Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 02 April 2015 18:19:47 Marc Joliet wrote: > % grep PORTAGE /etc/kernels/* > /etc/kernels/kernel-config-3.19.2-gentoo:CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_PORTAGE=y > /etc/kernels/kernel-config-3.19.3-gentoo:CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_PORTAGE=y # ls -l /etc/kernels /bin/ls: cannot access /etc/kernels: No such

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:13:38 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > > That's where I was thinking of. It's not there right now, are edits > > moderated? > I just hit Ctrl+F5 and it's visible for me. (I'm logged in to the wiki > though.) > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd#See_Also > > I just logged o

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 02 Apr 2015 10:48:13 +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey : > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 19:12:14 Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:29:15 +0100 > > > > schrieb Peter Humphrey : > > > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:53:15 Marc Joliet wrote: > > > > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:43:21 +0100 > >

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 19:12:14 Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:29:15 +0100 > > schrieb Peter Humphrey : > > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:53:15 Marc Joliet wrote: > > > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:43:21 +0100 > > [...] > > > > Apparently it's (partially) due to CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_PO

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > # If you have cgroups turned on in your kernel, this switch controls > > # whether or not a group for each controller is mounted under > > # /sys/fs/cgroup. > > [...] > > # Set

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/01/2015 09:26 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 08:19:18 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: >> I've added it to the "See Also" section at the end of the Systemd page. >> I didn't know where else to put it. > > That's where I was thinking of. It's not there right now, are edits > moderate

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:29:15 +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey : > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:53:15 Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:43:21 +0100 > > [...] > > Apparently it's (partially) due to CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_PORTAGE (not > > CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_INIT_SCRIPT as I originally thought

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 08:19:18 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > > Nice! Apart from the zap thing that Canek has already covered, I > > think it could be useful. Could you add a link to it to the main > > systemd page. > > I've added it to the "See Also" section at the end of the Systemd page. > I didn

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/01/2015 02:21 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Nice! Apart from the zap thing that Canek has already covered, I think it > could be useful. Could you add a link to it to the main systemd page. I've added it to the "See Also" section at the end of the Systemd page. I didn't know where else to put i

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/01/2015 02:21 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:53:39 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> Anyway, I've finally gotten around to putting together a short >> cheatsheet @ https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet . > > Nice! Apart from the zap thing that Canek has a

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > # If you have cgroups turned on in your kernel, this switch controls > # whether or not a group for each controller is mounted under > # /sys/fs/cgroup. > [...] > # Set this to YES if yu want all of the processes in a service's cgroup >

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 01.04.2015 um 11:22 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:57:33 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > > Btw, if you need a 'cheat sheet' for INIT the whole thing is broken > > > beyond

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:53:15 Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:43:21 +0100 > > schrieb Peter Humphrey : > > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 02:04:05 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > """ > > > # If you have cgroups turned on in your kernel, this switch controls > > > # whether or not a

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:57:33 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > Btw, if you need a 'cheat sheet' for INIT the whole thing is broken > > beyond repair. > > You don't *need* it, it's just a convenience when switching from one > syntax to

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:53:39 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > Anyway, I've finally gotten around to putting together a short > cheatsheet @ https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet . Nice! Apart from the zap thing that Canek has already covered, I think it could be useful. Could you a

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:57:33 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Btw, if you need a 'cheat sheet' for INIT the whole thing is broken > beyond repair. You don't *need* it, it's just a convenience when switching from one syntax to the other. The order of the switch doesn't matter, the notes would

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 01.04.2015 um 10:04 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Marc Joliet > wrote: > > > > Am Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:05:50 -0600 > > schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés >: > > > > [...] > > > With systemd you don't need this, since it ca

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:43:21 +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey : > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 02:04:05 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > """ > > # If you have cgroups turned on in your kernel, this switch controls > > # whether or not a group for each controller is mounted under > > # /sys/fs/cgroup. >

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 02:04:05 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > """ > # If you have cgroups turned on in your kernel, this switch controls > # whether or not a group for each controller is mounted under > # /sys/fs/cgroup. > [...] > # Set this to YES if yu want all of the processes in a service's

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:05:50 -0600 > schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés : > > [...] > > With systemd you don't need this, since it can track the real state of its > > services thanks to cgroups. And kill *really* kills all the processes > > associate

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:05:50 -0600 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés : [...] > With systemd you don't need this, since it can track the real state of its > services thanks to cgroups. And kill *really* kills all the processes > associated to a service, something that OpenRC, by design, cannot do. [...]

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/31/2015 07:05 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Thanks for doing this, I think it will help all the people switching to > systemd from OpenRC in Gentoo. > > However, I think the zap command is a little misleading, even with the > note stating that is no "exactly" the same. Duly noted, I've r

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mar 31, 2015 7:55 PM, "Daniel Frey" wrote: > > On 03/17/2015 10:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > The cheat sheets are useful for reference, but I'd strongly encourage > > anybody using systemd to get a decent understanding of the > > fundamentals. > > Oh, certainly - but going in completely blind

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/17/2015 10:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > The cheat sheets are useful for reference, but I'd strongly encourage > anybody using systemd to get a decent understanding of the > fundamentals. Oh, certainly - but going in completely blind and being stuck for 15 minutes trying to do a simple task s

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-17 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:20:45 -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman : > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > On 03/17/2015 06:56 AM, Bob Wya wrote: > >> I've not seen any that are OpenRC specific... But this one is pretty > >> decent for SysVInit vs. systemd... > >> http://linoxide.com/li

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 03/17/2015 06:56 AM, Bob Wya wrote: >> I've not seen any that are OpenRC specific... But this one is pretty >> decent for SysVInit vs. systemd... >> http://linoxide.com/linux-command/systemd-vs-sysvinit-cheatsheet/ > > Yeah I found one simi

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-17 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/17/2015 06:56 AM, Bob Wya wrote: > I've not seen any that are OpenRC specific... But this one is pretty > decent for SysVInit vs. systemd... > http://linoxide.com/linux-command/systemd-vs-sysvinit-cheatsheet/ Yeah I found one similar to that, but located elsewhere. Maybe if I have some time

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-17 Thread Bob Wya
I've not seen any that are OpenRC specific... But this one is pretty decent for SysVInit vs. systemd... http://linoxide.com/linux-command/systemd-vs-sysvinit-cheatsheet/ On 17 March 2015 at 01:58, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > > > Hey al

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > Hey all, > > I've now converted two systems to systemd and so far haven't had too > much issues with systemd itself, other than me constantly forgetting > commands. > > Is there a nice table or chart somewhere that lists openrc commands with