Hi Robin,
first of all.
What I need is _basic_ respect on #gentoo-dev
You here seem all polite, but there you like playing me.
This is not a good start.
On 3/13/08, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:24:23AM +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> >
k
publicly here, without hiding in a development channel, we probably
get more visibility, don't we?
I will review your stuff on lzo probably tomorrow, hope won't be a problem.
On 3/13/08, Fabio Erculiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Robin,
> first of all.
> What
can fix it?
> no, i'm too busy and you guys are slow. give me cvs access.
> uh no?
> you're stupid.
>
>
>
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> mips, treecleaner,for a fact or just f
of me. I really admire the commitment of some of
you and it's the only thing that led me coming here to talk.
BTW, It's funny to see the difference of attitudes from here and IRC,
let me underline that :) So this is a neutral ground.
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cation of the perceived
> problems?
>
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> Release Engineering Strategic Lead
> Games Developer
>
>
Yeah, but IIRC you are a SOURCE distro builder. Arent't you? (I am just asking!)
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to people.
>
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> Chris Gianelloni
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> Games Developer
Oh so the stupid is me. True true...
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s and maintaining in an overlay it's
not that hard.
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> interestingly enough ixnay...I've tri
at least have been a little more subtle and a
> little less self congratuling, maybe it would have worked, who knows :)
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aware of :) zmedico has
been really helpful :)
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> | I never had issues with my emails. So I don't really know what to
&
t one evidence here:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728 :)
I've also found a lot of files collisions, especially on scientific
applications. I'll try to file a huge bug for that too, but it'll take
a lot of time.
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ependency" syntax?
>
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> (Gentoo KDE Project lead)
>
>
Thanks in advance
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axes that restriction to any slot.
> Using := dependencies changes that restriction to one specific slot.
Ok thanks, is there any specific GLEP already? Or is it just a Paludis proposal?
I am just wondering when this stuff will hit the tree.
Thanks for the explanation
>
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>
I fully agree with what you wrote.
Hope to see you here back again, btw net-misc/openvpn made my day a lot of
times :)
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app-i18n/x-unikey
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and should be fixed.
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>
> isn't this what bugzilla is for ? reporting bugs ?
> -mike
Tracker Bug 413529 already filed.
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users I've been talking with.
I am not against changes, I am actually in favor of them, but only
when they really make sense and solve problems, which it doesn't seem
the case lately.
I didn't want to offend anyone, but just having fun (sigh) of IMHO bad
design decisions.
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I implemented this feature in Entropy long time ago (2009 iirc) and
enabled it by default as well.
We never had a single issue. Users seem quite happy about it.
So yeah, go for it!
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, please have a news item so
> that one can turn it off if necessary. Even then, new installs will
> have to remember to turn it off.
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I second that.
simplicity = win.
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Please kill CVS with fire!
I've been waiting for this since 2009.
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protocols out there, the problem is if
these protocols can be applied to the git workflow.
Just brain-dumping...
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Anything build-time related should not be placed into pkg_setup (I am
pointing the finger to those build-related die() that are breaking
binpkgs support). There's src_prepare() and src_configure() nowadays.
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from the HDEPEND discussion, but I
think that if we're going to split *DEPEND, it might be a good
opportunity to do it right _once_ and _for all_.
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using a spoon to eat spaghetti to me.
I think SDEPEND is a much simpler approach to the issue, why
introducing a new kind of USE flags to address what really belongs to
*DEPEND?
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> Zac
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ks in
practice and this is not really good to me, for a simple feature like
this.
[2] From GLEP 62 page: "and it is not strictly required that a package
manager must ensure that the dependency graph is still consistent
afterwards".
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luetooth in
net-misc/networkmanager for example (this is what I mean with USE
flags abuse, actually).
I'm not saying that SDEPEND is the best one-size-fits-all solution but
you may agree that's the simplest and most effective one.
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On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:09:22 +0200
> Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 4:57 PM, hasufell wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Why not introduce a global useflag such as "suggested-deps" wh
erstand the
complexity of proposals: if it takes me more than 5 minutes to
understand it, then users (!= devs) will have to go through the same
or more "wtf-period". And the probability of them "giving up / getting
sick / ignoring it" is linear with the wtf-period.
