Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread George Prowse
Actually "staff" gives the ideal ambiguity that is needed for these placements. The need to seperate developers from staff who have seperate jobs to do is an acute one. At the moment the @gentoo.org address is seen as a developer one but as you mentioned the word "staff" is already used to descri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread George Prowse
The only reason any of this is coming up is because some wanted to keep the .g.org addresses to the developer staff. If the CVS access is read only and they are working for gentoo what difference would it make? This would sort out the AT and forums question in one swoop. George On 11/19/05, Grant

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-18 Thread George Prowse
Having organised several Gentoo UK meetings I would like to be advised if anyone has a problem; especially if they dont come or have no idea when, where or what they are. George ProwseOn 11/18/05, Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Chris,Sorry for the delay in replying.  Having a few rel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread George Prowse
As these would be @gentoo.org people they would be easier for devrel to tackle. Making them closer under the gentoo wing just makes them easier to dicipline.On 11/19/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:34:10 -0800 Corey Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:| Why not di

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread George Prowse
idea but it would eventually mean that the ATs would get the job of testing the packages that the users say are ok so that the devs can concentrate on bugsOn 11/19/05, Corey Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 18 November 2005 07:01 pm, George Prowse wrote:> As these would be @g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread George Prowse
5, Corey Shields < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Friday 18 November 2005 07:40 pm, George Prowse wrote: > Yeah, I think a sub-domain may not be a good solution but unfortunately it> is the best at present. The site is a good idea but nothing stops it fromI disagree that it is the best idea..  

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread George Prowse
On 19/11/05, Sven Vermeulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've said it in the first meeting and I'll reiterate: what is the sentiment > of the arch testers in this case (if they are still reading this thread)? > Anything that makes us do our job better and makes our lives easier is a good thing. Tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread George Prowse
On 19/11/05, George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19/11/05, Sven Vermeulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've said it in the first meeting and I'll reiterate: what is the sentiment > > of the arch testers in this case (if they are still reading this

Re: Re[6]: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation

2005-11-22 Thread George Prowse
No stage 1 or 2? Excellent. People seem to wear Stage 1 like a badge of honour but never seem to realise that the earlier you play around with your system the deeper the mistakes. Why are the instructions for the stage 1 and 2 in the handbook at all? They should be in Gentoo dev space and the only

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-22 Thread George Prowse
Is it possible to have the font from the original Aaron Shi design? George -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] R/O CVS access and its purpose for ATs (was Email subdomain)

2005-11-24 Thread George Prowse
On 23/11/05, Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Ostrow wrote: > > > Lance: > > > > I know this is a far cry from what you are proposing, and I understand > > that the present CVS server cannot handle this sort of load but I > > believe that this was the original intention at least.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

2005-11-24 Thread George Prowse
On 24/11/05, lnxg33k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:49:18 +0100 Filip Bartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > | I want have Gentoo in e-shop with Linux distributions. I find, that > > | Gentoo is under GNU/GPL. Must I distribute in e-shop sources

[gentoo-dev] vendors.gentoo.org

2005-12-05 Thread George Prowse
Is vendors.gentoo.org going to have the new redesign that curtis119 is implementating? It seems that it is on a different server and vhost and is maintained by someone other than Ian! now. Does it have a future under the Gentoo umbrella? George

[gentoo-dev] Creating a Sketeton System

2005-12-11 Thread George Prowse
After some talk in the forums a point came up that we need a way to reduce the long used gentoo system to a bare point before X but after any baselayout upgrade had been applied. This script would enable two things: a person to rebuild his system after a library malfunction and also if a person wan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Creating a Sketeton System

2005-12-12 Thread George Prowse
On 12/12/05, Andrew Muraco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: George Prowse wrote:> After some talk in the forums a point came up that we need a way to> reduce the long used gentoo system to a bare point before X but after> any baselayout upgrade had been applied. Isn't that what the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Creating a Sketeton System

2005-12-15 Thread George Prowse
reinstalling as you would basically have an upgraded stage 3 after some unmergingOn 12/12/05, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: George Prowse wrote:> yes but if you extracted a stage on to an already built system you would> not only have the the mess there that you wanted to get rid of b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Searching for a person who can advice me

