it's nice how much many people on this this list are willing to help > > in spite of all this. but am i really the only one who finds the > > behavior described above at least

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?

2011-10-11 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: > hey guys, > > please don't get me wrong on this one, i mean no offense. > can anyone explain to me what this is? are these lavender threads some > kind of trolling i don't get? > > it (apparently on purpose, since hints in that direction are

Re: [gentoo-user] automount USB

2011-10-11 Thread Michal Halenka
> > ...The answer may have a lot to do with what GUI you use. Do you use KDE, > Gnome, Fluxbox > or something else? Once that is known, then help will come along. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Hi, I am using awesome WM, /usr/bin/startx. I am using some GTK apps, and some Qt apps.

Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:54:06 +0100 schrieb Mick : > On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 12:51:12 Jonas de Buhr wrote: > > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:27 +0200 > > > > schrieb Jonas de Buhr : > > > it's nice how much many people on this this list are willing to > > > help in spite of all this. but am i really th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?

2011-10-11 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:54:37 -0400 schrieb Michael Mol : > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jonas de Buhr > wrote: > > hey guys, > > > > please don't get me wrong on this one, i mean no offense. > > can anyone explain to me what this is? are these lavender threads > > some kind of trolling i don'

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?

2011-10-11 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:54:37 -0400 > schrieb Michael Mol : > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jonas de Buhr >> wrote: >> > hey guys, >> > >> > please don't get me wrong on this one, i mean no offense. >> > can anyone explain to me what t

[gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-11 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Tuesday 11 October 2011, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 08 October 2011 19:43:53 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > I'm going to start a bug-filing campaign against packages like this > > some day. The only description we ever get for use flag foo is > > 'enable support for foo', which doesn't tel

[gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-11 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 08 October 2011, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 10/08/11 15:09, Francesco Talamona wrote: > > I'm not going to complain, though I'm willing to point out (e.g. > > commenting on relevant bug reports) that some packages are affected > > in a bad way by this move. > > Comment here? The devs

[gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-11 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 09 October 2011, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 10/09/11 13:53, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > For rxvt, a suitable flag name would be "plugins" > > Or if there were some package-specific documentation that said, > "perl: enable the following plugins (written in perl): tabs, > transparency, etc.

[gentoo-user] Re: How to record memory usage & bandwidth usage?

2011-10-11 Thread James
Pandu Poluan poluan.info> writes: > The head honcho of my company just asked me to "plan for migration of > X into the cloud" (where "X" is the online trading server that our > investors used). This is a single server or many at different locations. If a WAN monitoring is what you are after, al

[gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-11 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 08 October 2011, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 10/08/11 15:09, Francesco Talamona wrote: > > I'm not going to complain, though I'm willing to point out (e.g. > > commenting on relevant bug reports) that some packages are affected > > in a bad way by this move. > > Comment here? The devs

Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:08:19 +0200 Jonas de Buhr wrote: > what really points into the direction of spam in my opinion is using > the different names mentioned of stopforumspam. and that others went > as far as reporting it. Simplest possible answer: Chinese internet cafe's that use NAT. It onl

[gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
As mentioned in the systemd-posting I migrated back to an SSD today (on my main rig, the thinkpad uses an SSD happily for a long time now). A feature in a local magazine updated my knowledge of how to make use of the TRIM-command. It told me not to use the mount-option "discard" anymore, but run

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Didn't do much research around this lately. Today I revived my SSD (we'll see) and therefore fell over systemd when I edited grub.conf Where would/should I put stuff from /etc/local.d/ with systemd? I have some commands there setting parameters for ssd-usage and those would be skipped (not exe

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > Didn't do much research around this lately. > > Today I revived my SSD (we'll see) and therefore fell over systemd when > I edited grub.conf > > Where would/should I put stuff from /etc/local.d/ with systemd? > > I have some comman

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.10.2011 23:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: [...] > systemctl status ssd-thingies.service > > If everything went OK, it should have a line like this: > > Process: 1234 ExecStart=/my/path/to/ssd-thingies (code=exited, > status=0/SUCCESS) > > Regards. Thanks for the explanation! I tried

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:56:31 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > As mentioned in the systemd-posting I migrated back to an SSD today (on > my main rig, the thinkpad uses an SSD happily for a long time now). > > A feature in a local magazine updated my knowledge of how to make use of > the TRI

