Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-07 Thread Michael Mol
On 05/07/2013 10:49 AM, Stroller wrote: > > On 6 May 2013, at 21:07, Randolph Maaßen wrote: > >> - When a file is deleted the file system marks the block device >> sectors as free and sends the TRIM command to the SSD and the SSD >> really frees the underlying cell / breaks the cell - section all

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/05/2013 16:49, Stroller wrote: > > On 6 May 2013, at 21:07, Randolph Maaßen wrote: > >> - When a file is deleted the file system marks the block device >> sectors as free and sends the TRIM command to the SSD and the SSD >> really frees the underlying cell / breaks the cell - section alloca

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-07 Thread Stroller
On 6 May 2013, at 21:07, Randolph Maaßen wrote: > - When a file is deleted the file system marks the block device sectors as > free and sends the TRIM command to the SSD and the SSD really frees the > underlying cell / breaks the cell - section allocation. So if I'm writing a new filesystem, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-06 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/5/6 Alan McKinnon > On 06/05/2013 20:36, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > > On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:34:20PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> emm - no. Wear leveling does not need any spare blocks. A lot of drives > >> do have spare blocks, but those are never the same size of the or

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/05/2013 20:36, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:34:20PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> emm - no. Wear leveling does not need any spare blocks. A lot of drives >> do have spare blocks, but those are never the same size of the original >> size (at least not on d

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-06 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:34:20PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > emm - no. Wear leveling does not need any spare blocks. A lot of drives > do have spare blocks, but those are never the same size of the original > size (at least not on drives you can buy for a sensible amount of > money). Mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 06.05.2013 13:00, schrieb Hinnerk van Bruinehsen: > On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:50:52AM +0100, Stroller wrote: >> On 5 May 2013, at 17:16, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: >>> ... The data on a SSD is not >>> necessarily stored linar so it's not said that a new partition is using >>> the same memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-06 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Randolph Maaßen wrote: > I'm so damn lucky > > I dd'ed the SSD onto an external drive and worked at first on the image with > qemu. A simple recreation of the partition brought the system back to live > on the image. I tried the same on the real machine and Gentoo w

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-06 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:50:52AM +0100, Stroller wrote: > > On 5 May 2013, at 17:16, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > > ... The data on a SSD is not > > necessarily stored linar so it's not said that a new partition is using > > the same memory cells as the old one. > > … > > For a HDD I'd advis

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Stroller
On 5 May 2013, at 17:16, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > ... The data on a SSD is not > necessarily stored linar so it's not said that a new partition is using > the same memory cells as the old one. > … > For a HDD I'd advise to create a copy > using dd but from my understanding of SSD technolog

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Dale
Gregory Shearman wrote: > In linux.gentoo.user, Dale wrote: >> Randolph Maaßen wrote: >>> I'm so damn lucky >>> >>> I dd'ed the SSD onto an external drive and worked at first on the >>> image with qemu. A simple recreation of the partition brought the >>> system back to live on the image. I tried t

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, Dale wrote: > Randolph Maaßen wrote: >> >> I'm so damn lucky >> >> I dd'ed the SSD onto an external drive and worked at first on the >> image with qemu. A simple recreation of the partition brought the >> system back to live on the image. I tried the same on the real machine >

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Dale
Randolph Maaßen wrote: > > > I'm so damn lucky > > I dd'ed the SSD onto an external drive and worked at first on the > image with qemu. A simple recreation of the partition brought the > system back to live on the image. I tried the same on the real machine > and Gentoo works again. > > > -- > Mit

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/5/5 Randolph Maaßen > 2013/5/5 Hinnerk van Bruinehsen > >> On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 02:44:11PM +, Randolph Maaßen wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have a SSD in my laptop and I am running Win7 and Gentoo in Parralel. >> for >> > some purpose I needed several Partitions so my base system was l

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/5/5 Hinnerk van Bruinehsen > On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 02:44:11PM +, Randolph Maaßen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a SSD in my laptop and I am running Win7 and Gentoo in Parralel. > for > > some purpose I needed several Partitions so my base system was lying on > > sda10, on an LVM-PV. Tod

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 02:44:11PM +, Randolph Maaßen wrote: > Hi, > > I have a SSD in my laptop and I am running Win7 and Gentoo in Parralel. for > some purpose I needed several Partitions so my base system was lying on > sda10, on an LVM-PV. Today my Windows refused to start and during recov

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 05.05.2013 16:44, schrieb Randolph Maaßen: > Hi, > > I have a SSD in my laptop and I am running Win7 and Gentoo in > Parralel. for some purpose I needed several Partitions so my base > system was lying on sda10, on an LVM-PV. Today my Windows refused to > start and during recovery its diskpart m

Re: [gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/05/2013 16:44, Randolph Maaßen wrote: > Hi, > > I have a SSD in my laptop and I am running Win7 and Gentoo in Parralel. > for some purpose I needed several Partitions so my base system was lying > on sda10, on an LVM-PV. Today my Windows refused to start and during > recovery its diskpart mu

[gentoo-user] Recover on SSD

2013-05-05 Thread Randolph Maaßen
Hi, I have a SSD in my laptop and I am running Win7 and Gentoo in Parralel. for some purpose I needed several Partitions so my base system was lying on sda10, on an LVM-PV. Today my Windows refused to start and during recovery its diskpart must have deleted the information about the 10th partition