Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-11-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 31 Oktober 2011, 17:21:23 schrieb Alex Schuster: > Michael Mol writes: > > My point is that the numbers aren't what mattered here. My point is > > that SAMSUNG sold me a shoddy product, replaced it with another > > instance of the the same shoddy product, wouldn't replace it again, > > an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Michael Mol writes: > >> My point is that the numbers aren't what mattered here. My point is >> that SAMSUNG sold me a shoddy product, replaced it with another >> instance of the the same shoddy product, wouldn't replace it again, >> and nev

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-31 Thread Alex Schuster
Michael Mol writes: > My point is that the numbers aren't what mattered here. My point is > that SAMSUNG sold me a shoddy product, replaced it with another > instance of the the same shoddy product, wouldn't replace it again, > and never addressed a detailed technical report of a systemic problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-29 Thread daid kahl
Lots of HDD RPMs and company suggestions, but to the point... My two cents are: ESATA. I have multi TB external disks which I have physics data stored on and needs to be analyzed. USB might be as fast (in the best case), but it uses processor overhead. Not that a lot of machines support that ki

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Freitag 28 Oktober 2011, 08:53:40 schrieb Mark Knecht: >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Paul Hartman >> >> wrote: >> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> Amazon streams now but I haven't tried them yet.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag 28 Oktober 2011, 11:19:37 schrieb Michael Mol: > (oi, it's getting harder and harder to snip this thing properly) > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 16:00:09 schrieb Michael Mol: > >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag 28 Oktober 2011, 08:53:40 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Paul Hartman > > wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> Amazon streams now but I haven't tried them yet. (Watch out for 'One > >> Touch' and accidentally spending money...) >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Amazon streams now but I haven't tried them yet. (Watch out for 'One >> Touch' and accidentally spending money...) > > Amazon streaming works fine in Linux (I've tried it), it just uses t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Michael Mol
(oi, it's getting harder and harder to snip this thing properly) On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 16:00:09 schrieb Michael Mol: >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> wrote: >> > Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 15:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 16:00:09 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 15:17:45 schrieb Michael Mol: > >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > >> > >> wrote: > >> > Am Donnerstag 27 Ok

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Amazon streams now but I haven't tried them yet. (Watch out for 'One > Touch' and accidentally spending money...) Amazon streaming works fine in Linux (I've tried it), it just uses the plain old Adobe Flash plug-in.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> > I have to say this.  I worked at a computer place in the late 80's.  Back > then a 25Mhz CPU was fast as lightening.  Hard drives were maybe 100MBs. >  Memory, lucky if you have a 1 or 2Mbs.  Now look where we are.  I'm still >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Dale wrote: Florian Philipp wrote: Am 27.10.2011 19:30, schrieb Dale: I just wonder how much data they will be able to pack into a 3.5" drive tho. Hm. Surely they will run out of room at some point. I mean, the heads have got to have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Dale wrote: > Florian Philipp wrote: >> >> Am 27.10.2011 19:30, schrieb Dale: >> I just wonder how much data they will be able to pack into a 3.5" drive >> tho.  Hm.  Surely they will run out of room at some point.  I mean, >> the heads have got to have a littl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Dale
Florian Philipp wrote: Am 27.10.2011 19:30, schrieb Dale: I just wonder how much data they will be able to pack into a 3.5" drive tho. Hm. Surely they will run out of room at some point. I mean, the heads have got to have a little room to work with. Dale :-) :-) Well, then this story m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Bill Longman
On 10/27/2011 12:41 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > and I had 5 death stars failing on me. Darth Vader's death star failed, too.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > Just don't buy a SAMSUNG drive. I know, I know, everyone has their pet > "Don't Buy Hard Drives Made By $x" experience. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Dale wrote: > I seem to have good luck with WD and Maxtor myself. Seagate and Western D

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 15:17:45 schrieb Michael Mol: >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> >> wrote: >> > Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:51:47 schrieb Michael Mol: >> >> Just don't buy a SAMSUNG drive.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 15:17:45 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:51:47 schrieb Michael Mol: > >> Just don't buy a SAMSUNG drive. I know, I know, everyone has their pet > >> "Don't Buy Hard Drives

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:51:47 schrieb Michael Mol: >> Just don't buy a SAMSUNG drive. I know, I know, everyone has their pet >> "Don't Buy Hard Drives Made By $x" experience. >> >> Here's mine. >> >> I bought a 1TB SAMSUNG dr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:51:47 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dale wrote: > > Looks like some good info. I just need a GOOD sale and some extra money > > to spend. Maybe in a couple weeks or so. Hopefully. ;-) > > > > As for heat in my case, I have a Cooler Ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 27.10.2011 19:30, schrieb Dale: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:09:17 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: >>> On 10/27/2011 11:15 AM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm wanting to get a hard drive that is pretty good size. I'm looking for about 1 to 2TBs or so.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dale wrote: Looks like some good info. I just need a GOOD sale and some extra money to spend. Maybe in a couple weeks or so. Hopefully. ;-) As for heat in my case, I have a Cooler Master HAF-932 case. It has those huge 230mm fans. Heat

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dale wrote: > > > Looks like some good info.  I just need a GOOD sale and some extra money to > spend.  Maybe in a couple weeks or so.  Hopefully. ;-) > > As for heat in my case, I have a Cooler Master HAF-932 case.  It has those > huge 230mm fans.  Heat is not a p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:09:17 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 10/27/2011 11:15 AM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm wanting to get a hard drive that is pretty good size. I'm looking for about 1 to 2TBs or so. Thing is, a lot of them seem to be 5900 or even 5400 rpm dr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:09:17 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 10/27/2011 11:15 AM, Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > I'm wanting to get a hard drive that is pretty good size. I'm looking > > for about 1 to 2TBs or so. Thing is, a lot of them seem to be 5900 or > > even 5400 rpm drives. I re

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Oh, and one other thing; hdparm is only meant to get you the continuous I/O > transfer rate.  It's an awful benchmark for anything else, like what happens > if a file is fragmented or how fast it can copy/write data spread around the > di