Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the >>> thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the >>> administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every >>> computer system to Gentoo. >> Check out distccd! > How does that help? Either every machine

Re: [gentoo-user] emerging mythtv? permission denied...

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-20-fixes/mythtv > svn: Can't open file '.svn/lock': Permission denied Speaking out of ignorance here, but I wonder if .svn/lock is a file on your local machine, or if it's on the svn server? I know nothing about svn, other t

Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-15 Thread Jeff Cranmer
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 09:48:10 am Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: > > I believe that I have this enabled, however ieee80211 is still barfing > > out by asking for CONFIG_NET_RADIO. > > > > I'll check and confirm this tonight. > > Also check bugzilla. I remember

Re: [gentoo-user] dd questions

2007-12-15 Thread Statux
[snip] > Followed by this: > > display all 902 possibilities (y or n) > > y > > and the screen filled up with an alphabetical list of > executable programs like ls, something-something.sh > etc. Which is strange because it was /home and > contained no files like that. > This is what happens w

[gentoo-user] dd questions

2007-12-15 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group, I moved a partition(about 60G) from one drive to another, slightly larger, using: dd if=/dev/hdc4 of=/dev/hdc6 bs=32k When the operation completed this appeared: 904017 +1 records in 1904017 record out numbers which are precisely 999,999 apart. What is that all about? Followed by

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 07:48:12AM -0800, Grant wrote > Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking > at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like > things being improved as quickly as possible. One item (amongst many) that chased me away from W

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't understand what's happening with "emerge gnupg"

2007-12-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:55:43 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > - why didn't portage replace the old version itself? That's generally > part of the update process. GnuPG is slotted, so 1.* and 2.* can be installed simultaneously. > - once I manually unmerged gnupg, what brings it back? I did

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't understand what's happening with "emerge gnupg"

2007-12-15 Thread Andrey Falko
On Dec 15, 2007 6:55 PM, Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just did an "emerge --sync", and checked what was available for > updateing... > > [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask --deep --update --world > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating world dependencie

[gentoo-user] I don't understand what's happening with "emerge gnupg"

2007-12-15 Thread Walter Dnes
I just did an "emerge --sync", and checked what was available for updateing... [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask --deep --update --world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20070724 [20070118] [ebuild

[gentoo-user] ipw in kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r9

2007-12-15 Thread Richard Watson
Hi - Can anyone give me pointers on how to get ipw2100-firmware working with kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r9? It works fine with kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r8 where it's compiled in the kernel but the same set-up fails in kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r9. When I run emerge ipw210

[gentoo-user] emerging mythtv? permission denied...

2007-12-15 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Hi there! I just tried to upgrade my mythtv installation, but the ebuild fails in the unpack phase with a permission denied-error when accessing the svn-repository: >>> Emerging (1 of 2) media-tv/mythtv-0.20.2_p14814 to / * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile checks

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:41:21 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > > Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the > > thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the > > administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every > > computer system to Gentoo. > > Check out distccd! How do

[gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-15 Thread reader
Randy Barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I mean if >> you connect it to any machine in the diagram or elsewhere wouldn't you >> be exposing that machine to the unfiltered internet? > > I think that's the idea here - to see the difference between the two > sides of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 15 December 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: > It's not too hard to start a separate instance of apache. You just > copy /etc/init.d/apache2 to, say, /etc/init.d/backuppcApache2. > Likewise copy the /etc/conf.d scripts, and change in the backuppc one > the reference to the httpd.conf to, sa

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel schedulers

2007-12-15 Thread forgottenwizard
On 15:27 Thu 13 Dec , Jason Carson wrote: > Greetings, > > Where in the kernel config (make menuconfig) do I find the choice for > schedulers. The one I am currently using is "Anticipatory". What is the > newest and latest scheduler for 2.6.23? > > Regards, > > Jason Carson > > -- > [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > (btw, do gentoo initscripts > support starting multiple instances of a daemon, perhaps under different > users and using different parameters? I'd not bet on it, but I may be > wrong. If it's not supported, waiting for baselayout to support this may > take a long time, so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I mean if > you connect it to any machine in the diagram or elsewhere wouldn't you > be exposing that machine to the unfiltered internet? I think that's the idea here - to see the difference between the two sides of the router. As far as getting that data safely in a vi

[gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-15 Thread reader
Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday 14 December 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> Would I likely be opening my lan up for some christmas shopping by >> >> having a gentoo guest on a WinXP host running as a DMZ machine? >> >> It would be pretty barebo

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread James
b.n. gmail.com> writes: > > I offered to take over the maintenance of the package and web installation > > page, and was turned down (probable by some punk under the age of 20) > Sad. Can you link the thread? I think that would be counter productive. It's the 'culture of gentoo' that en

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 15 December 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: > Yeah, that's the kinds of differences of opinion that are in the bug > report, which is part of what makes this a more difficult ebuild to > write. Things like libraries are really easy because it's just a > configure make make install, but here

