On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:15:03PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote

> Every machine I run Linux on is a huge desktop system running behemoth
> software (Eclipse, GNOME, Chromium, LibreOffice, etc.).

  I have Abiword, Gimp, Gnumeric, Firefox, etc, running just fine, thank
you, on ICEWM.

> He seems to be  producing a rather vitriolic, and IMO uncalled-for,
> rant against the simple fact that computers do more stuff in 2012 than
> they did in 1972 and the udev developers are changing with the times.

> This argument falls flat when the author fails to identify what
> he or she considers to be critical vs. non-critical software. Is
> bluetoothd critical? On my laptop it is not. On my main development
> workstation it is not. On my wife's desktop it is because she has
> a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combination. Should bluetoothd be moved
> from /usr/sbin to /sbin? Along with libglib and libdbus, which it
> depends on? How about usbmuxd, or alsactl?

  *YOUR WIFE'S LAPTOP* won't boot properly without /usr on /, or an
initramfs.  OK, put /usr on /, or an initramfs *ON YOUR WIFE'S LAPTOP*.
I don't have a problem with that.  What gets people really upset is the
dog-in-the-manger attitude of "if my complex/corner-case machine won't
boot up without /usr on /, or an initramfs, then by golly *NOBODY'S*
machine will be allowed to boot up without /usr on /, or an initramfs".
My machine does not use bluetooth/other-weird-stuff.  udev doesn't need
to find bluetooth drivers on /usr on my machine.  Why is udev being
deliberately broken to not work on *EVERYBODY'S* machine if they don't
have /usr on /, or an initramfs?

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org>

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