2006-02-23 Thread George Prowse
Pick an area to help in and help with it (file bug reports, submit patches, comment on mailing lists). If people notice you are working well towards a specific area you are far more likely to be mentored. Ask this question to a developer in a few months time, one who you have a rapport with. George

Re: [gentoo-dev] beep-media-player removal: 04/03/2006

2006-02-23 Thread George Prowse
No, BPMx and Audacious are two different thingshttp://audacious-media-player.org/FAQ#1.4On 22/02/06, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 22 February 2006 19:34, Stephen P. Becker wrote:> Ugh, it looks like this new 'BMPx' branch uses gstreamer. Is there no> way to kee

Re: [gentoo-dev] New forums staffer: kernelsensei (Boris Fersing)

2006-02-23 Thread George Prowse
Oh no! Not kernelsensei!!!On 23/02/06, Boris Fersing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2006/2/23, Peter Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 22:48 +0100, Wernfried Haas wrote:> > Boris is one of the people taking care of the French forum and now has > > joined the official Gentoo ranks.> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-based sysadmin job

2006-02-28 Thread George Prowse
Would we be required to fix the mess left by the previous sys-admin? :pGeorgeOn 28/02/06, Rob Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Hi peeps,LINX (http://www.linx.net ) are looking for a sys-admin with excellentGentoo knowledge. Hardened toolchain and/or grsec experience areconsidered a big plus.You w

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Gentoo doc developer: Josh Saddler (nightmorph)

2006-03-09 Thread George Prowse
Peter, the least you could do is take your boyfriend somewhere nice... ;)On 09/03/06, Peter Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Another Southern Californian, it would seem. Excellent. If you're ever in the Anaheim/Orange County Area give me a jingle. We could go for someStarbucks and head to Fry's or

Re: [gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: OSL outage

2006-03-13 Thread George Prowse
I cant pick up my -dev emails because of this outageGeorgeOn 13/03/06, Lars Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/03/13 15:46 +0100]: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 08:34:59AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:> > [..] the database server is not working (bugs/forums/etc).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread George Prowse
On 20/03/06, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:07:37 + Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:| One of the bigger problems is that we have a huge user community who| are keen on contributing, but we have such a high barrier for entry | to the developer community.

[gentoo-dev] Not offering help to certain parts of society

2006-04-01 Thread George Prowse
I have always respected Gentoo for it's ability to be completely helpful for people no matter what their circumstances but i fear we are pushing a secion of society away. We offer forums, mailing lists and the distribution itself in a variety of languages, we have attempted to port portage to vario

Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-08 Thread George Prowse
On 08/05/06, Curtis Napier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been around since the beginning and have fond memories of Larryjust like the rest of you. I wasn't planning on getting rid of him. In fact, I was planning on using him a little more for other things. Ialready used him for a custom error pag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread George Prowse
Why risk anything by changing the tree to suit the package? It just seems like asking for trouble. The overlay ability is there for a reason. Paludis isn't being used and should be kept out of the sphere of users use until it is usable, wont break systems and is trustworthy enough to be near the tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread George Prowse
On 17/05/06, Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:25:08 +0100"George Prowse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Why risk anything by changing the tree to suit the package?We're not risking anything, except upsetting a few people. We're

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread George Prowse
On 17/05/06, Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:57:51 +0100"George Prowse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> So good working practice is to introduce a variable where breakages > could come from two directions rather than stick with what wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] I'm retiring

2006-05-17 Thread George Prowse
On 17/05/06, Rob Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey all,As I've done very little Gentoo work in last few months and havegenerally lost interest in Gentoo, I'll be retiring.If you need to reach me you can find me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or onIRC where I'll continue to sit in #gentoo-audit.Credit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Alternative Gentoo package managers discussion request (for the council)

2006-05-17 Thread George Prowse
On 18/05/06, Christel Dahlskjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 00:23 +0100, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:> On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 17:38 -0400, Mark Loeser wrote:> > As the latest long thread has shown, there seems to be a split (it is hard to> > tell exactly) on whether or not altern

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: 259 paludis-profile messages. ENOUGH!

