On 12.03.2013 22:09, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Am 12.03.2013 12:51, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff:
The starting point has to be someone identifying the problem.
When you come e.g. to a car service and say, 'my engine is not working
properly e.g. ignition fails or sort of', do you expect the mechan
Am 12.03.2013 12:51, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff:
> On 12.03.2013 14:44, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:30:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
not "has to be easy", but definitely, with such purpose.
Do you disagree? Perhaps you reckon that the whole purpose of
computing i
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:51:23 +0400, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
> > On the other hand, if you file bug report with a patch to the ebuild
> > that checks the running kernel version and outputs an elog message of
> > "you might want to try the in-kernel drivers". They may simply say
> > "thank you".
>
On 12/03/2013 14:13, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
> On 12.03.2013 15:51, Dale wrote:
>> You may want to know, Volker is quite known for being "harsh" to use
>> your word. Most of us here, just ignore it.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-) :-)
>
> :-)
>
> On 12.03.2013 15:51, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> So don't overt
On 12.03.2013 15:51, Dale wrote:
You may want to know, Volker is quite known for being "harsh" to use
your word. Most of us here, just ignore it.
Dale
:-) :-)
:-)
On 12.03.2013 15:51, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> So don't overthink what happens around here. The reality is more like
this:
> use
On 12/03/2013 13:35, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
>> I don't see why you are getting so upset. The OP asked a question, he
>> got an answer. He seems OK with it, so why are you getting offended on
>> his behalf?
>
> In no way. I don't know if it is my English that sounds to you so
> differently from wh
On 12.03.2013 14:44, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:30:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
not "has to be easy", but definitely, with such purpose.
Do you disagree? Perhaps you reckon that the whole purpose of
computing is to make life harder? :)
You know, this general topic rears it'
Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
>
> I only have to repeat that I thought the words said to the OP a little
> harsh and wanted to defend him because everyone once gets into such a
> situation for the first time, and experience is what had been needed
> most when you hadn't it :) so that he wouldn't take it
On 12.03.2013 14:30, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 12/03/2013 12:01, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
Following your logic, if there's even one tool to make life easier
everything has to be absolutely easy. So we should now utilize fancy
wizards? Once again, that's following your logic.
not "has to be easy
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:30:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > not "has to be easy", but definitely, with such purpose.
> > Do you disagree? Perhaps you reckon that the whole purpose of
> > computing is to make life harder? :)
>
> You know, this general topic rears it's head about every six month
Am 12.03.2013 11:01, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff:
On 12.03.2013 12:46, Alexander Schwarz wrote:
Am 12.03.2013 08:33, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff:
Again, following your logic, why not just let the user himself
./configure && make && make install as in old days? What is portage
for?
Following your l
On 12/03/2013 12:01, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
>> Following your logic, if there's even one tool to make life easier
>> everything has to be absolutely easy. So we should now utilize fancy
>> wizards? Once again, that's following your logic.
>
> not "has to be easy", but definitely, with such purpo
On 12.03.2013 12:46, Alexander Schwarz wrote:
Am 12.03.2013 08:33, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff:
Again, following your logic, why not just let the user himself
./configure && make && make install as in old days? What is portage
for?
Following your logic, if there's even one tool to make life easi
Am 12.03.2013 08:33, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff:
Again, following your logic, why not just let the user himself
./configure && make && make install as in old days? What is portage for?
Following your logic, if there's even one tool to make life easier
everything has to be absolutely easy. So w
On 11.03.2013 21:47, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Am 11.03.2013 14:00, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff:
[ quoting stripped ]
sorry for breaking in, but...
(to Volker Armin Hemmann)
1. If this driver is superfluous as you say, then why does it ever
exist in portage?
because it exists? gnome is ther
Am 11.03.2013 00:05, schrieb Daniel Wagener:
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:53:42 +0100
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
>> Am 10.03.2013 19:28, schrieb Daniel Wagener:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
>>>
>>> My workstation has an onboard Realtek Ethernet which only works
>>
Am 11.03.2013 14:00, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff:
> On 11.03.2013 03:05, Daniel Wagener wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:53:42 +0100
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>
>>> Am 10.03.2013 19:28, schrieb Daniel Wagener:
Hello,
I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
My worksta
On 11.03.2013 03:05, Daniel Wagener wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:53:42 +0100
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Am 10.03.2013 19:28, schrieb Daniel Wagener:
Hello,
I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
My workstation has an onboard Realtek Ethernet which only works
with the r8168 driver. Unf
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:53:42 +0100
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am 10.03.2013 19:28, schrieb Daniel Wagener:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
> >
> > My workstation has an onboard Realtek Ethernet which only works
> > with the r8168 driver. Unfortunately, this driver
Am 10.03.2013 19:28, schrieb Daniel Wagener:
> Hello,
>
> I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
>
> My workstation has an onboard Realtek Ethernet which only works with the
> r8168 driver.
> Unfortunately, this driver is not in the kernel, but available to be compiled
> as a kernel module. (
On 10/03/2013 20:28, Daniel Wagener wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
>
> My workstation has an onboard Realtek Ethernet which only works with the
> r8168 driver.
> Unfortunately, this driver is not in the kernel, but available to be compiled
> as a kernel module. (
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:49:02 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Daniel Wagener
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:36:55 -0600
> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Wagener
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I ra
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Daniel Wagener wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:36:55 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Wagener wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
>> >
>> > My workstation has an onboard Realtek
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:36:55 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Wagener wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
> >
> > My workstation has an onboard Realtek Ethernet which only works with the
> > r8168 driver.
> > Unfortunat
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Wagener wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
>
> My workstation has an onboard Realtek Ethernet which only works with the
> r8168 driver.
> Unfortunately, this driver is not in the kernel, but available to be compiled
> as a kern
Hello,
I ran into some trouble about an hour ago…
My workstation has an onboard Realtek Ethernet which only works with the r8168
driver.
Unfortunately, this driver is not in the kernel, but available to be compiled
as a kernel module. (I guess because of som patents)
That worked for quite some
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