On 25/04/2022 14:36, dhk wrote:
After reinstalling Gentoo with a new liveusb, my system still looks
similar to the way it was before. I started with the existing partition
schema and wiped everything and performed a separate independent
install. I am still not sure why the /dev/dm-1 block dev
Having /dev/dm-1 mounted on /usr would not be an issue if it was
supposed to be that way; however, nothing in the handbook or anything
else I have read says that is correct. In addition, every other system
I have setup or used always had /usr as the mount point in the fstab.
My primary questi
On 07/04/2022 05:00, John Covici wrote:
Are you using systemd or openrc? What are you using for your initrd,
dracut or something else? I also wonder if dm1 is the same thing as
your/dev/mapper/... by another name -- check where the link points
to.
If it isn't, then there's something wrong. Yo
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 19:38:16 -0400,
dhk wrote:
>
> So it sounds like /usr being under /dev/dm-1 instead of
> /dev/mapper does not look right.
>
> The UUID was tried in the fstab and the same results occurred,
> same as with LABEL and mount points.
>
> Since /usr is mounted temporarily at boot it
So it sounds like /usr being under /dev/dm-1 instead of /dev/mapper does
not look right.
The UUID was tried in the fstab and the same results occurred, same as
with LABEL and mount points.
Since /usr is mounted temporarily at boot it almost looks as if there is
something wrong with the way t
Am 16.05.2014 13:06, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> LVM is an excellent solution for what it was designed to do, which is to
> deal with stuff like this:
>
> Oops. I misjudged how big /var/log needed to be and now I need to add
> 50G to that partition. But it's sda6 and I have up to sda8. Argggh!
>
On Thu, Jan 10 2013, Sascha Cunz wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013, 13:52:58 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>> Am 10.01.2013 12:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>> > Does anyone else see boot problems as well?
>> >
>> > I re-configured my kernel and rebooted ... system stops/waits at
>> > "
Am 10.01.2013 22:31, schrieb Sascha Cunz:
> After an `emerge -1 lvm2` my systems were booting again, without downgrading
> udev.
Yep, I confirm this.
Anything else to recompile maybe?
thx, Stefan
Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013, 13:52:58 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Am 10.01.2013 12:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> > Does anyone else see boot problems as well?
> >
> > I re-configured my kernel and rebooted ... system stops/waits at
> > "Setting up the Logical Volume Manager".
> >
> >
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451266
udev = crap
On 01/10/2013 01:52 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 10.01.2013 12:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>>
>> Does anyone else see boot problems as well?
>>
>> I re-configured my kernel and rebooted ... system stops/waits at
>> "Setting
Am 10.01.2013 12:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
> Does anyone else see boot problems as well?
>
> I re-configured my kernel and rebooted ... system stops/waits at
> "Setting up the Logical Volume Manager".
>
> OK, turned off box and chose an older kernel to get things running
> again, but i
Mike Edenfield wrote:
>> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
>
>> This has been one of my points too. I could go out and buy me a bluetooth
>> mouse/keyboard but I don't because it to complicates matters.
>
> I had a long reply to Walt that I (probably wisely) decided not to send, but
> the
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:39:44 +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> > Technically, we are all using an initramfs as all 2.6/3 kernels mount
> > an initramfs when they load. If does not contain an init script, they
> > fall back to the legacy behaviour.
> >
> > See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystem
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 01:05:12 PM Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:41:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> > > That's why I build the initramfs into the kernel and not as a
> > > separate
> > > file. If I do something to break the initramfs I just boot the
> > > previous kernel knowing i
On Mar 15, 2012 9:50 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote:
>
>8 snip
>
> That's really not the reason for it. I mean, sure, I think the initial
> reactions were mostly grumpiness and misinformed outrage, but I don't
> think the contrariness really *baked* in until people got a twofer of
> "you're going t
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote:
>> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
>
>> This has been one of my points too. I could go out and buy me a bluetooth
>> mouse/keyboard but I don't because it to complicates matters.
>
> I had a long reply to Walt that I (probably wisel
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2012-03-15 9:05 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:41:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
>>
That's why I build the initramfs into the kernel and not as a separate
file. If I do something to break the initramfs I just boot
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:56:12 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> > Well, you built the kernel, so you should know.
