[gentoo-dev] festival use flag

2005-11-26 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, The following packages have festival as a use flag: media-plugins/mythphone:festival - Enable festival support media-radio/xastir:festival - Enable festival support I would like to add this use flag to app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher also.

[gentoo-dev] xinetd use flag and xinetd files being installed

2006-01-28 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 08:33:26PM -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: > How about the packages that don't even ask and just install logrotate > stuff? Like Apache, lighttpd, and mysql? What about xinetd? The same thing is happening there. I have some file

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 07:46:30AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > We already had this discussion. It's not that it's another file, it's > that it's another file in /etc, which is backed up and requires > administrator attention on every upgrade. Packa

[gentoo-dev] where to install source files for c++ templates

2006-02-13 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, I am working on version bumping app-accessibility/festival and app-accessibility/speech-tools. I can get them to build outside an ebuild fine, but I have found that festival #includes actual source files from speech-tools to instantiate c++ temp

[gentoo-dev] call for maintainer

2008-07-20 Thread William Hubbs
which I will assign to you. I don't recommend doing the voices as parts of the festival package itself though since you would need to do a rev bump every time one of the voices does another release. If you are interested in maintaining these, please let me know. Thanks, - -- William Hubbs g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-08 Thread William Hubbs
please respond to this thread, stating the > channel name, and that they are the contact for any problems/troubles. #gentoo-accessibility Thanks, - --- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

[gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-08-09 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, I have a couple of packages in the accessibility herd which I need a maintainer for. app-accessibility/festival app-accessibility/speech-tools If anyone is interested, please let me know. Thanks, - --- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-08-16 Thread William Hubbs
to add @system to the new > world_sets file in /var/lib/portage/. For more information on > world_sets see man portage. This brings up a question. I have been doing updates this way: emerge -NDu @installed Does that do the same thing? Thanks, - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-03-08 Thread William Hubbs
x27;) > econf \ > $(use_with x X) \ > $(use_with foo libfoo) \ > $(use_with bar) \ > $(use_with python pygtk) > I like this idea also, but I would prefer using something other than spaces in each argument, like so: econf \ $(us

[gentoo-dev] pybugz

2009-03-21 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, if you are following pybugz, we have moved development from google code (which is subversion) to github. The url for the page there is http://www.github.com/ColdWind/pybugz Thanks, - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi

Re: [gentoo-dev] On git and pushing official gentoo branches

2009-04-26 Thread William Hubbs
t use git diff to create patches to email upstream. - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn0xQgACgkQblQW9DDEZTgDCQCgjruR5O+qZihvyRks77B8f6fo VaIAn1uyNIRdwJaKVaTEG/yzWahBj/R2 =FdHj -END PGP SIGNATURE-

[gentoo-dev] rfc: pybugz command syntax

2009-05-10 Thread William Hubbs
ot;, etc to simplify the command line parsing code. Does anyone have an objection to something like this? - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoG87EACgkQblQW9DDEZThCCwCfY237fQy5GqcaR

[gentoo-dev] rfc: pybugz option conflict

2009-05-11 Thread William Hubbs
using --version in the post command to set the version that will be part of the bug. What do you think we could use for --version in the post command instead so that we can use --version to display the program version? - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: pybugz command syntax

2009-05-11 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:13:44PM +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > William Hubbs : > > I'm considering changing the pybugz command syntax to be som

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-14 Thread William Hubbs
s within the languages to tell which version of the compiler is compiling them as needed. So, If we say that, EAPI 4, for example, requires bash-4.0, Isn't there a way the PM could find out which version of bash is being run, compare that to the EAPI, then take appropriate action? - --

[gentoo-dev] EAPI Changes

2009-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
that is not stable or changing the files that are installed by the package, it is not necessary to do a rev bump just for changing the EAPI as long as you make sure that the ebuild emerges fine under the new EAPI. - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team l

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
something like this would be its use of grep and head, but these are both in the system set, so unless you don't want to depend on the system set, I don't know what the objection would be. - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org -BEGIN PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread William Hubbs
on to change EAPI once it is set, and eclasses shouldn't be changing it. - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoPAX8ACgkQblQW9DDEZTizJACfarJ8hZh4WQ7GC0kuraqTba9u FhkAn29jolc1O5D/jMWWA6TJaJcUZtbQ =529O -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 07:14:00PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 16 May 2009 13:10:07 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > > Agreed. The way I have always usedEAPI is, you set it once at the top > > of the EBUILD and you are