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:56:31 +0200 "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > > As mentioned in the systemd-posting I migrated back to an SSD today > (on my main rig, the thinkpad uses an SSD happily for a long time > now). > > A feature in a local magazine updated my knowledge of how to make use > of the

[gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Allan Gottlieb
For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Summary: gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I get to the login screen but then gnome-shell crashes. I tried to downgrade to gnome-shell-3.0.2-r1, but that needs libgnome-menu, which is not in portage/layman. The crash o

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 11.10.2011 23:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > > [...] > >> systemctl status ssd-thingies.service >> >> If everything went OK, it should have a line like this: >> >> Process: 1234 ExecStart=/my/path/to/ssd-thingies (code=exited,

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 12.10.2011 00:05, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > This seems in accordance with the fstrim man page: > > "fstrim will report the same potential discard bytes each time, > but only sectors which had been written to between the discards > would actually be discarded by the storage device." Didn't see

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 12.10.2011 00:05, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > Yes, you misunderstand how fstrim works. It's not up to you to say what > it does exactly, it's up to the drive firmware and possibly the kernel. > It's actually fully described in the man page right there in the part > for option -v :-) So it only t

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0. > Summary: > > gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I get to the > login screen but then gnome-shell crashes.  I trie

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 12.10.2011 00:23, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > Your script (I believe) does not have execution perms. All the > commands for ExecStart (and ExecStop) need to be executable, so do a > > chmod +x /etc/local.d/stefan.start I showed you before: # ll /etc/local.d/stefan.start -rwxr-xr-x 1 root

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 12.10.2011 00:23, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> Your script (I believe) does not have execution perms. All the >> commands for ExecStart (and ExecStop) need to be executable, so do a >> >> chmod +x /etc/local.d/stefan.start > >

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 12.10.2011 00:47, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> # ll /etc/local.d/stefan.start >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 795 11. Okt 16:47 /etc/local.d/stefan.start > > Sorry, didn't see it. Can you execute it calling it directly? Maybe > it's missing the proper shebang. The shebang did the trick! Thanks

[gentoo-user] Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:54:06 +0100 > schrieb Mick : > > > On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 12:51:12 Jonas de Buhr wrote: > > > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:27 +0200 > > > > > > schrieb Jonas de Buhr : > > > > it's nice how much many people on this this l

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:28:03 +0200 "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > Am 12.10.2011 00:05, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > > Yes, you misunderstand how fstrim works. It's not up to you to say > > what it does exactly, it's up to the drive firmware and possibly > > the kernel. It's actually fully describ

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread David Abbott
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. > > Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0. > Working OK here also, here is my .xsession-errors http://paste.poco

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:16:56 -0400 Matthew Finkel wrote: > I understand why you would think the OP is a spammer, but the topic > just seems too genuine (to me at least) for this to actually be spam. > It definitely would have been more polite if Lavender had replied to > the other suggestions, bu

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. > > Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0. > >> Summary: >> >> gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I get

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Tue, Oct 11 2011, David Abbott wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >>> For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. >> >> Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0. >> > Working OK here

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >>> For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. >> >> Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0. >> >>> Summary: >>

[gentoo-user] "/usr/bin/[" and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread William Kenworthy
I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the process, ran across the fact that "equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7" shows a file included called "/usr/bin/[" - thats right, left square bracket! Is that a bug or if real, what would you use it for? It doesnt seem to be o

Re: [gentoo-user] "/usr/bin/[" and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the > process, ran across the fact that "equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7" > shows a file included called "/usr/bin/[" - thats right, left square > bracket! > > Is th

Re: [gentoo-user] "/usr/bin/[" and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread Manuel McLure
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the > process, ran across the fact that "equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7" > shows a file included called "/usr/bin/[" - thats right, left square > bracket! > > Is th

Re: [gentoo-user] "/usr/bin/[" and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread meino . cramer
William Kenworthy [11-10-12 07:40]: > I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the > process, ran across the fact that "equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7" > shows a file included called "/usr/bin/[" - thats right, left square > bracket! > > Is that a bug or if real, w

Re: [gentoo-user] "/usr/bin/[" and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 07:45 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > William Kenworthy [11-10-12 07:40]: > > I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the > > process, ran across the fact that "equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7" > > shows a file included called "/usr/bin/["