>
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On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:46:19 +0200
> Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
>> wrote:
>> > and we have worked out all the difficulties.
>>
>> Please elaborate. Wh
s/with/on/
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:19 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> The complexity would become:
>> O((b + r + p) * P)
>> b = amount of buildtime dependencies
>> r = amount of runtime dependencies
>> p = amount of p
It depends on who is actually laughing I'd say.
just my 0.01c.
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In my humble opinion, the real question is: why systemd got merged into udev?
I would love to hear a clear technical reason for that.
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"smarter" than the user.
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I think that the problem is that it is trying to be smart when it's
not really possible (unless you want to cover all the corner cases,
which is a pain).
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:32:40PM +0000, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> I hope this is going to be binary package manager friendly.
>> In Sabayon for instance, kernel sources are not even installed and at
>> the same time
I am starting to think that the real problem is that Gentoo does not
have ebuilds for building kernels (binary kernels). At that point, it
would be easy to add USE flags and virtual packages to solve the
config check problem at the dependencies level once and for all.
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What I always wondered is why we have ebuilds for every kind of binary
except for kernels, yet we build official kernels with official
configs for our livecds.
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entoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility
> Gentoo :/)
>
Officially, we have always used fbsplash + splashutils.
I have no experience with dracut/plymouth though.
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r2_0.tbz2/portage/x11-misc/bumblebee-3.0.1-r2'
* S:
'/var/tmp/entropy/packages/amd64/5/x11-misc_bumblebee-3.0.1-r2_0.tbz2/portage/x11-misc/bumblebee-3.0.1-r2/work/bumblebee-3.0.1'
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No FILESDIR nor T in pkg_* phases please!
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would fix any of the listed issues without causing other "side
effects".
For starters, if kernel sources provide /lib/firmware, how do you deal
with file collisions?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dirkjan
>
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I am starting to believe that this is yet another good reason for
having official ebuilds building binaries off gentoo-sources through
genkernel. Pretty much the same I do in Sabayon since 2007.
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El mar, 12-02-2013 a las 19:43 +0000, Fabio Erculiani escribió:
>> I am starting to believe that this is yet another good reason for
>> having official ebuilds building binaries off gentoo-sources through
>> genkernel. P
It looks like you're not using a standard style guide for Python but
rather this one [1].
I suggest you to use something closer to PEP8.
[1] https://code.google.com/p/google-styleguide/
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 April 2013 06:04:00 Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> It looks like you're not using a standard style guide for Python but
>> rather this one [1].
>> I suggest you to use something closer to PEP8.
>
&
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 April 2013 12:42:14 Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 10 April 2013 06:04:00 Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> >> It looks like you'
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[2] https://github.com/Sabayon/systemd-love
[3] For instance: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465236
[4] "useless crap": https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399615
Cheers,
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On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El mié, 01-05-2013 a las 12:04 +0200, Fabio Erculiani escribió:
> [...]
>> - other ~490 systemd units are missing at this time and writing them
>> could also be a great GSoC project (don't look at me, I'm busy
&
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Steven J. Long
wrote:
> On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 12:04:00PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> PLEASE DO NOT START A FLAME WAR AND READ ON FIRST.
>> THIS IS NOT A POST AGAINST OPENRC.
>>
>> With the release of Sabayon 13.04 [1] and thanks t
There is no tracker yet. But it may be very well materialize at some point.
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On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
wrote:
> On 5/1/13 3:04 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>
> As far as I read the bug, Mike (vapier) is doing the right thing.
> Distros doing lots of custom changes can only add more chaos to the picture.
We are a distribution,
> But noted, those last 2 "against" reasons are "edge cases", where the
> arguments for it are "majority cases", so collectively I'm still in favour
> of the eselect + symlinks approach.
>
>
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system default wxWidgets profile.
xvmc Manage the XvMC implementation used by your system
Why aren't we telling people to just edit config files!?
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On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Luca Barbato wrote:
> On 05/01/2013 12:04 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> PLEASE DO NOT START A FLAME WAR AND READ ON FIRST.
>> THIS IS NOT A POST AGAINST OPENRC.
>
> Amen
>
>> With the release of Sabayon 13.04 [1] and thanks to the eff
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>
> Scenario:
> - you have an initramfs with mdev, your pivot_chroot system runs udev.