[gentoo-dev] rfc: information on localstatedir

2009-05-16 Thread William Hubbs
ticed, however, that econf passes --localstatedir=/var/lib to the configure script. The way around this was to pass the --localstatedir option to econf. My question for this list is, what is localstatedir supposed to be? - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org -BEGI

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: information on localstatedir

2009-05-17 Thread William Hubbs
es it matter? If > something is configurable like that, then it should work regardless of > what is put in. I guess it doesn't matter to me really; I was just looking for why we do it the way we do since one of the brltty devs "strongly recommended" that we change our build e

[gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-22 Thread William Hubbs
out speech software being on our minimal cd as well as our live cd? Thanks, - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoXDtYACgkQblQW9DDEZTgQcgCdG+nSnePDvIC/r9ahNDHQ84N5 56wAoJhjjorD5DbOdCs18W

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-22 Thread William Hubbs
nk it should go on both our live and minimal cds. - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoXLJ4ACgkQblQW9DDEZTjwAgCgp2PMFeflAQ+FFjyNJetsqnef TWgAoIOanI84dpjp0U3aicxQ77tLLKeG =T/3e -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-22 Thread William Hubbs
screen. Once that is done, someone could do something like this at the boot prompt: gentoo speakup.synth=synthname This will activate the speech and make sure X is not started. If speakup.synth=synthname is not on the command line, nothing will be affected. - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibilit

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-23 Thread William Hubbs
l that all of our release media should be accessible. Yes, there will be a size increase for the release media, but, unless the alsa modules and alsa-utils are over 15 mb, it will not be a 20 mb increase. - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoYpmQACgkQblQW9DDEZThbRwCdGswP4rJIEkREb54LG9Z3PjjH eF0AmQHXE6keEZDxA2r0bLe1rfakmR9C =ThQY -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-23 Thread William Hubbs
uce for the affected architectures instead of asking releng to produce a separate cd for each release or autobuild. - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoYr30ACgkQblQW9DDEZTglhgCgtLVGTtFjMCn3CsLxcAddj9iQ c7YAoLOnpvcO9aB+qeu+Ba19vPaPuxdN =heml -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-23 Thread William Hubbs
orry if I came across that way. I just wanted to make sure that everyone here knows that this isn't just something that would "help" blind users to be able to install our distro. It would do more than help, it would make it possible. :-) - -- William Hubbs gentoo accessi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Speech on the Gentoo Linux LiveCD

2009-05-24 Thread William Hubbs
> Feel free to email me if you folks want offf-list to discuss some of this. Keith, we are going to add both. Yes, there are some situations where hardware speech doesn't work, but because of speakup/espeakup's design, it is easy to add both. - -- William Hubbs gentoo acce

[gentoo-dev] maintainer needed for app-accessibility/festival and app-accessibility/speech-tools

2009-07-06 Thread William Hubbs
m the accessibility team member who joined to maintain them in many months. So, after several attempts to contact him, I am bringing these back to the list. If someone wants to maintain them, please contact me. Otherwise, I will send them to the last rights graveyard this coming weekend. Thanks, - -- Wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer needed for app-accessibility/festival and app-accessibility/speech-tools

2009-07-07 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 01:44:20PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > we have multiple open bugs for app-accessibility/festival and > app-accessibility/speech-tools. > > These packages are very difficult to maintain and upstream appears

[gentoo-dev] rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-24 Thread William Hubbs
All, in preparation to unmask udev-181, it was brought to my attention that a number of packages in the tree have direct dependencies on module-init-tools. Udev-181 requires kmod, which is a replacement for module-init-tools. I have added virtual/modutils to the tree which as of now prefers modul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 08:44:39AM +, Duncan wrote: > You are however correct that it'll be on most systems, at least with > udev-181, since udev won't build without kmod, now. (I found that out > when the build broke on me due to missing kmod, as I've had udev unmasked > for awhile and got

[gentoo-dev] newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-10 Thread William Hubbs
All, here is the udev 181 unmasking news item. If all goes well, this will be committed to the tree on 3/14 UTC. William Title: udev-181 unmasking Author: William Hubbs Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2012-03-14 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: =181, if you have /usr

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-11 Thread William Hubbs
Here is the latest version of the news item; this gives a few days notification before the unmasking. William Title: udev-181 unmasking Author: William Hubbs Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2012-03-14 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: =181, if you have /usr on a separate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 07:28:41PM -0800, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 3/10/12 6:53 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > neither the genkernel nor dracut docs have specific instructions about > > I guess we could pour more effort in getting dracut more easy to use > and/or try to figure out which are the item