2006-05-18 Thread George Prowse
On 18/05/06, Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1On Thu, 18 May 2006 17:08:17 -0400Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> On Thu, 18 May 2006 22:01:42 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> > Then learn how to use your mail client.> >> > And hey, look, by startin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-15 Thread George Prowse
On 15/06/06, Kevin F. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:31:41 -0400Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> So apparently they suck, anyone have a new shiny idea on how to group> packages and maintaining developers? We could be boring and change "herd" to "packagegroup".--Kevin

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Forums Staff : NeddySeagoon

2006-06-16 Thread George Prowse
On 15/06/06, Curtis Napier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shyam Mani wrote:> Hi everyone,>> Please take a moment to welcome our latest addition to the Forums gang,> Roy Bamford aka NeddySeagoon.Thanks for volunteering your time Roy, we will all benefit from your extensive knowledge and your patience wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread George Prowse
On 19/06/06, Tobias Klausmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Caleb Tennis wrote: > I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments > to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, > but for the ease of time I'm suggesting that perhaps we open u

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-20 Thread George Prowse
Personally I dont think it would be worth having the whole GWN on the forums, if people dont read it in the email or online then putting it on the forums isn't going to make them start reading it. What the forum does allow is for people to suggest stories, give suggestions for tips and tricks and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread George Prowse
Josh Saddler wrote: Denis Dupeyron wrote: Alright. Then I'll nominate all members of the current council. In alphabetical order: amne betelgeuse dberkholz flameeyes jokey lu_zero vapier Seconded. Thirded -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread George Prowse
Alex Howells wrote: 2008/6/3 George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Thirded Someone can clarify but don't you need to be a Foundation member to nominate or support nominations? Either way, all of the current Council get my nomination, plus welp gets a second. Anyone can nomina

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread George Prowse
Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Tue, 03 Jun 2008, George Prowse wrote: Someone can clarify but don't you need to be a Foundation member to nominate or support nominations? [...] Anyone can nominate but only members get a vote. GLEP 39 says something else: | * Council members will be chos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-05 Thread George Prowse
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 11:31 +0100, George Prowse wrote: Alex Howells wrote: 2008/6/3 George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Thirded Someone can clarify but don't you need to be a Foundation member to nominate or support nominations? Either way, all of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread George Prowse
Alex Howells wrote: In short: vote for me if you want less bullshit, less asshats and a more fun distribution. That is all. Damn! Astinus for PM! :) -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Council Idea

2008-06-06 Thread George Prowse
I have an strange idea, it will probably get shot down by everyone or people will point out that it has been discussed and thought it was a bad idea but anyway... ...why not invite a developer from another distribution to join the council? I think inviting co-operation from other areas would o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread George Prowse
Ferris McCormick wrote: I also nominate: NeddySeagoon Regards, Ferris I completely agree. Few people have done more behind the scenes as Roy. I would also like to nominate zmendico for his excellent work with portage. George -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-12 Thread George Prowse
Luca Barbato wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Package manager maintainers refusing to do basic testing before claiming support for a new EAPI has very messy consequences. If package manager maintainers aren't going to do the responsible thing, the whole point of EAPIs is lost. Thats a circular ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-12 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:32:35 +0100 George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If the bickering is stopping development then maybe it should be given to a 3rd party to complete and have the last word. Considering third parties have at best contributed a few small p

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-12 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:56 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd honestly like to see an official PMS project page i.e. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pms/ There's http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/pms.xml . Unfortunately, rane decided to go and vandalise i

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-12 Thread George Prowse
Thomas Anderson wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:11:51PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:56 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd honestly like to see an official PMS project page i.e. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pms/ T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2008/2009 Nominations end TODAY 23:59 UTC

2008-06-18 Thread George Prowse
Although he has been nominated already and thus declined I would still like amne to change his mind and run for council again. George -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-18 Thread George Prowse
++ It's about time someone said this and I honestly think that lots of developers will be thinking the same. In the end, PMS is just a way for them to spread their own agenda and force it on both the developers and the users so maybe it would be best for all if paludis and it's developers we

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 Ivan Chernyavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Recently I've subscribed to this list because I thought this is the right way to start being involved in Gentoo development process --- I thought technical discussions are of most importance her

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:48:02 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 | * have some insane paranoid conviction that Freenode staff are the | ones busy spying on everything they say, whilst con