>
> Well, since I basically just used a kernel .config that someone else
> originally set up, copying .config over and running make oldconfig when
> upgrading over the years, stumbling throu
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
> This has been one of my points too. I could go out and buy me a bluetooth
> mouse/keyboard but I don't because it to complicates matters.
I had a long reply to Walt that I (probably wisely) decided not to send, but
the basic point of it is also releva
On 2012-03-15 9:05 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:41:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
That's why I build the initramfs into the kernel and not as a separate
file. If I do something to break the initramfs I just boot the
previous kernel knowing it will still work.
Ok, time to show
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:41:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> > That's why I build the initramfs into the kernel and not as a separate
> > file. If I do something to break the initramfs I just boot the
> > previous kernel knowing it will still work.
>
> Ok, time to show my ignorance...
>
> How would
On 2012-03-15 5:13 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
That's why I build the initramfs into the kernel and not as a separate
file. If I do something to break the initramfs I just boot the previous
kernel knowing it will still work.
Ok, time to show my ignorance...
How would I know if I am using an init
On 2012-03-14 9:03 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
*YOUR WIFE'S LAPTOP* won't boot properly without /usr on /, or an
initramfs. OK, put /usr on /, or an initramfs*ON YOUR WIFE'S LAPTOP*.
I don't have a problem with that. What gets people really upset is the
dog-in-the-manger attitude of "if my complex
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:10:55 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > That's why I build the initramfs into the kernel and not as a separate
> > file. If I do something to break the initramfs I just boot the
> > previous kernel knowing it will still work.
> I tried that. It broke. It didn't boot not even once.
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:47:16 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I may end up with a init thingy, which I am currently using. Thing is,
>> the first time it breaks and I can't fix it, I'll install something
>> else.
>
> That's why I build the initramfs into the kernel and not as a sep
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:47:16 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I may end up with a init thingy, which I am currently using. Thing is,
> the first time it breaks and I can't fix it, I'll install something
> else.
That's why I build the initramfs into the kernel and not as a separate
file. If I do something to
Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:15:03PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote
>
>> Every machine I run Linux on is a huge desktop system running behemoth
>> software (Eclipse, GNOME, Chromium, LibreOffice, etc.).
>
> I have Abiword, Gimp, Gnumeric, Firefox, etc, running just fine, thank
>
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:15:03PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote
> Every machine I run Linux on is a huge desktop system running behemoth
> software (Eclipse, GNOME, Chromium, LibreOffice, etc.).
I have Abiword, Gimp, Gnumeric, Firefox, etc, running just fine, thank
you, on ICEWM.
> He seems to
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:28 PM
> This email [1] (and the correction email right afterwards) should give some
> much-needed perspective on
> why we're driving full-speed toward an overturned manure truck (which some of
> us, e.g., Walter a
On Mar 14, 2012 11:19 PM, "Mike Edenfield" wrote:
>
> > From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:14 AM
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad tho
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:14 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
>
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
>
On Mar 14, 2012 9:45 PM, "Alan Mackenzie" wrote:
>
> Hi, Walter.
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:09:46AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
>
> > > I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may
replace
> > > udev then the udev dev c
Hi, Walter.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:09:46AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
> > I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may replace
> > udev then the udev dev can screw up his own stuff on not bother other
> > distros. I'm
Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
>
>> I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may replace
>> udev then the udev dev can screw up his own stuff on not bother other
>> distros. I'm giving mdev some thought here. I want /usr on LVM which
On 2012-03-13 08:13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> I've also thought about this and I also want to ask why?
Hm... me too? :-)
> I stopped using a separate /usr on my workstations a long time ago when
> I realized it was pointless. The days of 5M hard disks when the entire
Ok, you realized it was point
On Mar 13, 2012 10:39 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:53:29 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> > As Alan said in other thread, it can be "fixed" (if you think is not
> > right) for some very specific cases. Alan mentioned servers, really
> > simple desktops with simple h
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:53:29 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> As Alan said in other thread, it can be "fixed" (if you think is not
> right) for some very specific cases. Alan mentioned servers, really
> simple desktops with simple hotplug devices, and embedded systems. For
> mdev to "fix" the s
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:38:26 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> Of course, for a normal desktop user, a separate /usr is basically
> useless.
