On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Arttu V. wrote:
> On 9/17/11, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On 9/11/2011 the S&P 500 was within about .1% of where
>> it was on 9/10/2001. The 'Lost Decade'...
>
> You lucky and prosperous bastards! Take a look at some major European
> indexes over the same time span. DAX
On 9/17/11, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 the S&P 500 was within about .1% of where
> it was on 9/10/2001. The 'Lost Decade'...
You lucky and prosperous bastards! Take a look at some major European
indexes over the same time span. DAX for example. :D
--
Arttu V.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 17 Sep 2011 09:00:37 Pandu Poluan wrote:
>> On Sep 17, 2011 4:54 AM, "David W Noon" wrote:
>> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:49:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re:
>> >
>> > [gentoo-user
On Saturday 17 Sep 2011 09:00:37 Pandu Poluan wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2011 4:54 AM, "David W Noon" wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:49:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re:
> >
> > [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths:
> >
On Sep 17, 2011 4:54 AM, "David W Noon" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:49:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re:
> [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths:
>
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:02:27 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> [snip]
>
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:57:27 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
> > Are multiple hearts a requirement?
>
> I was thinking he was a Centauri.
Or a Time Lord, but that would be cheating in his line of work :)
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:49:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:02:27 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
[snip]
> > The world of trading is 99% boredom, 1% terror...
>
> Tell that to UBS...
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:02:27 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> Way off topic for this list but the metaphor I'd use is that while
>> hunched over my keyboard my computer suddenly grows arms, shoves it's
>> hands up inside my rib cage, rips my he
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:02:27 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Way off topic for this list but the metaphor I'd use is that while
> hunched over my keyboard my computer suddenly grows arms, shoves it's
> hands up inside my rib cage, rips my hearts out and holds it over me
> while writhing on the floor I
Harry Putnam wrote:
I caught just a hint of some kind of recent trouble when updating on
this list a few days ago but lost track of the thread or message.
I'd like to do update world and am some 4-5 mnths out of date right
now.
Am I likely to hit some horrible snag that has come up recently.
P
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Mick wrote:
> On Friday 16 Sep 2011 05:13:02 Pandu Poluan wrote:
>> On Sep 16, 2011 3:52 AM, "Mark Knecht" wrote:
>> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Alan McKinnon
>>
>> wrote:
>> > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:18:27 +0100
>> > >
>> > > Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> >
On Friday 16 Sep 2011 05:13:02 Pandu Poluan wrote:
> On Sep 16, 2011 3:52 AM, "Mark Knecht" wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Alan McKinnon
>
> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:18:27 +0100
> > >
> > > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:07:58 -0700, Mark Knecht wrot
On Sep 16, 2011 3:52 AM, "Mark Knecht" wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Alan McKinnon
wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:18:27 +0100
> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:07:58 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >>
> >> > While writing this the 24th trade completed (a winne
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:18:27 +0100
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:07:58 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> > While writing this the 24th trade completed (a winner) and the 25th
>> > trade has started. It's a good day when yo
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:18:27 +0100
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:07:58 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> > While writing this the 24th trade completed (a winner) and the 25th
> > trade has started. It's a good day when you make money while writing
> > email responses to gentoo-users.
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:07:58 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> While writing this the 24th trade completed (a winner) and the 25th
> trade has started. It's a good day when you make money while writing
> email responses to gentoo-users... :-)
I'll have to take your word for that :)
--
Neil Bothwick
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:26:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> I think you have a specific view that is likely the very best thing to
>> do for your situation, what ever that is, be it work, office, server
>> farm. I don't know. I'm guessing ho
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:26:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> I think you have a specific view that is likely the very best thing to
> do for your situation, what ever that is, be it work, office, server
> farm. I don't know. I'm guessing however, that in your world machines
> are always turned on, bur
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:40:32 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
>
>> If fetch-only is done unattended, and there's a really slow mirror,
>> the interactive emerge later will still be fast, where if using
>> parallel-fetch and you hit a slow download
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:40:32 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
> If fetch-only is done unattended, and there's a really slow mirror,
> the interactive emerge later will still be fast, where if using
> parallel-fetch and you hit a slow download, you just have to wait, or
> bring up the fetch log in anothe
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:07:30 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
> > OK, sorry for offering my opinion. I'll just go away an not bother
> > anyone.