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

2008-08-11 Thread George Prowse
On 11 Aug 2008, at 14:19, Patrick Lauer wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:51:11 -0700 "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Despite our best efforts Gentoo is not a fun-loving community where everyone gets along. Actually, I'd say that's a fairly accurate description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread George Prowse
Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you said about the state of things because i've got the distinct impression from others that Gentoo h

[gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-04 Thread George Prowse
Thomas Sachau wrote: Mario Fetka schrieb: On Monday, 4. May 2009 19:06:12 George Prowse wrote: Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-04 Thread George Prowse
Mounir Lamouri wrote: George Prowse wrote: I think you are missing the point. If you sit and wait for them to join you will always be understaffed. Go on a big dev drive! Announce it all over all the Gentoo's normal communication channels and other generic linux places! Email some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread George Prowse
Markos Chandras wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 19:26:00 Thomas Anderson wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:06:43PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 16:50:47 Richard Freeman wrote: Arch teams seem to be generally doing a good job keeping up with STABLEREQs on the major archs -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-05 Thread George Prowse
Thomas Sachau wrote: George Prowse schrieb: Thomas Sachau wrote: For those, who can work with IRC and are interested in working with ebuilds, there is already an option: Join #gentoo-dev-help or even better #gentoo-sunrise and read the documentation from the topic. The Sunrise Overlay (with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-05 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 21:47:08 +0100 George Prowse wrote: If you make it a big and special occasion which is planned correctly with a sufficient number of current developers who are willing to walk people through how and what it means to be a Gentoo Developer then the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-07 Thread George Prowse
Arttu V. wrote: On 5/7/09, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: There's no reason that can't be done via email, and throwing in some live commit feed action might make it a bit interesting. =:^) I'm sensing a sort of a "patches welcome" attitude from the crowd, i.e., not falling for a hard sel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-11 Thread George Prowse
Thilo Bangert wrote: to me, the above two contradictory viewpoints are the essence of the apparent and real decline in Gentoo activity. The two are just not compatible with each other and there is no clear guidance on to which of the two should be followed. in the one corner we have the 'Dani

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-11 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 11 May 2009 23:17:32 +0100 George Prowse wrote: An equilibrium seems to have been reached which currently works. An equilibrium has been reached, agreed, but that it works is up for debate. There is a strong argument to be made that preserving the equilibrium

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-14 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009 20:06:51 +0200 Patrick Lauer wrote: "You need to know the EAPI to parse the ebuild to find the EAPI" Obviously that's not true, because somehow we manage at the moment. And if one does a small restriction (which doesn't restrict current behaviour becau

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread George Prowse
Wulf C. Krueger wrote: I think it would be in the best interest of both Exherbo and Gentoo to elect gentoofan23, betelgeuse, dev-zero, peper, calchan and dertobi123 to the Gentoo Council. Why is Exherbo's interests anything to do with Gentoo's? Does this happen with Sabayon or SystemRescueCd

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread George Prowse
Alistair Bush wrote: As our closest relative ( of any distro ) You mean apart from all the other Gentoo based distros?

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:31:43 +0100 George Prowse wrote: > This strengthening bridge of understanding can be seen in dev- > zero's move to appoint ciaranm as his proxy for today's council > meeting. If a doctor loses his right to practice medicine

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:46:27 +0100 George Prowse wrote: I'm sure getting personal about subjects on a Gentoo mailing list will endear yourself to everyone. Uh, isn't that exactly what you're doing? Nope, I never mentioned anything personal about you,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo

2012-06-21 Thread George Prowse
The Reg has a story on this from a blog post by Red Hat. It may be worth a read: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/18/windows_8_linux_secure_boot/

Re: [gentoo-dev] A friendly reminder: Ciaran McCreesh is not a Gentoo dev

2012-06-22 Thread George Prowse
On 22/06/2012 07:40, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:01:15 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: Just a short note as it seems some confusion arises lately: Ciaran McCreesh is not a Gentoo dev and his words don't represent the position of Gentoo development team. Right. Doesn't that make m

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread George Prowse
On 05/07/06, Curtis Napier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 01 July 2006 02:46, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating >> people for the next Gentoo Council > > i guess i'll start off some mass nominations of ra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Off with your heads!

