Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:33:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I'm an old fart, set in my ways, I found something long ago that works > for me with unsufficient pain to provoke a change. I clearly have a lower pain threshold than you :( > So I ain't changin' :-) Good thing it's an option then ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/06/2014 20:29, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:06:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as >>> you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package? >> >> Yes, exactly. For two reasons: >> >> 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:06:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as > > you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package? > > Yes, exactly. For two reasons: > > 1. In the vast majority of cases, there's somethin

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/06/2014 16:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I know about --keep-going, I don't like it much. > > What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as > you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor pac

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I know about --keep-going, I don't like it much. What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package? -- Neil Bothwick How is it that we put man

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/06/2014 12:36, thegeezer wrote: >> +1 to just letting portage work with world. >> > >> > What I have found useful when trying to do what Alan is attempting, is >> > to select a chunk of packages at a time (like say all of kde, then a >> > bunch of daemons). If I get a block, drop it and try t

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread thegeezer
On 06/09/2014 10:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 09/06/2014 21:15, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: >>> Hi, Gentoo! >>> >>> The latest episode of my months long update saga. >>> >> [snip] >>> This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date sho

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:04:30 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > You are making it artificially complicated by doing it piecewise. > > Whenever you try to update only part of your tree, emerge cannot do > > changes anywhere else, which means that other stuff can block your > > intended changes. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi Alan, first of all, which portage version are you using? Even if you are otherwise always running a stable system, in this case it might be useful to update portage (only) to ~arch. The errors that you are seeing are in an area of the dependency resolver that people are actively working on

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Andreas. On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:15:48PM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > > Hi, Gentoo! > > The latest episode of my months long update saga. > [snip] > > This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/06/2014 21:15, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: >> Hi, Gentoo! >> >> The latest episode of my months long update saga. >> > [snip] >> >> This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this >> difficult. > > You are making it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > Hi, Gentoo! > > The latest episode of my months long update saga. > [snip] > > This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this > difficult. You are making it artificially complicated by doing it piecewise. Whenever y

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:28:03 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > emerge -p --color y util-linux | less -F > > , and get the following on my screen: > > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2 [2.22.2] > USE="bash-completion%* pam%* python%* -caps% -cytune% -fdformat% > -tty-helpers%" PY

[gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo! The latest episode of my months long update saga. I do emerge -p --color y util-linux | less -F , and get the following on my screen: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2 [2.22.2] USE="bash-completion%* pam%* python%* -caps% -cytune% -fdformat% -tty-helpers%" PY