Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >> >> I'm seriously wondering if there might not be something broken with >> the .jpeg files I'm spitting out. That laptop (saffron) is in the >> middle of an overdue emerge --update --dee

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-21 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > I'm seriously wondering if there might not be something broken with > the .jpeg files I'm spitting out. That laptop (saffron) is in the > middle of an overdue emerge --update --deep --newuse @world, though. > (And I saw it was complaining ab

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Michael Mol wrote: [snip] > I'm seriously wondering if there might not be something broken with > the .jpeg files I'm spitting out. That laptop (saffron) is in the > middle of an overdue emerge --update --deep --newuse @world, though. > (And I saw it was complai

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Stroller wrote: > > On 21 May 2012, at 02:06, Michael Mol wrote: >> ... >>> And the final stitch is here: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2030/brum3068brum30702.jpg >>> >>> All Firefox gives me is a black window : can you check ? >> >> Works on my sys

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-21 Thread Stroller
On 21 May 2012, at 02:06, Michael Mol wrote: > ... >> >>> And the final stitch is here: >>> http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2030/brum3068brum30702.jpg >> >> All Firefox gives me is a black window : can you check ? > > Works on my system. It comes up all-black in geeqie, though; I had to > lo

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-20 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 120520 Michael Mol wrote: >> as Philip later remarked, it turns out the lens was likely a 75mm prime > > The picture of the camera looks exactly what I remember, > tho' there might have been different models with different lenses. > It was a ve

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-20 Thread Philip Webb
120520 Michael Mol wrote: > as Philip later remarked, it turns out the lens was likely a 75mm prime The picture of the camera looks exactly what I remember, tho' there might have been different models with different lenses. It was a very good camera for its time. > The leftmost portion will never

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-20 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Stroller wrote: > > On 19 May 2012, at 20:28, Michael Mol wrote: >> … >> Worse, if the photographer was not using a prime lens[1], and was >> instead using a lens with variable zoom, you can't easily know what >> the real focal length was, as this will change depe

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-19 Thread Philip Webb
120520 Stroller wrote: > Zoom lenses were much less common even 2 or 3 decades ago. > For a long time, a 50mm prime was the common kit lens, > rather than the 18-105mm zoom which is sold today. > This was because on a camera using 35mm film, a 50mm focal length > gives a field of view very close to

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-19 Thread Philip Webb
120519 Michael Mol wrote: > According to Wikipedia, the Zeiss Ikon is 35mm SLR, > but that's about all you're going to get from it. No ! -- as Stroller pointed out, zoom lenses were invented only c 1950. My stepfather's model was made in Germany c 1939 & had been mentioned to him as a good buy by

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-19 Thread Stroller
On 19 May 2012, at 20:28, Michael Mol wrote: > … > Worse, if the photographer was not using a prime lens[1], and was > instead using a lens with variable zoom, you can't easily know what > the real focal length was, as this will change depending on how far > the photographer has zoomed in. Thro

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > 120518 Michael Mol wrote: >> Remarkably simple. Probably because I was only stitching two photos. > > -- details snipped -- > > Thanks : that gives me a 3rd method to pursue. > > NB in your result there are some badly curved lines : > bottom r

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-18 Thread Philip Webb
120518 Michael Mol wrote: > Remarkably simple. Probably because I was only stitching two photos. -- details snipped -- Thanks : that gives me a 3rd method to pursue. NB in your result there are some badly curved lines : bottom right, the front of the tram is badly distorted ; centre top, the sid

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > 120516 Michael Mol wrote: >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Philip Webb wrote: >>> I tried Hugin, but got nowhere.  I set  6  points on each picture, >>> which are  2  overlapping parts of a single original negative, >>> but all it offered

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-17 Thread Philip Webb
120517 Pandu Poluan wrote: > On May 17, 2012 1:07 PM, "Stroller" wrote: >> On 17 May 2012, at 05:34, Philip Webb wrote: >>> Please do (smile) & send me the result off-list >>> with the steps you followed to get there. >> I have been really enjoying following this thread. >> I felt sure from previo

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On May 17, 2012 1:07 PM, "Stroller" wrote: > > > On 17 May 2012, at 05:34, Philip Webb wrote: > > ... > > Please do (smile) & send me the result off-list > > with the steps you followed to get there. > > I have been really enjoying following this thread. > > I felt sure from previous reading on Hu