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:28:19PM +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 11.3.2012 17.33, Zac Medico wrote: > > On 03/11/2012 04:03 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> The Display-If-Installed atom shows the news item to stable users once > >> it's committed. I am not sure at what point does Portage show it whe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 11.3.2012 23.43, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:28:19PM +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> On 11.3.2012 17.33, Zac Medico wrote: > >>> On 03/11/2012 04:03 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: &

[gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
All, I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the specific objections were. IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was chatting with another developer who uses /var/cache/portage/{tree,distfiles}, and I'm thinking about switching my default setup to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:20:45AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 28 March 2012 08:15, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > >> Then again, Gentoo is about choice.  It just seems like we're > >> presenting users with more choices than makes sense for a newbie.  If > >> there is a choice between something that

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs wrote: > /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* > /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/* > /var/cache/distfiles/* > /var/cache/packages/* These sub directories are all portage re

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:29:50AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > > > > /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* > > /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/* > > /var/cache/distfiles/* > > /var/cache/packages/* > > > > > Actually, now I think of it, repositories /might/ be suitable for > being under /db

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:47:10PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > >> On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs wrote: > >> /var/cache/repositori

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:19:10PM +0200, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 3/26/12 7:20 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." > > wrote: > >> I posted this issue here because it's not obvious what to do with it. > >> That version of pybugz worked for me be

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:37:15PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:19:10PM +0200, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > >> On 3/26/12 7:20 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> > On Mon, Ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-04-05 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all, here is a quick update on this: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 01:20:38PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." > wrote: > > I posted this issue here because it's not obvious what to do with it. > > That version of pybugz worked for me before (20 Febr

[gentoo-dev] pybugz call for testers

2012-04-10 Thread William Hubbs
All, I have updated pybugz- to work with the xmlrpc interface of bugzilla. I can name a couple of issues that are api limitations that we can't do anything about: - you can't add keywords to a bug with the post command, but you can with the modify command. - you can't search on cc: or key

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:04:22PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > New udev and separate /usr partition > > > > Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported configuration. > > If it is, newer

Re: [gentoo-dev] pybugz call for testers

2012-04-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:45:14PM +0200, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 4/10/12 7:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > I have updated pybugz- to work with the xmlrpc interface of > > bugzilla. > > Cool, thank you for working on that. > > > I can name a c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 09:09:03PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > On 04/10/2012 07:28 PM, Steven J Long wrote: > > I suppose you could script that, but again, it just seems like a lot of > > bother to implement an "alternative" that doesn't actually gain anything > > over the traditional setup (plus ma

[gentoo-dev] >= udev-182 tracker

2012-04-11 Thread William Hubbs
All, here is what I see on the current udev situation: The council has made a decision that we will continue supporting split out /usr. This, however, was never in question. No one is planning to drop support for separate /usr. Also, no one is planning on trying to force stabilize udev-182 with

Re: [gentoo-dev] >= udev-182 tracker

2012-04-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 09:58:47PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > Maybe we should create a new mailing list, say, > gentoo-usr-discuss...@lists.gentoo.org. No. I'm on enough mailing lists as is. :-) William pgpG9pgrCd8Qa.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making user patches globally available

2012-04-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 03:55:58PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > What if some patches are applied conditionally? imo patches that are applied conditionally should be rewritten so they can always be applied. patches that are applied conditionally probably won't get into upsream most of the time.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:26:07PM +, Duncan wrote: > Amadeusz Żołnowski posted on Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:45:36 +0200 as excerpted: > > > Excerpts from Duncan's message of 2012-04-27 15:38:20 +0200: > >> No distribution allowed. You're going to be doing restrict=mirror, > >> correct? > > > > Wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-29 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:00:26PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > finally, since the recent udev-mount init.d script is completely brain dead > and > refuses to execute unless devtmpfs is enabled, this code will also > automatically mount+seed /dev (via mdev) if need be. The recent udev-mount s

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-29 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:48:55AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > it leaves your system in a hard to recover state because you happened to > forget to check a filesystem option (which ironically isn't under Filesystems > in the kernel). it's piss-poor user facing behavior. Here's the situation.

