Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
> On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500
>>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>>
When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I
brought my 46" LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 compu
On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500
>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>>> When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I
>>> brought my 46" LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and
>>> other electronics).
Yet another obscure + unexpected bump to trip over.
I carefully copied .fetchmailrc from the other machine
-- I'm now using the new one to send this -- made sure
it was owned by 'purslow' (user) & had read permissions. Not enough !
Could I get error msgs ? How could I find out what it was doi
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Dale wrote:
> New question about HDMI. I have a pretty nice video card that has a 15
> pin connector and HDMI. Do I have to do anything special to use the
> HDMI or does it just send the same signal to both connectors? I have my
> monitor hooked to the 15 pin co
On 09/18/2012 10:37 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi all,
>Are there any known tricks for auto-mounting an MTP device? I think
> this stuff is used on some newer Android phone so I'm hoping someone
> has a nice solution.
MTP is used on a quite a few newer Android devices, including my Nexus
7. I ha
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> As someone who's done more electronics work than he ever should, any
> device that can suffer electrical damage simply by being plugged and
> unplugged from the thing it's supposed to be plugged into is a shoddy
> design and really should be in the bin. The only thing I ever
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:03:15 Dale wrote:
>
>> My biggest expenses, refrigeration and heating/cooling. I have a
>> large fridge, two deep freezers, two window A/C's for summer and a
>> large heater for the winter. Compare any of those to my computer,
>> the compute
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2012-09-18, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:37:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>
mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
UBSYSTEM=="usb", A
The rest of my new box is working, but -- as expected -- mail isn't.
I can send mail, which is recorded in syslog & arrives at this machine,
but I can't grab mail from the 2 mail servers out there (ISP + UoT).
The cron job in /var/spool/cron/crontabs is the same as here
with the same permission
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:03:15 Dale wrote:
> My biggest expenses, refrigeration and heating/cooling. I have a
> large fridge, two deep freezers, two window A/C's for summer and a
> large heater for the winter. Compare any of those to my computer,
> the computer is a rounding error. My ma
On 2012-09-18, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:37:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
>>> UBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0007",
>>> MODE="0666
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:37:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
>> UBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0007",
>> MODE="0666" mark@c2stable ~ $
>>
>>Anyway, it's
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:00:00 -0500
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Dale wrote:
> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:30:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >>
> > One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of
> > protection. Odd.
> >
> indee
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:03:15 -0500
Dale wrote:
> My biggest expenses, refrigeration and heating/cooling. I have a
> large fridge, two deep freezers, two window A/C's for summer and a
> large heater for the winter. Compare any of those to my computer, the
> computer is a rounding error. My main
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I
>> brought my 46" LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and
>> other electronics). After a couple of months of shock of seeing
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:30:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>
> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
> Odd.
>
indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
>>> Well, I meant fo
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I
> brought my 46" LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and
> other electronics). After a couple of months of shock of seeing the
> electric bills, we sta
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale:
>> The important part is about 'if yo
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:30:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
Odd.
>>> indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
>> Well, I meant for the serial/parallel chips tho. Surely it can't be
Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 04:50:30 schrieb Dale:
>>>
One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
Odd.
>>> indeed. The modern stuff with protection is
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:37:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
> UBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0007",
> MODE="0666" mark@c2stable ~ $
>
>Anyway, it's all usable but a bit clumsy. Is there a sensible way I
> can ha
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:30:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
> >> Odd.
> >>
> > indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
> Well, I meant for the serial/parallel chips tho. Surely it can't be
> hard to at least keep
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dale wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale:
>>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale:
> The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N her
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Dale wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 04:50:30 schrieb Dale:
>>
>>> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
>>> Odd.
>>>
>> indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
>>
>>
>
> Wel
Paul Hartman wrote:
>On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick
>wrote:
>> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because
>I'd
>> got away with it before.
>
>The strangest thing I fried via hotplug was an Ethernet card via cat5
>cable insertion! It made a little electri
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 04:50:30 schrieb Dale:
>
>> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
>> Odd.
>>
> indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
>
>
Well, I meant for the serial/parallel chips tho. Surely it ca
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale:
The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'.
Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeu
Neil Bothwick wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:51:49 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
>> > Plus, aren't you supposed to only unplug/plug a serial cable when
>it
>> > is off? I'm not sure if they are sensitive to that but pretty sure
>> > they were a long time ago.
>>
>> Not sure about Serial, I alw
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
>>> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Yes,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, beca
Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 13:03:15 schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
> >
> > wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick
wrote:
> >>> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a
Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 04:50:30 schrieb Dale:
> One would think that modern stuff would have some sort of protection.
> Odd.
>
indeed. The modern stuff with protection is called 'usb'.
--
#163933
Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale:
> >> The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'.
> >> Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything so I don't
> >> t
On 09/18/12 15:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
[snip]
I'm in group "tty", so I can not figure it out why virtualbox is
complaining.
What happens when you do "cat /dev/ttyS0"?
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! ... bleakness
at
Hi all,
Are there any known tricks for auto-mounting an MTP device? I think
this stuff is used on some newer Android phone so I'm hoping someone
has a nice solution.
My wife decided to buy the new Kindle Fire HD based on our good
experience with the original Kindle Fire. The new device is ve
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because I'd
>>> got away with it before.
>>
>> The strangest thi
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because I'd
>> got away with it before.
>
> The strangest thing I fried via hotplug was an Ethernet card via cat5
> cable i
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because I'd
> got away with it before.