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-16 Thread Stroller
On 17 May 2012, at 05:34, Philip Webb wrote: > ... > Please do (smile) & send me the result off-list > with the steps you followed to get there. I have been really enjoying following this thread. I felt sure from previous reading on Hugin that it was the correct approach, but when I tried it m

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-16 Thread Philip Webb
120516 Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Philip Webb wrote: >> I tried Hugin, but got nowhere.  I set  6  points on each picture, >> which are  2  overlapping parts of a single original negative, >> but all it offered was a black screen; I did follow the on-line help. > Hugin

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-16 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > I tried Hugin, but got nowhere.  I set  6  points on each picture, > which are  2  overlapping parts of a single original negative, > but all it offered was a black screen; I did follow the on-line help. Hugin can be tricky, especially if you

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-16 Thread Philip Webb
120516 Urs Schutz wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2012 00:12:25 -0400 > Philip Webb wrote: >> I can't find out how to turn it into a rectangle. > Transform -> Unbend Image > Play with the vertical values, this is very easy, fast and > intuitive. With brum-3.jpg the best combination was: > vertical linear

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-16 Thread Urs Schutz
On Wed, 16 May 2012 00:12:25 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: > 120515 Philip Webb wrote: > > 120515 Urs Schutz wrote: > >> I just tried with fotoxx. > >> This is a semi-manual process, but I liked the > >> resulting image. > > I've installed Fotoxx & it does a very good job ! > > >> The joint is less

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-15 Thread Philip Webb
120515 Philip Webb wrote: > 120515 Urs Schutz wrote: >> I just tried with fotoxx. >> This is a semi-manual process, but I liked the resulting image. I've installed Fotoxx & it does a very good job ! >> The joint is less visible than on brum-2.jpg. There's no sign of it on my version : http://w

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-15 Thread Philip Webb
120515 Urs Schutz wrote: > I just tried with fotoxx. I hadn't heard of that one : there are so many pkgs in media/gfx that it's difficult to be sure I've checked all photo editors. > This is a semi-manual process, but I liked the resulting image. It c~b any more manual than Imagemagick (smile).

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-15 Thread Urs Schutz
On Mon, 14 May 2012 22:50:33 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: > I tried Hugin, but got nowhere. I set 6 points on each > picture, which are 2 overlapping parts of a single > original negative, but all it offered was a black screen; > I did follow the on-line help. > > Then I tried Imagemagick & got

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-14 Thread Philip Webb
I tried Hugin, but got nowhere. I set 6 points on each picture, which are 2 overlapping parts of a single original negative, but all it offered was a black screen; I did follow the on-line help. Then I tried Imagemagick & got a good result after a bit of fussing. The commands I used were c

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > 120511 Dale wrote: >> The biggest things about hugin, 1)  learning to use the thing >> 2) patience.  The more control points you get, the better it will turn out. >> Whatever you do, don't leave a control point that is not matched up. >> Talk a

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-12 Thread Philip Webb
120511 Dale wrote: > The biggest things about hugin, 1) learning to use the thing > 2) patience. The more control points you get, the better it will turn out. > Whatever you do, don't leave a control point that is not matched up. > Talk about a weird picture. It only takes one too. I was carefu

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-11 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote: > 120510 Dale wrote: >> Philip Webb wrote: >>> I have a lot of images scanned from old negatives of non-standard sizes, >>> which I had to split up into halves or quarters to process; >>> I was careful to use the same settings for each of the sub-parts. >>> Now I want to reassemb

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-11 Thread Philip Webb
120510 Dale wrote: > Philip Webb wrote: >> I have a lot of images scanned from old negatives of non-standard sizes, >> which I had to split up into halves or quarters to process; >> I was careful to use the same settings for each of the sub-parts. >> Now I want to reassemble them into the original

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-10 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote: > I have a lot of images scanned from old negatives of non-standard sizes, > which I had to split up into halves or quarters to process; > I was careful to use the same settings for each of the sub-parts. > Now I want to reassemble them into the original whole pictures. > > Ther

Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-10 Thread Alex Schuster
Philip Webb writes: > I have a lot of images scanned from old negatives of non-standard sizes, > which I had to split up into halves or quarters to process; > I was careful to use the same settings for each of the sub-parts. > Now I want to reassemble them into the original whole pictures. > > Th