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-30 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:00:59PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon > wrote: > > Binaries that are essential for system boot, and must be available in > > single user mode go in /bin and /sbin, with their libraries in /lib. > > This allows for /us

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-05-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:59:02AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > the fact that the script leaves your system in a hard to recover state is > what > i'm whining about, not that udev requires devtmpfs. So why did you decide to whine instead of opening a bug? :p > /dev/pts isn't created, thus dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-05-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 11:45:01AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 01 May 2012 11:06:42 William Hubbs wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:59:02AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > the fact that the script leaves your system in a hard to recover state is > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 06:23:36PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > Actually with all the hype about mdev these days, why not just use a 3 > year old version of udev (or maybe 4), that is probably what mdev is at > as far as functionality goes. Why not just fork udev from then and go > forward from that?

[gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
All, I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't updated the ChangeLog. I got into the habbit of using repoman commit -[Mm] to do that, but for some reason that stopped working. I will use echangelog from this ponit until I hear that repoman commit has been fixed. Thanks, William pgppTT

Re: [gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:37:39PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't updated the ChangeLog. > > I got into the habbit of using repoman commit -[Mm] to do that, but for > some reason that stopped working. > > I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 07:51:03PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:44:59AM +0200, Stelian Ionescu wrote > > On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 18:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26:03AM -0700, Greg KH wrote > > > > What specifically is your objection to udev

Re: [gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:15:28PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:37:39PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > >> All, > >> > >> I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't up

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stability of /sys api

2012-05-18 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Steven, On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 06:48:33AM +0100, Steven J Long wrote: > Thing is it runs before the real init[1] so if we are using a separate /usr > partition on LVM, will it still work? I'd have thought not, since we need > the device-mapper service and there's /etc/lvm.conf to consider, b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 01:07:08AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: > I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git > Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems > and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's > good enough for you. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:37:55PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:25:54 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 01:07:08AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: > > > I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git > >

[gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC Networking Scripts

2012-05-26 Thread William Hubbs
All, I realize this has been discussed and there are definite opinions about which method works well. So, I want to take a different approach. Is there any interest in documenting and supporting newnet along side oldnet as opposed to killing newnet? Newnet would consist of the "network" init scr

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC Networking Scripts

2012-05-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:49:07AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 26/05/12 03:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > > > I realize this has been discussed and there are definite opinions > > about wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Enable FEATURES="userpriv usersandbox" by default?

2012-05-29 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 03:46:39PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > How about introducing e.g. FEATURES="nouserpriv", and make the current > userpriv behavior the default? No. Please stay away from things like this. It is reverse logic and can be very confusing. Just adding "-userpriv" to your fea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 01:48:29PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > 1. > > Discussion on merge policy. Originally I thought we would disallow merge > > commits, so that we would get a cleaner history. However, it turns out that > > if > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 07:13:42PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > - You have a commit, that you want to put into the Gentoo tree. > - You have already pushed it to your github, signed If I have a github tree, that would probably be because I didn't have push access to the official tree, so signi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 08:26:58PM +, Duncan wrote: > William Hubbs posted on Thu, 31 May 2012 14:54:50 -0500 as excerpted: > > I don't know what's going to happen to all the overlays with the main > tree switch to git, but won't that break various "overlay

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 03:58:43PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > What would git signing work with rebased commits? Would all of them > > have to be signed once again? > > > > The whole point of rebasing is to throw away history (which is eit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 08:23:31PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:18:04 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > Not sure I'm following, but I will be the first to admit that I'm a > > > git novice. Would this be aided by a convention, like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-06-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 12:57:10PM +, Duncan wrote: > William Hubbs posted on Thu, 31 May 2012 15:57:14 -0500 as excerpted: > > Overlays aren't really part of this discussion; those are independent > > trees which we have no control over, so commiting changes from overlays

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-06-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 04:33:35PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 10:45:48AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > Overlays are completely separate repositories. There is nothing stopping > > an overlay from using git right now even if the main tree isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Kernel compiles and you

2012-07-04 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 02:20:36PM -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/04/2012 01:58 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 19:46:47 +0200 > > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > >> Recently, I have again bumped into the question w

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 07:57:50PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 12:54:31 -0400 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:18:00 +0200 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > The former two were previously provided by 'extras' USE flag, > > > and the third was uncondition

[gentoo-dev] rfc: old udev versions

2012-07-10 Thread William Hubbs
All, the last thread started by mgorny has prompted me to ask here on the list which versions of udev we really need in the tree. I know that all versions before 133 must go because openrc has a requirement for at least that version. I've looked at the kernel packages we have in /usr/portage, bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, all. > > Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two > libudev providers: >=sys-apps/systemd-185 and sys-fs/udev. Making > the long story short, I would like to introduce a virtual for libudev > which wou