If you need to encrypt /etc but don't want the overhead of encrypting
everything is /usr, which is basically publicly available files anyway,
separating /
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
>
>> I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may replace
>> udev then the udev dev can screw up his own stuff on not bother other
>> distros. I'm giving mdev some though
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
> I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may replace
> udev then the udev dev can screw up his own stuff on not bother other
> distros. I'm giving mdev some thought here. I want /usr on LVM which
> means it has to be sepa
On Mar 13, 2012 2:41 PM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon"
wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
> >> Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >>
> >> > > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initi
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> On Mar 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
>> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>>
>> > > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initialize devices without
>> > > the software, installed in /usr, which is re
On Mar 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> > > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initialize devices without
> > > the software, installed in /usr, which is required by those devices
> > > is a configuration that causes pro
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
Pandu Poluan wrote:
> > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initialize devices without
> > the software, installed in /usr, which is required by those devices
> > is a configuration that causes problems in many real-world,
> > practical situations.
> >
> > Th
On Mar 13, 2012 9:05 AM, "Mike Edenfield" wrote:
>
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:23 PM
>
> > I like that quote. I may not be dev material but I know this /usr mess
> > is not right. The only reason it is happening is because of one or two
> > distr
From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:23 PM
> I like that quote. I may not be dev material but I know this /usr mess
> is not right. The only reason it is happening is because of one or two
> distros that push it to make it easier for themselves.
If that's ho
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Dale wrote:
> Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On March 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM Michael Mol wrote:
>>
>>> Don't forget you're using Gentoo; you're implicitly not very far
>>> removed from the skill levels of the developers themselves.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> :wq
>>>
>>
>
Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote:
>
>
>
> On March 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM Michael Mol wrote:
>
>> Don't forget you're using Gentoo; you're implicitly not very far
>> removed from the skill levels of the developers themselves.
>>
>>
>> --
>> :wq
>>
>
> Maybe you're not, but it only takes me a few minutes be
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:39:26 -0400 (EDT)
"Bruce Hill, Jr." wrote:
>
>
>
> On March 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM Michael Mol wrote:
>
> > Don't forget you're using Gentoo; you're implicitly not very far
> > removed from the skill levels of the developers themselves.
> >
> >
> > --
> > :wq
> >
>
> May
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
wrote:
>
>
>
> On March 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM Michael Mol wrote:
>
>> Don't forget you're using Gentoo; you're implicitly not very far
>> removed from the skill levels of the developers themselves.
>>
>>
>> --
>> :wq
>>
>
> Maybe you're not, but it o
On Monday 12 Mar 2012 18:39:26 Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote:
> On March 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM Michael Mol wrote:
> > Don't forget you're using Gentoo; you're implicitly not very far
> > removed from the skill levels of the developers themselves.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > :wq
>
> Maybe you're not, but it o
On March 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM Michael Mol wrote:
> Don't forget you're using Gentoo; you're implicitly not very far
> removed from the skill levels of the developers themselves.
>
>
> --
> :wq
>
Maybe you're not, but it only takes me a few minutes being around chithead
and NeddySeagoon for me
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Jorge Martínez López wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 2012/3/11 walt :
>> On 03/11/2012 05:16 AM, Jorge Martínez López wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>
>> Hi Jorge.
>>
>>> I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM
>>
>> I'm just curious why you use a separate /usr, and why you are
>
Hi!
2012/3/11 walt :
> On 03/11/2012 05:16 AM, Jorge Martínez López wrote:
>> Hi!
>
> Hi Jorge.
>
>> I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM
>
> I'm just curious why you use a separate /usr, and why you are
> willing to struggle to keep it that way. Several people have
> posted opi
On 03/11/2012 05:16 AM, Jorge Martínez López wrote:
> Hi!
Hi Jorge.
> I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM
I'm just curious why you use a separate /usr, and why you are
willing to struggle to keep it that way. Several people have
posted opinions here in recent months, but I do
Am 16.12.2011 04:05, schrieb Jens Müller:
resize2fs also supports shrinking ext3 partitions, see
http://linux.die.net/man/8/resize2fs
Sorry about that one - yes, the fs must be unmounted to do this.
- Jens
Am 16.12.2011 03:18, schrieb Allan Gottlieb:
Questions
1. Apparently 2.6 (hence 3.x) kernels can expand mounted file systems
(/var is mounted as ext3).
Since I can't unmount /var because it is in use, I guess that, if I
every need to shrink /var, I would need to boot off a CD.
Dale gmail.com> writes:
> If you know how to do that, then that works. Right now, I have no
> experience with LVM. All I know is what I have read which is about as
> clear as mud.
