On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 03:41:31PM +, Penguin Lover Neil Bothwick squawked:
> > http://www.dslinux.org/
> > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
> >
> > DSLinux = Linux on the Nintendo DS
> > DSL = Damn Small Linux
>
> I knew about the latter of course, having already mentioned it. I'd also
> said
>> The problem with that is there doesn't seem to be a Gentoo ISO which
>> will fit on a 512MB USB key. I tried to make it work once and failed.
>> The other thing is going through the entire Gentoo installation just
>> to sell the laptop. I'm not sure if the graphical installer is
>> working th
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:06:53PM -0800, Penguin Lover Grant squawked:
> The problem with that is there doesn't seem to be a Gentoo ISO which
> will fit on a 512MB USB key. I tried to make it work once and failed.
> The other thing is going through the entire Gentoo installation just
> to sell t
New problem: Booted into DSLinux, my HD does not appear so I can't
wipe it. blkid and fdisk -l only show the USB stick assigned to
/dev/sda which is how I accidentally wiped it in the first place.
I'll try another distro on the USB stick.
>>
>> DSLinux couldn't find my HD becau
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:04:30 +1000, John H. Moe wrote:
> > DS = Damn Small, not Dual Screen.
> >
> > I don't know if anyone has installed Gentoo on the DS you were
> > thinking of ;-)
> >
> The anal-retentive in me feels compelled to point out:
>
> http://www.dslinux.org/
> http://www.damnsm
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:31:31 -0500, Willie Wong wrote:
>
>
>> If DSLinux is what I think it is, it may have been (on hindsight)
>> rather obvious that it may not support the block device your system HD
>> is on or the filesystem used. The DS, afterall, has fairly predictab
On Tuesday 22 December 2009 04:59:02 Grant wrote:
> > I'll report back with Puppy Linux results.
>
> Puppy Linux has wiped the HD and installed to /dev/sda3, but I can't
> get it to install GRUB to /dev/sda1. I get:
>
> I couldn't mount '/dev/sda1' read-write!
>
> Working on it
You cannot
>>> New problem: Booted into DSLinux, my HD does not appear so I can't
>>> wipe it. blkid and fdisk -l only show the USB stick assigned to
>>> /dev/sda which is how I accidentally wiped it in the first place.
>>> I'll try another distro on the USB stick.
>
> DSLinux couldn't find my HD because it
Grant wrote:
New problem: Booted into DSLinux, my HD does not appear so I can't
wipe it. blkid and fdisk -l only show the USB stick assigned to
/dev/sda which is how I accidentally wiped it in the first place.
I'll try another distro on the USB stick.
If DSLinux is what I think it is,
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:31:31 -0500, Willie Wong wrote:
> If DSLinux is what I think it is, it may have been (on hindsight)
> rather obvious that it may not support the block device your system HD
> is on or the filesystem used. The DS, afterall, has fairly predictable
> hardware.
DS = Damn Small
>>> New problem: Booted into DSLinux, my HD does not appear so I can't
>>> wipe it. blkid and fdisk -l only show the USB stick assigned to
>>> /dev/sda which is how I accidentally wiped it in the first place.
>>> I'll try another distro on the USB stick.
>>>
>>
>> If DSLinux is what I think it is,
>> New problem: Booted into DSLinux, my HD does not appear so I can't
>> wipe it. blkid and fdisk -l only show the USB stick assigned to
>> /dev/sda which is how I accidentally wiped it in the first place.
>> I'll try another distro on the USB stick.
DSLinux couldn't find my HD because it needs t
Willie Wong wrote:
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:01:38AM -0800, Penguin Lover Grant squawked:
New problem: Booted into DSLinux, my HD does not appear so I can't
wipe it. blkid and fdisk -l only show the USB stick assigned to
/dev/sda which is how I accidentally wiped it in the first place.
