Re: [gentoo-user] PORTDIR_OVERLAY getting ignored.

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 12:53:53 AM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > Hi, > > I got two overlays that I added manually with PORTDIR_OVERLAY on make.conf and > one through layman. Just I few days ago I added a patched ebuild for x11- > drivers/ati-drivers to satisfy some dependencies for the multil

[gentoo-user] PORTDIR_OVERLAY getting ignored.

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
Hi, I got two overlays that I added manually with PORTDIR_OVERLAY on make.conf and one through layman. Just I few days ago I added a patched ebuild for x11- drivers/ati-drivers to satisfy some dependencies for the multilib update (it doesn't build with the latest vanilla sources and prior to tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/04/2015 18:48, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Grant Edwards wrote: > > > >> On 2015-04-03, Walter Dnes wrote: > >>> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:12:40PM -0300, Francisco Ares wrote > Hi, > > How does one know previously which packages will require 32

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
wrote: > We should not forget that the lasers that can be found in CD drives, > the magnetic heads in modern hard disks, and also every FET are > working with technology that is based on quantum effects. I never Correction: I meant TFET and not FET. -- Regards wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 2:50:37 AM waben...@gmail.com wrote: > One thing that I don't understand is, why the fact that gravity can be > described by a theory of bended space-time is leading to the assumption, > that there really exists such a "rubber cloth" like space. I think it's because h

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Friday, April 03, 2015 5:05:35 AM waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Boricua Siempre wrote: > > > > > Hello > > > > > > I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating > > > systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers > > > >

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Peter Humphrey > wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:11:11 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > >> That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may > >> never be able to answer is "why?". > > > > I think that's the crux of the pr

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase and setup of monitor calibration device

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
Mick wrote: [...] > > > This is also why I put a lot of time and energy into research > > > before I purchase something pricey. For instance, I read in > > > hardware forums and through reviews for many weeks before I > > > finally decided on all components of my PC that I assembled last > > > ye

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/04/2015 23:11, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may > > never be able to answer is "why?". Take gravity as an example. We > > got really good models for it, we can predict how it influences > > even light with

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread wabenbau
Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Friday, April 03, 2015 5:05:35 AM waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Boricua Siempre wrote: > > > > > Hello > > > > > > I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating > > > systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread microcai
on Thursday 02 April 2015 18:33:06,Boricua Siempre wrote: > From: Boricua Siempre > To: gentoo-user > Date: Yesterday 06:33:06 > Hello > > I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems > are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers can use > particols

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 7:30:09 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > Well, the quantum mechanic would say that the position of the ball was > indeterminate until it was measured. The probability of it being in > any particular position is given by some function that agrees with > experiment very well. And

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 12:02:02 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:11:11 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > No, it's stronger than that. Einstein showed us how it works. The > consequence of having a certain concentration of mass /here/ is to distort > space-time just /so/ in

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 1:57:19 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/04/2015 23:11, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be able > > to answer is "why?". Take gravity as an example. We got really good models for > > it, we can predi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/04/2015 18:48, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2015-04-03, Walter Dnes wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:12:40PM -0300, Francisco Ares wrote Hi, How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? I have two systems

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/04/2015 23:11, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be > able > to answer is "why?". Take gravity as an example. We got really good models > for > it, we can predict how it influences even light with great accuracy but what >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread covici
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 14:09:23 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > hmmm, one of the things dependent on emul-linux thingies is the C > > compiler! both 4.8.4 and 4.9, so if I unmerge the emul things, will I > > still have a C compiler? > > What does "emerge -pv gcc" tel

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > There's an explanation for uncertainty that makes common sense. Let's say I > throw you a ball, you can catch it because you take many measurements of it's > location and your brain tries to predict it's path. But this only works > beca

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:11:11 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > >> That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be >> able to answer is "why?". > > I think that's the crux of the problem with some current approaches to

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 04 April 2015 00:02:02 Peter Humphrey wrote: > Its job is to explain show "this is how the world works." s/show// -- Rgds Peter.