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: old udev versions

2012-07-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:42:04PM +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 11 July 2012 02:30, William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > > > the last thread started by mgorny has prompted me to ask here on the > > list which versions of udev we really need in the tree. > > Per

[gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-11 Thread William Hubbs
All, I am about to release udev-186-r1, which will move everything currently in /lib/udev to /usr/lib/udev. For packages that install udev rules in ${FILESDIR}, we need an eclass that tests the version of udev installed on the user's system and installs the udev rules in the proper place. I'm not

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:27:41PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > Just to put a number to this, there are currently 126 packages in the > tree with a dependency on sys-fs/udev. > > Personally, I think a consolidated systemd/udev package is the best > way to go here. Short of that, the virtual + bloc

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 04:33:44PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > Thinking on this, I agree with Mike here, and to make it easier for > > maintainers so they don't have to change their dependencies, it should > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 02:11:42PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > I am about to release udev-186-r1, which will move everything currently > in /lib/udev to /usr/lib/udev. > > For packages that install udev rules in ${FILESDIR}, we need an eclass > that tests the version of

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:57:42PM +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il 11/07/2012 21:11, William Hubbs ha scritto: > > I am about to release udev-186-r1, which will move everything currently > > in /lib/udev to /usr/lib/udev. > > Unless you're going to establish a sym

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-11 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 04:59:11PM -0400, Alexis Ballier wrote: > How do you plan to handle the following: > - foo installs an udev rule > - install foo with old udev > - upgrade udev > > are rules installed by foo used by new udev ? No, they wouldn't be; that is a good reason to question the va

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 04:22:20PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:11:42 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > # @FUNCTION: _udev_get_rulesdir > > # @INTERNAL > > # @DESCRIPTION: > > # Get unprefixed udev rules directory. > > _udev_get_ru

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev <-> mdev

2012-07-12 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all, On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 04:07:41PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:37:33AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote > > First a disclaimer... I am not a C programmer, let alone a developer. > I feel like I've been dragged into this kicking and screaming in order > to save th

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread William Hubbs
All, mgorny has written a patch for udev, which if it gets accepted, will make it read rules from /lib/udev/rules.d, so there will be nothing that we need to do on our side at all. William pgpBzeeg8CYM1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:13:43PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > > > mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. > > > > I think that's quite unlikely, since mde

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 05:20:13PM -0400, Richard Yao wrote: > An often cited benefit of the /usr merge is the ability to put > everything but /etc on NFS and for that reason, we need to force an > initramfs on people happily using /usr without it. This is not quite correct. The initramfs is req

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 06:41:26PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > In any case, it sounds like for now some devs are continuing to adjust > ebuilds to keep a separate /usr working as well as possible, though it > apparently breaks in some edge cases right now without an initramfs, > as you've already

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 06:13:06PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > William Hubbs wrote: > > > > This is not quite correct. The initramfs is required because of [1]. > > > > > > William > > > > Where is [1]? [1] http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/syst

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:19:48PM -0400, Richard Yao wrote: > On 07/17/2012 07:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > This is basically not relevant since we do not support HURD. > > It is relevant because it guarantees that the GNU stuff in @system will > continue working. That allow

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:03PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > On 2012-07-17, at 7:07 PM, Olivier Crête wrote: > > > I'm sure most people can't > > even explain the difference between them. > > > > /sbin is for bins that only root should be able to run. easy. :) Not quite, check out t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-18 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 08:13:51PM +0400, Hobbit wrote: > > Why should we care about ancient filesystems that didn't supported > > long paths, and therefore we got stuck with /usr since we didn't > > wanted to waste another *single* character to make it /user? > > Because of it's original name: "U

[gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc init scripts taking command line arguments

2012-07-18 Thread William Hubbs
All, I have received a request to allow OpenRC's init scripts to take command line arguments [1]. As noted on the bug, there are some advantages to this, but implementing it would have to break backward compatibility, for example: /etc/init.d/foo stop start would no longer work the way you might

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc init scripts taking command line arguments

2012-07-18 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 03:58:18PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > > William Hubbs wrote: > >> /etc/init.d/foo stop start > >> > >> would no longer work the way you might expect because there would be no > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc init scripts taking command line arguments

2012-07-18 Thread William Hubbs
Folks, let's move all of the discussion of this to the bug if possible so that it is all in one place. Thanks, William pgpw1garAIRzQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

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