2006-07-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/07/06, Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 20:46 -0600, Steve Dibb wrote: > @devs, > > If your blog is being aggregated on Planet Gentoo / Universe, it's time to send > us a copy of your smiling face. I'm putting out a request for some > hackergotchis. Real

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future developer

2006-07-15 Thread George Prowse
On 30/06/06, Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm proud to announce the arival of a future developer. His name is "Tom". He arived last monday on 10:22 am (UTC+02). I and my wife will take care of mentoring him to full developership ;-). In the meantime, he's got his own album on http:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event

2006-07-25 Thread George Prowse
On 25/07/06, Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 05:34:31PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > Dunno about other folks, but I'd be very happy to see us return to the > Resource Centre once more. I thought that it worked well as a venue, > and that London is the right pl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event

2006-07-26 Thread George Prowse
On 25/07/06, Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 10:04:17AM -0700, Joshua Jackson wrote: > hmm, that returned nothing *hides the cash in my pocket* guess you > didn't define the project, and your loss is my gain ;) Ooops - well, just don't spend it all at once. che

Re: [gentoo-dev] New(-ish) developer - Elfyn McBratney

2006-08-07 Thread George Prowse
On 07/08/06, Christel Dahlskjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is my pleasure to introduce to you... the artist formerly known as... beu! Many will know Elfyn from his previous stint as a Gentoo developer. This time around, we have a understanding.. the sort that involves sleeping with fish and f

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Forums Staff : jmbsvicetto

2006-08-20 Thread George Prowse
On 20/08/06, Mark Kowarsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please welcome our latest forums staff, Jorge Vicetto aka jmbsvicetto. > /me hugs Jorge. Glad to have you on board. Mark All we need now is to find out how to pronounce your name George -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Why you use Gentoo

2006-09-10 Thread George Prowse
On 10/09/06, Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if > you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't > need to be fancy, you can put "community" or something if that's all > you want. All responses off list please

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-11 Thread George Prowse
On 11/09/06, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:01:02 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Stuart Herbert wrote: | > On 9/11/06, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | >> Uhm, web-apps has been CCed on the bug since the beginning. Last | >> time I asked, n

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Tristan Heaven (nyhm)

2006-09-26 Thread George Prowse
Oh goodie another person who just likes to "act like a developer" but really wants to just play games like Wolf. *wink* Welcome aboard Tristan enjoy being a slave to the people now MUAHHAHAHAHAHAH. Heh, i can vouch for nyhm... he spends far too much time playing on IRC and doing nothing to be pl

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-09-30 Thread George Prowse
Lionel Bouton wrote: Hi, I just had an unpleasant experience with -ffast-math and GCC 4.1.1 (it borked my LDAP authentication on several systems which worked with the same CFLAGS as long as GCC 3.4.6 was used). There is a lot of material out there about CFLAGS and Gentoo (google returns 387000 p

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Devrel Subproject: Gentoo Devmatch

2006-10-23 Thread George Prowse
Dan Meltzer wrote: How much would gentoo make in a ciaran vs. devrel fight? I want to see results on my money though! I dont want to have to wait a year like last time! George -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New Devrel Subproject: Gentoo Devmatch

2006-10-23 Thread George Prowse
Elfyn McBratney wrote: On 23/10/06, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:55:15 +0100 "Stuart Herbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On 10/23/06, Caleb Cushing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > > | > > Weapons allowed? | > | > melee weapons only, maybe? | | Guns for show

[gentoo-dev] Package Removal

2006-10-23 Thread George Prowse
A user has stated this in a thread. Could someone respond please? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-510146.html "I suggest that the devs don't hard mask packages, especially ones depended on by several other ebuilds, until notice has been given in the GWN's pending package removal section.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package Removal

2006-10-23 Thread George Prowse
Dan Meltzer wrote: I think you gave the wrong forum link :) On 10/23/06, George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A user has stated this in a thread. Could someone respond please? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-510146.html "I suggest that the devs don't hard mask pack

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: remove my address

2006-10-24 Thread George Prowse
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:53, Drake Wyrm wrote: I think someone is yanking your chain, vapier. i doubt it ... other people on irc mentioned receiving said e-mail as well Haven't seen said email here... George -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME 1.x and GNOME 1.x dependent package masking