>
> Relax; I think he was just offering some advice and additional
> information.
Exactly. The world would be a boring place if we all thought and did
thing
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:07:45 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>>> > There's not point in doing the fetch first, portage has done parallel
>>> > fetching for some time - it's faster to let
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> There's not point in doing the fetch first, portage has done parallel
> fetching for some time - it's faster to let the distfiles download while
> the first package is compiling.
Speed is not always the biggest concern to me. For example, an
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:07:45 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> > There's not point in doing the fetch first, portage has done parallel
>> > fetching for some time - it's faster to let the distfiles download
>> > while the first package is compi
On Thursday 15 Sep 2011 08:04:25 Pandu Poluan wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2011 1:53 PM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:07:45 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > Anyway, it works well for this old dog, and in my mind there is a good
> > > reason to fetch before building but I can see how oth
On Sep 15, 2011 1:53 PM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:07:45 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> > Anyway, it works well for this old dog, and in my mind there is a good
> > reason to fetch before building but I can see how others might not
> > want to do that.
>
> I use it too, but
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:07:45 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > There's not point in doing the fetch first, portage has done parallel
> > fetching for some time - it's faster to let the distfiles download
> > while the first package is compiling.
> >
> > emerge -auDN @world covers all of that - except
Mark Knecht wrote:
Nahh, you miss my point. I don't want my attention to be anywhere near
the machine except for the 1 minute it takes to run the fetch, and
then assuming that worked, for the 1 minute it takes to start the
build. I then come back an hour or two later, make sure everything got
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Dale wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:37:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>
3) Do the rest of the work
emerge -fDuN @world
emerge -pvDuN @world
Fix US
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:37:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
3) Do the rest of the work
emerge -fDuN @world
emerge -pvDuN @world
Fix USE flag issues, if any
4) Do the build
emerge -DuN -j13 @world
There's not point in doi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:37:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> 3) Do the rest of the work
>>
>> emerge -fDuN @world
>> emerge -pvDuN @world
>>
>> Fix USE flag issues, if any
>>
>> 4) Do the build
>>
>> emerge -DuN -j13 @world
>
> There's not poi
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:03:34 -0500, Dale wrote:
I agree with the other post about gcc but you should also update
portage shortly after that. The newer portage is able to handle more
issues for you and may save you some
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:37:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 3) Do the rest of the work
>
> emerge -fDuN @world
> emerge -pvDuN @world
>
> Fix USE flag issues, if any
>
> 4) Do the build
>
> emerge -DuN -j13 @world
There's not point in doing the fetch first, portage has done parallel
fetching for
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:03:34 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I agree with the other post about gcc but you should also update
>> portage shortly after that. The newer portage is able to handle more
>> issues for you and may save you some time. So,
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:03:34 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I agree with the other post about gcc but you should also update
> portage shortly after that. The newer portage is able to handle more
> issues for you and may save you some time. So, I would update gcc,
> portage then give world a try. If it l
Harry Putnam wrote:
I caught just a hint of some kind of recent trouble when updating on
this list a few days ago but lost track of the thread or message.
I'd like to do update world and am some 4-5 mnths out of date right
now.
Am I likely to hit some horrible snag that has come up recently.
P
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
> I caught just a hint of some kind of recent trouble when updating on
> this list a few days ago but lost track of the thread or message.
>
> I'd like to do update world and am some 4-5 mnths out of date right
> now.
>
> Am I likely to hit some
I caught just a hint of some kind of recent trouble when updating on
this list a few days ago but lost track of the thread or message.
I'd like to do update world and am some 4-5 mnths out of date right
now.
Am I likely to hit some horrible snag that has come up recently.
PS - I'm already past t
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