Yes, I agree with you Dale.
The docs on LVM raid and many related issues are
in poor shape, confusing and miss
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> It' one of those things[1] that you put off using because it looks
> complicated. then you get round to trying it and wish you'd done so much
> earlier.
>
> [1] Screen falls into this category too.
I can confirm about screen, I use it everywhere now. But I've yet to try
LVM
Jim Burwell wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>
>> Philip Webb wrote:
>>
>>> 071008 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>
>>>
This question "Is LVM a good idea?" keeps cropping up on mailing lists.
I find this a bit strange as I find huge benefits
and have yet to find a valid downside for ge
Dale wrote:
> Philip Webb wrote:
>> 071008 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>>> This question "Is LVM a good idea?" keeps cropping up on mailing lists.
>>> I find this a bit strange as I find huge benefits
>>> and have yet to find a valid downside for general use.
>>>
>>
>> If you haven't used it, i
Philip Webb wrote:
> 071008 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> This question "Is LVM a good idea?" keeps cropping up on mailing lists.
>> I find this a bit strange as I find huge benefits
>> and have yet to find a valid downside for general use.
>>
>
> If you haven't used it, it looks like a questio
Hello Philip Webb,
> If you haven't used it, it looks like a questionable extra complexity,
> which could bite your fingers unexpectedly for little real gain.
It' one of those things[1] that you put off using because it looks
complicated. then you get round to trying it and wish you'd done so muc
071008 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> This question "Is LVM a good idea?" keeps cropping up on mailing lists.
> I find this a bit strange as I find huge benefits
> and have yet to find a valid downside for general use.
If you haven't used it, it looks like a questionable extra complexity,
which could bite
On Monday 08 October 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Extra benefits of LVM: You won't need this right now for your
> > simple desktop with one drive, but it's good to know what else LVM
> > can do:
> >
> > Snapshots.
>
> Well, I "disagree". This feature i
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Extra benefits of LVM: You won't need this right now for your simple
> desktop with one drive, but it's good to know what else LVM can do:
>
> Snapshots.
Well, I "disagree". This feature is also very useful on a
single drive setup. Reason why: Backup.
Am Samstag, 16. Juni 2007 schrieb Alexander Skwar:
> > I think it's safe to move /home but what do I do with /var, /usr, /tmp
> > and /opt?
>
> They can all be on LVM.
Yep. But if you have enough RAM, you could also put /tmp on tmpfs.
Bye...
Dirk
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· Florian Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to know which parts of my system need to stay on "traditional"
> partitions and which directories can be moved to an lvm if I don't want to
> use initrd and still be able to boot.
If you don't want to use an initrd, / needs to stay "tra
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, Richard Fish wrote:
On 12/24/06, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Could you elaborate on this? What init script? Something in /etc/init.d?
Something to be managed by rc-update?
/sbin/rc starts up lvm volumes, provided you have "lvm" in
RC_VOLUME_ORDER in /etc/co
On 12/24/06, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Could you elaborate on this? What init script? Something in /etc/init.d?
Something to be managed by rc-update?
/sbin/rc starts up lvm volumes, provided you have "lvm" in
RC_VOLUME_ORDER in /etc/conf.d/rc. The actual startup of lvm occurs
in
· Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> hi
>
> i'm trying setup lvm on running system using latest lvm2. lvm and kernel part
> seems ok but rest is problem,after reboot vg and lv are borked.
Please explain what you've done. The exact steps would be
interesting. Also please show what error messages you
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, Regis Decamps wrote:
Jorge Almeida wrote:
I'm about to start using LVM.
LVM-user or LVM2?
LVM2. (Don't know about the former...)
So, what's the problem? The problem is that vgdisplay, vgscan, vgchange,
pvdisplay, lvdisplay all say there are no volumes to be found!
Jorge Almeida wrote:
I'm about to start using LVM.
LVM-user or LVM2?
So, what's the problem? The problem is that vgdisplay, vgscan, vgchange,
pvdisplay, lvdisplay all say there are no volumes to be found!
What did I miss?
Have you modified lvm.conf?
Can you provide /etc/lvm/.cache?
One o
· Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> · Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Yep; snapshot to be exact.
>>
>
> Then I'll try to match up with that, though I may not use the feature.
Well, if you don't use it and don't plan to use it, then I'd suggest
to not compile it in (not even
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