I'll
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:01:38AM -0800, Penguin Lover Grant squawked:
> New problem: Booted into DSLinux, my HD does not appear so I can't
> wipe it. blkid and fdisk -l only show the USB stick assigned to
> /dev/sda which is how I accidentally wiped it in the first place.
> I'll try another dist
>> Is there a quick way to install a bootloader manually, so I can see if
>> that works? I tried to adapt this but couldn't come up with a
>> procedure I though would be correct:
>
> Don't know about the distro you were trying to install, but when I
> need a bootable USB disk with utils, I usually
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 01:56:39PM -0800, Penguin Lover Grant squawked:
> Is there a quick way to install a bootloader manually, so I can see if
> that works? I tried to adapt this but couldn't come up with a
> procedure I though would be correct:
Don't know about the distro you were trying to in
>> > Does the USB stick still boot? It looks like you wiped the wrong
>> device.
>>
>> Bingo, right as usual! Apparently I wiped the USB stick. I ran fdisk
>> and mk2fs -j again (do I want journaling?) and reinstalled Damn Small
>> Linux on the stick. For some reason the laptop tell me "missing
>> > Does the USB stick still boot? It looks like you wiped the wrong
>> device.
>>
>> Bingo, right as usual! Apparently I wiped the USB stick. I ran fdisk
>> and mk2fs -j again (do I want journaling?) and reinstalled Damn Small
>> Linux on the stick. For some reason the laptop tell me "missing
On Sat, 2009-12-19 at 08:50 -0800, Grant wrote:
> > Does the USB stick still boot? It looks like you wiped the wrong
> device.
>
> Bingo, right as usual! Apparently I wiped the USB stick. I ran fdisk
> and mk2fs -j again (do I want journaling?) and reinstalled Damn Small
> Linux on the stick. F
>> I checked on it after a few hours and it said "No space left on
>> device" and the process had exited. I rebooted the system without the
>> key inserted and unfortunately it came back up to the normal HD so
>> nothing has been wiped. Any idea what I did wrong?
>
> Does the USB stick still boot
On 12/18/2009 8:58 PM, Grant wrote:
I used unetbootin to install Damn Small Linux on the 512MB bootable
USB key, and I'm booted into it. /dev/sda is my HD, and I'm running:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
The USB LED is blinking rapidly, but the HD LED is showing no
activity. Is there any way to
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:58:06 -0800, Grant wrote:
> I checked on it after a few hours and it said "No space left on
> device" and the process had exited. I rebooted the system without the
> key inserted and unfortunately it came back up to the normal HD so
> nothing has been wiped. Any idea what
On Thursday 17 December 2009 12:47:23 Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 11:42 +, Mick wrote:
> > shred ... shreds files. Therefore you may need to point it to the
> > files in question for it to work.
> No. This is horribly wrong. Please don't tell people this.
It's not entir
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or what ever)
>
After reading over all the info here, I think I'm going to go with dd
since the data isn't too sensitive.
I created a "9.1_Live_x64" USB key with unetbootin, but the laptop
won't boot to it. I have another 512MB U
On 12/18/2009 6:05 PM, Grant wrote:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or what ever)
After reading over all the info here, I think I'm going to go with dd
since the data isn't too sensitive.
I created a "9.1_Live_x64" USB key with unetbootin, but the laptop
won't boot to it. I have another
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 15:05 -0800, Grant wrote:
> I used unetbootin to install Damn Small Linux on the 512MB bootable
> USB key, and I'm booted into it. /dev/sda is my HD, and I'm running:
>
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
>
> The USB LED is blinking rapidly, but the HD LED is showing no
> activit
Grant wrote:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or what ever)
After reading over all the info here, I think I'm going to go with dd
since the data isn't too sensitive.
I created a "9.1_Live_x64" USB key with unetbootin, but the laptop
won't boot to it. I have another 512MB USB key that it b
>>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or what ever)
>>
>> After reading over all the info here, I think I'm going to go with dd
>> since the data isn't too sensitive.