2006-11-08 Thread George Prowse
Seemant Kulleen wrote: Saleem & Gnome Team, I think it's high time this was done. My suggestion would be to publicise this *beyond* just the gentoo-dev list. I would put this on -user and in the forums (and one of you should probably blog before the fact as well). Thanks, Agreed. Can the or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-29 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:01:11 + "Stuart Herbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On 11/29/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > As of this release, I kept a copy of all of the distfiles for the | > entire release, and can make a DVD of it, on request. This |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Big change ideea/Fix Gmail

2006-12-06 Thread George Prowse
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:11:29 +0200, Alexandru Mincu wrote: I sent this earlier and it wasn't received so I resend it now... It was received, but you didn't see it because you are using GMail, which treated it as a duplicate of the mail you'd sent. I have to ask, is ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] Big change ideea/Fix Gmail

2006-12-06 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:17:23 +1100 George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I have to ask, is there a way to stop this action because it is very | annoying. Don't use GMail? If only other annoying things were so easy to fix... tell me about it --

Re: [gentoo-dev] The long story behind our new developer: Peter Weller (welp)

2006-12-19 Thread George Prowse
Markus Ullmann wrote: ... Welcome welp, hopefully I wont have to ssh install for you anymore... ;) George -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-11 Thread George Prowse
Chris Gianelloni wrote: The Gentoo Council is looking for some ideas for some small projects that we could initiate that would help Gentoo. These project ideas should be things that are attainable in a measurable amount of time, and should be fairly small in scope. This would be in the same vei

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slacker archs

2007-02-20 Thread George Prowse
Bryan Østergaard wrote: On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 11:46:32AM +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote: Ciaran McCreesh ha scritto: It is widely perceived that Gentoo has a huge problem with slacker archs cluttering up the tree and making maintainers' work harder. Clearly, something needs to be done

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing Daniel Robbins (drobbins)

2007-02-27 Thread George Prowse
Daniel Robbins wrote: Hey all, and thanks for the welcome back. It was a bit strange to find old stuff from 2005 in my dev.gentoo.org homedir. Sort of like a time capsule :) -Daniel Get it in the tree quickly!!! Anyway, good to see you back mate. George -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread George Prowse
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: Hiya all, As some of you are already aware, I was at the last Council meeting given a Task. This Task was to draft a proposed Code of Conduct for Gentoo, and a scheme for enforcing it. The current version of this proposal can be found at http://dev.gentoo.org/~christe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread George Prowse
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 16:00 +0100, Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen wrote: Uhh, no. This gets enforced on devs and users alike. I wouldn't bring it up in the first place, but we've had previous examples with devs calling other devs not so kind things and to my knowle

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-14 Thread George Prowse
Ferris McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:30:32 -0500 Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Personally I understand why flameeyes took that to bugzilla; how else could he say he'd gone thru the appropri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why I don't think the CoC is a good idea

2007-03-14 Thread George Prowse
Luca Barbato wrote: Alexandre Buisse wrote: I'm sorry to have been so long (and I have a lot more to say!) but this is more or less why I think both the idea and its proposed implementation are bad and will ultimately hurt us. I do agree and I add that this current thread so far is a g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's problems

2007-03-14 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: That's just it. Portage needs to deliver major visible improvements at the user level for Gentoo to get anywhere. Managing a Gentoo system is much harder now than it was a few years ago, but the tools are largely the same. What on earth is going to be a "major visible im

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-14 Thread George Prowse
Stephen Bennett wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:35:14 + George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So you'd rather let one of the best employees go rather than chastise a worker who is leaving soon? Thats just cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'd rather ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's problems

2007-03-15 Thread George Prowse
Caleb Cushing wrote: What on earth is going to be a "major visible improvement" to a command line based package manager that any average Gentoo user is going to realise? The average user probably only uses a few commands: emerge -u/p/a/v/--sync/package/world/system and then u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-15 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:30:11 + George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd rather make it known that that sort of backhanded tactics to get rid of someone you don't like won't work whoever uses them. You would certainly make tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why I don't think the CoC is a good idea

2007-03-15 Thread George Prowse
Caleb Cushing wrote: I have no idea if it's possible but if a topic is deemed to be off topic then can any further replies with that subject be forwarded automatically to another address like gentoo-dev-offtopic so they dont go to gentoo-dev? I believe you can change the de

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