Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: > Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > [...] > > > 2. when devs commit to ~arch, they tend to run ~arch on their test boxes. > > Issues are easy to spot and get fixed quickly. If you have a mixture of > > the two, then you have a combination that

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 09:09 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: > > Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > > > So, in the rare case of a user who can discipline himself to say within the > limits you describe, your advice is fine. But that's a theore

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-13 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-12 12:23 PM, Dale wrote: +1 I been using the latest portage for a long time too. I don't recall any problems with it and the new features sure do help. If you keyword portage, you need to do the same for its friends. Mainly gentoolkit and eix. They seem to go

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 April 2010 16:55:38 Paul Hartman wrote: > I've been using portage unmasked for a very long time and don't > remember having any portage-related problems. I'm sure there must be > some (or else why is it still RC?) but for me the new features are > worth the potential risk of using les

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 April 2010 17:17:52 Florian Philipp wrote: > Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. How do you take backups? -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to use ndiswrapper caused a hell of trouble: no suspend and wl doesn't autoload

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 April 2010 23:07:56 Neil Bothwick wrote: > In 1750 Issac Newton became discouraged ... I should think so - he died in 1727. -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup

2010-04-13 Thread Alex Schuster
Peter Humphrey writes: > On Monday 12 April 2010 17:17:52 Florian Philipp wrote: > > Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. > > How do you take backups? I do my backups from the running system, not from a live-cd. I create an LVM snapshot of the partition, and backup with use rdiff-b

[gentoo-user] backups [was: Boot speedup]

2010-04-13 Thread David Relson
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:44:31 +0200 Alex Schuster wrote: > Peter Humphrey writes: > > > On Monday 12 April 2010 17:17:52 Florian Philipp wrote: > > > Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. > > > > How do you take backups? > > I do my backups from the running system, not from a live-cd

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions

2010-04-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 01:17:07PM +0100, Mick wrote > You probably want to look at wpa_supplicant (in particular man > wpa_gui), or any other network manager type of application would do > (wicd, network manager, wifi-radar) which allows you to enable/disable > access points for automatic connect

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions

2010-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:39:31 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > Thanks. that keeps things sane. Now let's start with simple stuff > first, manually connecting to an open access point at the public > library. Listed below are files /etc/conf.d/net, ~/bin/wi_open, and > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.open.

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:30 AM, William Kenworthy wrote: > On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 09:09 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: >> > Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> > >> >> So, in the rare case of a user who can discipline himself to say within the

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

2010-04-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dale wrote: > > On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at > startup: No space left on device." The main screen where I select files > shows there is space left. It shows about 1Mb or so left. > > I also have a much smaller slice for the backup. When I burn it, it

[gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?

2010-04-13 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 . Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already? Many thank for some info, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?

2010-04-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 > it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 . > Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already? no

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions

2010-04-13 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:39:31 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > Thanks. that keeps things sane. Now let's start with simple stuff > > first, manually connecting to an open access point at the public > > library. Listed below are files /etc/co

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-13 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 13 Apr, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 12 April 2010 16:55:38 Paul Hartman wrote: > >> I've been using portage unmasked for a very long time and don't >> remember having any portage-related problems. I'm sure there must be >> some (or else why is it still RC?) but for me the new features are

[gentoo-user] xine problem

2010-04-13 Thread James
Hello, Xine has worked for me in the past. It has been a few months since I used it. Now it give these popup error messages: - xine engine error There is no input plugin available to handle dvd:/ Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesn't exist The source can't be read. Maybe yo

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions

2010-04-13 Thread Mick
On 13 April 2010 15:44, Daniel da Veiga wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:39:31 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: >> >> >   Thanks. that keeps things sane.  Now let's start with simple stuff >> > first, manually connecting to an open access point at

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Notes about what I think happened here: > 1) I missed the message about running perl-cleaner so I had to do that. > 2) I had a gcc build that didn't allow the profile to get set so > emerge -1 gcc fixed that. > 3) After that I tried emerge -e @

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > OK, so I've been pushing forward and finally I'm emerge -e @world > clean. xfce still doesn't work right. It's in fact pretty unusable at > the moment as it has no menus at all, but it's only a backup > environment so I'm going to ignore that f

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Notes about what I think happened here: >> 1) I missed the message about running perl-cleaner so I had to do that. >> 2) I had a gcc build that didn't allow the profile to get set so >> e

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 13 April 2010 15:49:44 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 13 Apr, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > As far as I know, that's the only thing preventing release of v2, > > and I think it's been fixed anyway. > > No, I don't think so. > Just recently, I had to unmerge then emerge wxpython since > emerge

[gentoo-user] Re: xine problem

2010-04-13 Thread walt
On 04/13/2010 07:53 AM, James wrote: Hello, Xine has worked for me in the past. It has been a few months since I used it. Now it give these popup error messages: - xine engine error There is no input plugin available to handle dvd:/ Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesn't exist