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 03 April 2015 17:11:11 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be > able to answer is "why?". I think that's the crux of the problem with some current approaches to physics. Science does not answer the question "why?". That isn

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 03 April 2015 14:09:23 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > hmmm, one of the things dependent on emul-linux thingies is the C > compiler! both 4.8.4 and 4.9, so if I unmerge the emul things, will I > still have a C compiler? What does "emerge -pv gcc" tell you about emul-linux? -- Rgds Pete

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:06:30PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Friday 03 April 2015 06:58:38 Rich Freeman wrote: > > > I'm not convinced that anybody has proven that quantum behavior is truly > > non-deterministic > > But it must be, surely, since it's probabilistic. I don't see how > the do

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 8:03:12 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 06:58:38 Rich Freeman wrote: > > > >> I'm not convinced that anybody has proven that quantum behavior is truly > >> non-deterministic > > > > But it must be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread Mick
On Friday 03 Apr 2015 19:09:23 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Mick wrote: > > On Friday 03 Apr 2015 17:48:38 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > Grant Edwards wrote: > > > > On 2015-04-03, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:12:40PM -0300, Francisco Ares wrote > > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread covici
Mick wrote: > On Friday 03 Apr 2015 17:48:38 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Grant Edwards wrote: > > > On 2015-04-03, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:12:40PM -0300, Francisco Ares wrote > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> How does one know previously which packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread Mick
On Friday 03 Apr 2015 17:48:38 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2015-04-03, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:12:40PM -0300, Francisco Ares wrote > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread covici
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-04-03, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:12:40PM -0300, Francisco Ares wrote > >> Hi, > >> > >> How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? > >> > >> I have two systems (among others) to consider: one is very simple, buil

[gentoo-user] Re: multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-04-03, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:12:40PM -0300, Francisco Ares wrote >> Hi, >> >> How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? >> >> I have two systems (among others) to consider: one is very simple, built >> using as fewer packages as possi

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 06:58:38 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I'm not convinced that anybody has proven that quantum behavior is truly >> non-deterministic > > But it must be, surely, since it's probabilistic. I don't see how the domain > of prob

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase and setup of monitor calibration device

2015-04-03 Thread Mick
On Friday 03 Apr 2015 02:57:07 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > A wide gamut monitor is a great thing even if you don't need it for > > > softproofing. I shot a lot of colorful photos (e.g. from bugs, > > > blossoms and live concerts with colored limelights). They look >

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 03 April 2015 06:58:38 Rich Freeman wrote: > I'm not convinced that anybody has proven that quantum behavior is truly > non-deterministic But it must be, surely, since it's probabilistic. I don't see how the domain of probabilistic behaviour can overlap the domain of deterministic beh

Re: [gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 03 April 2015 01:30:53 Walter Dnes wrote: > Bad news for Virtualbox... > > == > > [d531][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv virtualbox > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies...

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:30 PM, wrote: > wrote: > >> with the movement of particles. It is a phenomenon that results from >> the quantum entanglement of e.g. two electrons and has to do with the >> nonlocality of such phenomenons. When you measure the quantum >> attributes of one of these two e

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:00:52 +0100, Stroller wrote: > Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old entries? > > I could write a script to go through package.keywords line by line and, > for packages where the entry is =package-version.1.2.3, delete those > lines where a newer version

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-03 Thread Philip Webb
150403 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:02:54AM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 03:28:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: >>> if there's only 1 tab open & you kill it, it kills the whole FF job too. >> Fortunately, we’re not left standing in the rain : >

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-03 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: > On Thu, 2 April 2015, at 5:24 pm, Rich Freeman wrote: >> The alternative is what I have now - a 1200 line package.keywords file >> that tells portage to build half the system 32-bit, when I could care >> less … > Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old entries?

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-03 Thread Stroller
On Thu, 2 April 2015, at 5:24 pm, Rich Freeman wrote: > > The alternative is what I have now - a 1200 line package.keywords file > that tells portage to build half the system 32-bit, when I could care > less … Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old entries? I could write a

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-03 Thread Stroller
On Fri, 3 April 2015, at 12:25 am, Mick wrote: > > When people you need to communicate with on MSWindows boxes only know how to > manage Skype-ware and you don't run a SIP proxy server yourself, your choices > reduce somewhat. We'll have to reincarnate Alexander Graham Bell and see if he can

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-03 Thread Stroller
On Thu, 2 April 2015, at 4:37 pm, Grant Edwards wrote: > > I prefer it this way. I do not want all the nice easy-to read/edit > configuration stuff in /etc/portage encrypted some Windows Registry > break-alike. What's bad about the Windows registry is that its proprietary file format is both

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-03 Thread Stroller
On Thu, 2 April 2015, at 8:28 am, Philip Webb wrote: > ... > I've finished reading 'Guardian' (eg) & am doing something else, > but the fan is working busily, wearing itself out & irritating me ; > when I kill FF -- however I do it -- everything calms down. > No, I'm not wasting my time complaini

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-03 Thread Ivan T. Ivanov
On Thu, 2015-04-02 at 17:25 -0500, »Q« wrote: > On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 17:03:15 +0300 > "Ivan T. Ivanov" wrote: > > > On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 01:37 +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > > This really made my day. :-) > > > > > > https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html > > > > Eeh,