Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-07 Thread Christoph Gysin
Fernando Meira wrote: which I understand because it is trying to use *vi* and I don't have it. If I'm not wrong, vi is not even in portage. So, is there a way to work around this, maybe using another editor to edit it? It's probably hardcoded in the code. Workaround: $ sudo ln -s nano /usr/b

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-05 Thread Luke Albers
On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 17:42 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > which I understand because it is trying to use *vi* and I don't have > it. If I'm not wrong, vi is not even in portage. > So, is there a way to work around this, maybe using another editor to > edit it? > emerge vim and it should make "v

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-05 Thread Fernando Meira
I have changed the mouse input (from PS2 to USB) and solved that weird mouse behaviour. The touchpad also works well. Strange that by PS2 gets so crazy. Well, since things become more stable (at least until now), I been learning how to work with e17. However, there's a small problem. When I try to

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-04 Thread Fernando Meira
Yes... that would maybe be good idea. I'm using now the touchpad instead of the mouse and, until now, no weird behaviours! Thanks. FernandoOn 8/4/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You should subscribe to the enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list and post this same message

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-04 Thread Luke Albers
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 18:26 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > Thanks anyway Luke! > > This looks like a crazy mouse behaviour... suddenly jumps to another > place and open the menu. > I think E17 never crashed (as I said before), but, in fact, what > happen (at least the last time) was that when the

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-04 Thread Fernando Meira
Thanks anyway Luke! This looks like a crazy mouse behaviour... suddenly jumps to another place and open the menu. I think E17 never crashed (as I said before), but, in fact, what happen (at least the last time) was that when the pointer jumped away, opened the menu and (because I was trying to mo

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-04 Thread Luke Albers
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 17:53 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > Ok, thanks Christoph. > So, from these, does it look like a bug, mouse bad-config or something > else? I doubt its a big, since I haven't had this happen. I have had e17 crash a few times, but not as often as it sounds like yours is. S

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-04 Thread Fernando Meira
Ok, thanks Christoph. I'm just trying E17 for the first time now, and the first impression is good. However, there a weird behaviour with the mouse. The mouse pointer disappears very frequently, crashing from time to time one application. xterm blew aways few minutes ago. In fact, this is the seco

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-04 Thread Christoph Gysin
Fernando Meira wrote: Also found other scripts to compile directly from cvs, without using portage. Can anyone tell me what the advantage of doing so? I'd suggest using portage since it allows you to uninstall, query information and doing other nice package managment stuff. Christoph, is the

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-04 Thread Christoph Gysin
Fernando Meira wrote: And in the E docs, there is this sentence: "Note that you should not mix -* and ~x86 ebuilds." So is it enough that I just change everything to -* and all packages will be upgraded, or will I need to unmerge every package before? Just keyword all packages -* and update

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-04 Thread Christoph Gysin
Fernando Meira wrote: Christoph, I can't find the screenshot I saw and made me think about moving to E, but this one is also good and has the panel (right under the IM app) I was talking about: http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~uriel/images/screen.jpg In the browser window you can see

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-04 Thread Fernando Meira
On 8/3/05, Justin Patrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying e17 as well after reading this ;-) Great Justin :) I suggest emerging edge before epsilon or you'll get compile errors. I just finish compiling it and I got no problems (at least that I'm aware of)... so it also works with this sequenc

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Justin Patrin
On 8/3/05, Fernando Meira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, i agree. > I just hope that's enough. > I'll emerge e17 now :D > I'll bring news.. soon.. > I'm trying e17 as well after reading this ;-) I suggest emerging edge before epsilon or you'll get compile errors. > > > On 8/3/05, Luke

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
yes, i agree. I just hope that's enough. I'll emerge e17 now :D I'll bring news.. soon.. Cheers, Fernando.On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 18:55 +, Fernando Meira wrote:> On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I don't really understan

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 18:55 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't really understand the problem. > > I use ~x86 for everything. What I pasted in my previous email > works > fine for me. I don

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't really understand the problem.I use ~x86 for everything.  What I pasted in my previous email works fine for me.  I don't really know what engage is, but I tried to run itone time and I dont think it worked, I got some strange black block ont

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 17:28 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > Another doubt: > > For emerging engage I had to mask a few packages (from snapshot > instead of cvs): > x11-misc/engage ~x86 > x11-libs/ecore ~x86 > x11-libs/evas ~x86 > dev-libs/eet ~x86 > media-libs/edje ~x86 > dev-libs/embryo ~x86 > x11

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 16:56 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > I might be wrong, but isn't that a unnecessary step?? > Even though you don't have anything else in package.keywords, once you > specify there the packages to unmask, you don't need to do it again > when you want to update E, right? Just r

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 16:51 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > Thank you all for answering :) > > I'm getting the feeling that I should go for e17 after what I've been > seeing and reading!!! (though a few guys returned back to e16 > afterwards). > > Luke, you been using it for 3 months and never use

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
Another doubt: For emerging engage I had to mask a few packages (from snapshot instead of cvs): x11-misc/engage ~x86 x11-libs/ecore ~x86 x11-libs/evas ~x86 dev-libs/eet ~x86 media-libs/edje ~x86 dev-libs/embryo ~x86 x11-libs/ewl ~x86 media-libs/etox ~x86 app-misc/examine ~x86 x11-libs/esmart ~x86

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
I might be wrong, but isn't that a unnecessary step?? Even though you don't have anything else in package.keywords, once you specify there the packages to unmask, you don't need to do it again when you want to update E, right? Just running the 'emerge (...)' would suffice... FernandoOn 8/3/05, Lu

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
Thank you all for answering :) I'm getting the feeling that I should go for e17 after what I've been seeing and reading!!! (though a few guys returned back to e16 afterwards). Luke, you been using it for 3 months and never used e16. So, would you said that I should start my experience with enligh

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 17:59 +0200, Christoph Gysin wrote: ... > I'd suggest running this once: > ... > and then the following each time you want to update: > > emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo > edje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Christoph Gysin
Luke Albers wrote: I run this every day to recompile from CVS. Somtimes it compiles, sometimes it doesnt, but I dont really care. I don't think it is difficult to use at all, you will rarely need to change much from the command line. The only thing that can be a bitch is making all the eapp fi

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:20 -0400, fire-eyes wrote: > On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 14:45 +0200, Fernando Meira wrote: > > How stable is e17? The new stuff worth it? Any comments about this? > > E17 is still beta or maybe even just alpha code. It is not stable by a > long shot, and I find it rather diffic

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Christoph Gysin
Fernando Meira wrote: I have recently emerged e16 for trial (I always used KDE) and I haven't explored it too much yet, but I'm quite happy with it. I'll be looking for a pretty desktop theme (which I haven't found yet) and arrange it to my way. Welcome to enlightenment! However, I been read

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread fire-eyes
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 14:45 +0200, Fernando Meira wrote: > How stable is e17? The new stuff worth it? Any comments about this? E17 is still beta or maybe even just alpha code. It is not stable by a long shot, and I find it rather difficult to use, when everything compiles (it often doesn't). For

Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 14:45 +0200, Fernando Meira wrote: > Hi, > > I have recently emerged e16 for trial (I always used KDE) and I > haven't explored it too much yet, but I'm quite happy with it. I'll be > looking for a pretty desktop theme (which I haven't found yet) and > arrange it to my way. >

[gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
Hi, I have recently emerged e16 for trial (I always used KDE) and I haven't explored it too much yet, but I'm quite happy with it. I'll be looking for a pretty desktop theme (which I haven't found yet) and arrange it to my way. However, I been reading in forums about e17, which is still (who knows