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread James
Grant gmail.com> writes: > Multiple great ideas have already been suggested in this thread. Is > this the first time they've been conceived and shared? Why hasn't > work begun on them? Why isn't work completed on them? Because living > costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. > I've been in busin

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Grant
> > The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is Portage. > > There is only 1½ people working on it and changing anything in it is hard > > because Portage is a horrible mess. There's plenty of activity in the tree > > but new desired features cannot be used in the tree until Po

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Grant
> > So, what would need to happen for one of these projects to take off > > would be one or more people to be in charge of it and organize it, and > > they recruit as many people as possible to work on the project along > > with them? > > The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to suppor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > Ah ok, I just thought it would be easier, to get things going and catch > up with upstream, to release an ebuild that only supports the suid mode > of operation, and then, taking the necessary time, improve it in future > releases, rather than supporting all the features r

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 15 December 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: > Yes, I am aware of that. The BackupPC ebuild should support either > way, as there is a speedup of about 15x (according to the BackupPC > author) when running the webserver as user backuppc. There should be > a USE variable controlling this. A

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > (Apologies if this has already been mentioned) > Another (maybe less intrusive, although slightly less efficient) option > is to install the BackupPC_Admin CGI as setuid so that it runs as user > backuppc (this is how I run BackupPC-2.1.2-r1). This does not require a > dif

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 15 December 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: > One of the challenging things about the BackupPC ebuild is that the > program needs to be configured to work with its own instance of apache > (run as user backuppc), and I think none of the ebuild contributors > are all too sure of the standard

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Florian Philipp wrote: > Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the > thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the > administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every > computer system to Gentoo. Check out distccd! -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMA

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Network Trouble

2007-12-15 Thread Mick
On Saturday 15 December 2007, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007 3:46 PM, Kenneth Prugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you using the sky2 driver for your NIC by chance? > > Nope, I've tried a tulip and a 3COM NIC. Pretty run-of-the-mill. :-) Since you seem to have checked that the problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Randy Barlow
Hans de Graaff wrote: > A possible solution would be for you (or someone) to become a proxy > maintainer, meaning that you'd get the bug reports and provide new > ebuilds, and a developer (most likely someone from the backup herd) would > review it and put it in the tree. Hi Hans, thanks for th

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 15 December 2007 15:05:28 Grant wrote: > > Neil correctly translated my pseudo-English to what I actually meant. I > > don't want to make Portage binary based. I just want to make Portage's > > binary package support more conveniently usable on big networks. Even eclasses in the tree d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Grant
> >> > Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking > >> > at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like > >> > things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to > >> > be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't thi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-15 Thread Mick
On Friday 14 December 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Would I likely be opening my lan up for some christmas shopping by > >> having a gentoo guest on a WinXP host running as a DMZ machine? > >> It would be pretty barebones with a IPTABLE setup for logging and

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Grant
> > > > That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the > > > > laptop. The -K option comes to mind here. > > > > > > > > > > Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the > > > *-bin packages from portage, you are protected by the checksums in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Florian Philipp
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 07:06 -0600, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:55 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > > > > > That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the > > > laptop. The -K option comes to mind here. > > > > > > > Which is what I t

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:55 -0600, Dale wrote: > > >> That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the >> laptop. The -K option comes to mind here. >> > > Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the > *-bin package

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 15 December 2007 03:35:51 Grant wrote: > My ideas aren't really important unless they're everyone else's ideas > too. What is it exactly you want to achieve by starting these pointless threads? -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:55 -0600, Dale wrote: > That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the > laptop. The -K option comes to mind here. Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the *-bin packages from portage, you are protected by the che

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Ralf Stephan
> > I love gentoo and can't settle for anything else. What can I do to > > make sure development doesn't stop? > > Let me in on that. What can I do too? Help out with bugfixing by submitting patches or even just confirming bugs and supplying needed details? Join testing teams? Join the Weekly N

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Dale
Florian Philipp wrote: > On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 18:13 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Florian Philipp wrote: >> >>> Okay, here it goes: >>> >>> I think we could need a better support for binary packages. >>> There was a thread in here a few months ago about how to offer binary >>> packages for cust

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Florian Philipp
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 18:13 -0600, Dale wrote: > Florian Philipp wrote: > > > > Okay, here it goes: > > > > I think we could need a better support for binary packages. > > There was a thread in here a few months ago about how to offer binary > > packages for customers. As far as I remember the pr

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:05:08 +0100, b.n. wrote: > Florian Philipp ha scritto: > >> Other things to improve? A better documentation on USE-flags. In my >> opinion every maintainer should provide as much information as possible >> on what exactly a USE-flag changes. At the moment it's the >> admini

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules

2007-12-15 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:56:41 -0800, Grant wrote: >> > Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking >> > at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like >> > things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to >> > be the closest rela

[gentoo-user] Re: [Fwd: Re: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-15 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:07:53 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: >> My concerns with this, other than my abilities, are: > >> 1. Showing proper respect to the guy who pioneered the effort to date, >> and who may simply be out of town. (This disrespect would be alleviated >> if there