>>
>> I created a "9.1_Live_x64" USB key with unetbootin, but the laptop
>> won't boot to it. I have another 512MB USB key that it boots
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 12:20 -0600, Dale wrote:
> Wouldn't Knoppix work? I'm pretty sure it has the dd command and I
> know
> you can install Gentoo from it. Since there are some versions of
> Knoppis that would fit on a CD, I would see if one of those would fit
> on
> the 512Mb thingy.
>
> Da
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 09:08 -0800, Grant wrote:
>
> After reading over all the info here, I think I'm going to go with dd
> since the data isn't too sensitive.
>
> I created a "9.1_Live_x64" USB key with unetbootin, but the laptop
> won't boot to it. I have another 512MB USB key that it boots to
>>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or what ever)
>>>
>>
>> After reading over all the info here, I think I'm going to go with dd
>> since the data isn't too sensitive.
>>
>> I created a "9.1_Live_x64" USB key with unetbootin, but the laptop
>> won't boot to it. I have another 512MB USB key that it b
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Grant wrote:
>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or what ever)
>
> After reading over all the info here, I think I'm going to go with dd
> since the data isn't too sensitive.
>
> I created a "9.1_Live_x64" USB key with unetbootin, but the laptop
> won't boot to it. I
Grant wrote:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or what ever)
After reading over all the info here, I think I'm going to go with dd
since the data isn't too sensitive.
I created a "9.1_Live_x64" USB key with unetbootin, but the laptop
won't boot to it. I have another 512MB USB key that it boot
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or what ever)
After reading over all the info here, I think I'm going to go with dd
since the data isn't too sensitive.
I created a "9.1_Live_x64" USB key with unetbootin, but the laptop
won't boot to it. I have another 512MB USB key that it boots to just
fine. Co
From: Neil Bothwick
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:49:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Let's look at the obvious solution then:
> > remove the hard drive containing sensitive data, replace it with a new
> > one, sell laptop.
> > Ka-Ching! Problem solved.
> Unfortunately, the hard drive seller gets mo
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:49:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Let's look at the obvious solution then:
>
> remove the hard drive containing sensitive data, replace it with a new
> one, sell laptop.
>
> Ka-Ching! Problem solved.
Unfortunately, the hard drive seller gets more Ka-Ching and the OP get
On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:40, Marcus Wanner wrote:
On 12/17/2009 6:42 AM, Mick wrote:
On Thursday 17 December 2009 05:13:32 Joshua Murphy wrote:
chicane ~ # shred test/
shred: test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
chicane ~ # shred -v -n 25 -z -u ~/test/
shred: /root/test/: failed to
On Thursday 17 December 2009 16:26:20 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:40:40 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote:
> > That would be a bit inconvenient...I still vote for dd, overwriting the
> > thing 26 times sounds like WAY overkill for a hdd...
>
> Doesn't that depend on the contents of the
Joshua Murphy writes:
> A) To fill the drive with zeros:
>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/
Should be enough for practical purposes.
> B) And, to make it at least questionable whether you wiped it or
> merely had it encrypted:
>dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/
Similar method, but faster: badblocks -t
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thursday 17 December 2009 02:37:54 Robert Bridge wrote:
>> dd is pretty thorough... afterall, it writes to every single block on the
>> disk.
>>
>
> And the resulting effect from doing that once is:
>
> Trivially easy to recover the data
On 17/12/09 15:12, Alex Schuster wrote:
> Well, OK, not quite: a single bit whose
> precise location is known can in fact be correctly reconstructed with
> 56 per cent probability (in one of the quoted examples)
So a thing with a 50:50 change of being in a given state, can be
identified, a lit
Alan McKinnon writes:
> On Thursday 17 December 2009 02:37:54 Robert Bridge wrote:
> > dd is pretty thorough... afterall, it writes to every single block on
> > the disk.