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup

2010-04-13 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 13.04.2010 00:00, schrieb Alex Schuster: > Florian Philipp writes: > >> Am 12.04.2010 11:02, schrieb Hinko Kocevar: > >>> Can boot be sped up even more? >> >> The fastest way to boot is not to boot at all. Just use Suspend2Disk or >> SuspendToRam. >> >> Take a look at TuxOnIce and hibernate-sc

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

2010-04-13 Thread Dale
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale wrote: On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at startup: No space left on device." The main screen where I select files shows there is space left. It shows about 1Mb or so left. I also have a much smaller slice for the backup. W

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup

2010-04-13 Thread Ngoc Nguyen Bao
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 13.04.2010 00:00, schrieb Alex Schuster: >> Florian Philipp writes: >> >>> Am 12.04.2010 11:02, schrieb Hinko Kocevar: >> Can boot be sped up even more? >>> >>> The fastest way to boot is not to boot at all. Just use Suspend2Disk o

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: >One minor annoyance is that the task bar at the bottom is about 1/3 > black on the left. Resolution is 1920x1080 so I'd guess about the > first 800 pixels are painted the wrong color. The task bar still > works, it just doesn't look right. I think I have the same problem,

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions

2010-04-13 Thread Stroller
On 13 Apr 2010, at 12:39, Walter Dnes wrote: ... I plan to have multiple config files, to cover different situations. You can have multiple networks specified in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and in /etc/conf.d/net. I think you can just specify the various SSIDs / credentials in wpa_supplican

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >>    One minor annoyance is that the task bar at the bottom is about 1/3 >> black on the left. Resolution is 1920x1080 so I'd guess about the >> first 800 pixels are painted the wrong color. The task bar still >> works

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup

2010-04-13 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 13.04.2010 19:29, schrieb Ngoc Nguyen Bao: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Florian Philipp > wrote: >> Am 13.04.2010 00:00, schrieb Alex Schuster: >>> Florian Philipp writes: >>> Am 12.04.2010 11:02, schrieb Hinko Kocevar: >>> > Can boot be sped up even more? The fastest

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

2010-04-13 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale wrote: On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at startup: No space left on device." The main screen where I select files shows there is space left. It shows about 1Mb or so left. I also have a much smaller slice for the

[gentoo-user] Re: xine problem

2010-04-13 Thread James
walt gmail.com> writes: > > - xine engine error > Is your css useflag set? yes, globally in make.conf for xine-lib: Installed versions: 1.1.17(1)(12:04:26 04/12/10)(X a52 aac aalib alsa css dts esd flac gnome gtk imagemagick ipv6 jack libcaca mad mng modplug musepack nls opengl oss sdl th

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?

2010-04-13 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 04:13:40PM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 > it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 . > Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already? > > Many thank for some info, > Helmut. >

[gentoo-user] Good news for the HAL haters

2010-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
Saw this message from an emerge today: * Messages for package x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0: * Usage of hal is strongly discouraged. Please migrate to udev. * From next major release on the hal support will be fully disabled. * Both hal and udev flags are enabled. * Enabling only udev!

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?

2010-04-13 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 > > it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 . > > Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, a

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup

2010-04-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Peter Humphrey writes: > >> On Monday 12 April 2010 17:17:52 Florian Philipp wrote: >> > Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. >> >> How do you take backups? > > I do my backups from the running system, not from a live-cd. I creat

[gentoo-user] Re: Good news for the HAL haters

2010-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > Saw this message from an emerge today: > > * Messages for package x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0: > > * Usage of hal is strongly discouraged. Please migrate to udev. > * From next major release on the hal support will be fully disabled. > * Bo

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup

2010-04-13 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:56:09 +0200 schrieb Jarry : > On 12. 4. 2010 14:36, Hinko Kocevar wrote: > [SNIP] > Shift to baselayout2 was really simple and it works like charm. > Actually, I wonder why is baselayout2 still ~x86/~amd64? Seems > quite stable to me, never had any problem with it in the la

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?

2010-04-13 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Rudmer van Dijk wrote: > On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 > > > it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?

2010-04-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Rudmer van Dijk wrote: > On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 > > > it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup

2010-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:06:16 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > The deal is I cannot stop the VMs from doing their work so I need some > way of getting them backed up while they are live. Which VMware product are you using? Workstation can take snapshots of running VMs. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymoron

[gentoo-user] Re: Good news for the HAL haters

2010-04-13 Thread walt
On 04/13/2010 01:34 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: Saw this message from an emerge today: * Messages for package x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0: * Usage of hal is strongly discouraged. Please migrate to udev. * From next major release on the hal support will be fully disabled. * Both hal and udev

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions

2010-04-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 04:03:08PM +0100, Mick wrote > For PCs you don't typically need anything more than the default Gentoo > scripts, but for a laptop wicd, networkmanager and the like will do > exactly what you need with no perceptible overhead and the benefit of > notifications for when thing

[gentoo-user] vde_switch cannot create tap

2010-04-13 Thread Xi Shen
hi, i followed the instructions on http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/KVM_with_VDE to configure my system. the kvm and tun modules loaded fine. but when i run "vde_switch --numports 4 --hub --mod 777 --group users --tap tap0", it will not return until i press ctrl+d, and after that, the tap0 interface