The strangest thing I fried via hotplug was an Ethernet card via cat5
cable insertion! It made a little electrical "pop" sound and that was
t
On 2012-09-18, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 11:01, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>
>>> How do I check if some other application are not using serial port?
>>
>>lsof -n |grep /dev/tty
>>
>>--
>>:wq
>
> Nothing is using ttyS0
That has nothing to do with a permission error. If you had proper
permissions, y
On 2012-09-18, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 15:06, Grant Edwards wrote:
>I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
>error:
>
>NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
>(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
>>[...]
>What am I missing?
>>
Do you ha
On 09/18/12 15:06, Grant Edwards wrote:
I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
error:
NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
[...]
What am I missing?
Do you have permissions set correctly to access the serial port
normally
On 09/18/12 11:01, Michael Mol wrote:
How do I check if some other application are not using serial port?
lsof -n |grep /dev/tty
--
:wq
Nothing is using ttyS0 so I'm puzzled why virtualbox is giving me permission
error
--
Joseph
On 2012-09-18, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>Joseph wrote:
>>
>>>I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
>>>error:
>>>
>>>NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
>>>(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
[...]
>>>What am I missing?
>>Do you h
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>
>> Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
>>> error:
>>>
>>> NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
>>> (VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
>>>
>>> in "
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Peter Humphrey
wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 September 2012 02:13:14 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Peter Humphrey
>>
>> wrote:
>> > I resent the kernel's insistence on deciding when my monitor should
>> > be switched off. I'm perfectly c
On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Joseph wrote:
I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
error:
NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
in "inittab" I have:
c7:2345:respawn:/usr/sbin/faxgetty ttyS0
is the above correct?
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 02:13:14 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Peter Humphrey
>
> wrote:
> > I resent the kernel's insistence on deciding when my monitor should
> > be switched off. I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself, thank
> > you very much.
>
> Well
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:55:30 +1000, Adam Carter wrote:
> > You were lucky, it's like forgetting to look when you cross the road.
> > Getting away with it once doesn't mean it is safe.
> >
> > Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because
> > I'd got away with it before.
>
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Joseph wrote:
> On 09/18/12 15:12, Alex Schuster wrote:
>>
>> J. Roeleveld writes:
>>
>>> Joseph wrote:
>>
>>
ls -l /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Sep 17 20:56
/dev/ttyS0
Is the above correct permission?
>>
>>
>>> Those are default perm
On 09/18/12 15:12, Alex Schuster wrote:
J. Roeleveld writes:
Joseph wrote:
ls -l /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Sep 17 20:56
/dev/ttyS0
Is the above correct permission?
Those are default permissions. However those normally won't give a
normal user access. You can change the perm
On 09/18/12 15:03, J. Roeleveld wrote:
[snip]
The tty0 has permission:
ls -l /dev/ttyS0
crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Sep 17 20:56 /dev/ttyS0
Is the above correct permission?
Thanks,
Those are default permissions. However those normally won't give a normal user
access. You can change the pe
J. Roeleveld writes:
Joseph wrote:
ls -l /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Sep 17 20:56
/dev/ttyS0
Is the above correct permission?
Those are default permissions. However those normally won't give a
normal user access. You can change the permissions of that
file/device to enable you
Joseph wrote:
>On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>Joseph wrote:
>>
>>>I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
>>>error:
>>>
>>>NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
>>>(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
>>>
>>>in "inittab" I have:
>>>c7:2345:respawn:/usr/sb
On 09/18/12 07:07, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Joseph wrote:
I'm trying to configure virutalbox serial port, but I'm getting an
error:
NamedPipe#0 failed to connect to local socket /dev/ttyS0
(VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
in "inittab" I have:
c7:2345:respawn:/usr/sbin/faxgetty ttyS0
is the above correct?
> You were lucky, it's like forgetting to look when you cross the road.
> Getting away with it once doesn't mean it is safe.
>
> Yes, I have blown a UART chip by hotplugging a serial cable, because I'd
> got away with it before.
I must have hot plugged serial connections on Sun, Cisco and Intel
bo
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:51:49 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
>>> Plus, aren't you supposed to only unplug/plug a serial cable when it
>>> is off? I'm not sure if they are sensitive to that but pretty sure
>>> they were a long time ago.
>> Not sure about Serial, I always did e
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:51:49 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > Plus, aren't you supposed to only unplug/plug a serial cable when it
> > is off? I'm not sure if they are sensitive to that but pretty sure
> > they were a long time ago.
>
> Not sure about Serial, I always did even when switched on w
J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tue, September 18, 2012 9:03 am, Dale wrote:
>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On Mon, September 17, 2012 8:48 pm, Dale wrote:
I still have not hooked this thing up yet. We have storms predicted
here over the next couple days so I figure I will get a chance to
swit
On Tue, September 18, 2012 9:03 am, Dale wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On Mon, September 17, 2012 8:48 pm, Dale wrote:
>>> I still have not hooked this thing up yet. We have storms predicted
>>> here over the next couple days so I figure I will get a chance to
>>> switch
>>> whether I want to r
Am Mon, 17 Sep 2012 23:27:34 +0100
schrieb David W Noon :
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:17:47 -0400, Philip Webb wrote about Re:
> [gentoo-user] new machine : suddenly Python 3 appears:
>
> > 120917 Philip Webb wrote:
> > > 120917 David W Noon wrote:
> > >>print(' {0}'.format(eval(exp
J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Mon, September 17, 2012 8:48 pm, Dale wrote:
>> I still have not hooked this thing up yet. We have storms predicted
>> here over the next couple days so I figure I will get a chance to switch
>> whether I want to reboot or not. :/ I live close to the end of the
>> power
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