>
> And the resulting effect from doing that once is:
>
> Trivially easy to recover the data that was there just before you d
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:40:40 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote:
> That would be a bit inconvenient...I still vote for dd, overwriting the
> thing 26 times sounds like WAY overkill for a hdd...
Doesn't that depend on the contents of the disk? I don't see what's wrong
with booting a DBAN disk and letting
On 12/17/2009 6:42 AM, Mick wrote:
On Thursday 17 December 2009 05:13:32 Joshua Murphy wrote:
chicane ~ # shred test/
shred: test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
chicane ~ # shred -v -n 25 -z -u ~/test/
shred: /root/test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
shred
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 11:42 +, Mick wrote:
> shred ... shreds files. Therefore you may need to point it to the
> files in
> question for it to work. I suspect that if you point it to a device
> alone it
> just shreds the file representing the device on the Linux fs in
> question.
No. Thi
On Thursday 17 December 2009 05:13:32 Joshua Murphy wrote:
> chicane ~ # shred test/
> shred: test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
> chicane ~ # shred -v -n 25 -z -u ~/test/
> shred: /root/test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
>
shred ... shreds files. Therefore you may
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 23:24:51 Marcus Wanner wrote:
> On 12/16/2009 2:24 PM, Mick wrote:
> > On Wednesday 16 December 2009 18:49:07 Grant wrote:
> >> I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
> >> install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
>> dd is pretty thorough... afterall, it writes to every single block on the
>> disk.
>>
>
> And the resulting effect from doing that once is:
>
> Trivially easy to recover the data that was there just before you did the dd
>
> Why? Data on-disk is not a binary cell like ram. It is a magnetic p
On Thursday 17 December 2009 02:37:54 Robert Bridge wrote:
> dd is pretty thorough... afterall, it writes to every single block on the
> disk.
>
And the resulting effect from doing that once is:
Trivially easy to recover the data that was there just before you did the dd
Why? Data on-disk is n
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Dale wrote:
> Joshua Murphy wrote:
>> That is, of course, when shredding individual files, where the final
>> location and initial locations for them may not wind up being the same
>> place on disk. When 'shredding' a whole partition, though, the file
>> system its
Joshua Murphy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Dale wrote:
Mick wrote:
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 18:49:07 Grant wrote:
I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
more). I'
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday 16 December 2009 18:49:07 Grant wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
>>> install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
>>> more). I've got a bootab
dd is pretty thorough... afterall, it writes to every single block on the disk.
Mick wrote:
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 18:49:07 Grant wrote:
I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
more). I've got a bootable USB key that will get me into Gentoo. How
would you take it fro
On 12/16/2009 2:24 PM, Mick wrote:
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 18:49:07 Grant wrote:
I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
more). I've got a bootable USB key that will get me into Gentoo. H
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 19:24 +, Mick wrote:
>
> First I'd mount the partitions and then emerge/use shred:
>
> # shred -v -n 25 -z -u /mnt/a_partition
>
I wouldn't even mount it. I'd shred the entire block device (may take a
while) then repartion/reinstall.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Grant wrote:
> I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
> install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
> more). I've got a bootable USB key that will get me into Gentoo. How
> would you take it from there? I'm l
Darik's Boot and Nuke is a good projects for wiping.
http://www.dban.org/
On 12/16/2009 10:49 AM, Grant wrote:
> I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
> install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
> more). I've got a bootable USB key that wi
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or what ever)
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Grant wrote:
> I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
> install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
> more). I've got a bootable USB key that will get me into Gentoo.
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 18:49:07 Grant wrote:
> I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
> install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
> more). I've got a bootable USB key that will get me into Gentoo. How
> would you take it from there?
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:49:07 -0800, Grant wrote:
> I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
> install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
> more). I've got a bootable USB key that will get me into Gentoo. How
> would you take it from there? I'
I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
more). I've got a bootable USB key that will get me into Gentoo. How
would you take it from there? I'm looking for something quick and
easy. My data isn't too
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