> - you have a LVM volume group, containing the lvm volume for / and
> /home, and perhaps you also have swap on another volume.
> -
Tracker bug:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468898
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On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 1 May 2013 18:04, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> It looks like there is some consensus on the effort of making systemd
>> more accessible, while there are problems with submitting bugs about
>> new systemd units of the
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
wrote:
> Ben de Groot schrieb:
>> On 1 May 2013 18:04, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>>> It looks like there is some consensus on the effort of making systemd
>>> more accessible, while there are problems with su
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 8 May 2013 23:39, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>>> On 1 May 2013 18:04, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>>>> It looks like there is some consensus on the effo
t to do then? Isolate from the rest of the world?
(It's not a sarcastic question). I hope that everybody does their own
reality check.
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ctly by upstream projects would reduce our maintenance
burden in the long run.
Anyway, I'm not trying to convince anybody in using either init
systems, I am just suggesting that you should try both and decide
yourself. Which translated, is the same goal as making systemd more
accessible to you.
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>
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The final outcome I would love to see is that everybody eventually
graduates from kindergarten :-)
And perhaps introduce a "culture-fit" score in the recruiting,
mentoring process.
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stemd-love/commit/ced29311348a81a2573b030b1316f1c3a0335c5b
[2]
https://github.com/Sabayon/systemd-love/commit/9eea3ff713c8fa0391e7b1bfa494d533dc21c0be
[3]
https://github.com/Sabayon/systemd-love/blob/master/eclass/eselect-init.eclass
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Thanks for the offer, I appreciate it, but I have to decline this time.
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worth the porting, etc).
Making the switch between openrc and systemd easy is a big win (for
both developers, distro maintainers, users) and makes Gentoo more
attractive, but this is another topic...
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Fix the reason why the wrapper got broken then.
If the wrapper broke, it is most likely a symptom of a bigger problem.
I think that sysvinit's /sbin/init should be renamed to /sbin/sysvinit
(or /bin/sysvinit?), anyway...
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I believe that end users would benefit more from kernel binary ebuilds
(ebuilds building an actual kernel with an official config), rather
than all this.
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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El lun, 01-07-2013 a las 21:55 +0200, Fabio Erculiani escribió:
>> I believe that end users would benefit more from kernel binary ebuilds
>> (ebuilds building an actual kernel with an official config), rather
>> than all
es apart, I've been using it in production for almost 2 years now
(can't remember exactly).
>
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> http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang
>
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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Christoph Junghans wrote:
> 2013/7/1 Fabio Erculiani :
>> I believe that end users would benefit more from kernel binary ebuilds
>> (ebuilds building an actual kernel with an official config), rather
>> than all this.
> +1
>
> The &q
> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer
>>> http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang
>>>
>>
>>
>
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does not support
> devtmpfs
> (easy to check by /proc/filesystems)
No. As explained multiple times, this check is not reliable and
doesn't work (chroot, binpkgs, containers without kernel, and so
on...).
Making sure that the user doesn't build an unbootable kernel is the way to go.
>
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> Sergei
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times and randomly pick an initial state to see if
you spot a "scenario" in where you have problems (concurrency
problems)... :-)
>
>
> Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
> flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
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Some time ago I was also thinking about writing a test framework for
testing live images through kvm.
Of course I didn't manage to find time to try to arrange something in
the end, but the idea is still popping up in my mind every now and
then.
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ou understand that some of us will be very rude and just suggest
> to unmerge gnome on all support requests as it now moves outside our
> support range ...
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> Patrick
>
>
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On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> Moreover, the lvm problem is caused by a very ancient and ill decision
>> about doing what upstream tells you to avoid: have mdev in the
>> initramfs and udev on t
trate my gratitude.
>
> So yep, ~arch being *this* broken is not so nice
>
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slotmove lines.
>
> Paweł
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ame time.
Yeah, this is probably bad design...
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or little reason (a single vdb.dbapi.match() can eat 100MB
of RAM).
We know how Python deals with freed memory... Sigh...
>
> -A
>
>>
>>
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You can't toss out a tool and ask for it to be a
> recommendation but point to others that you think need to maintain its
> configuration.
>
> Rich
>
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On May 31, 2014 8:42 PM, "Robin H. Johnson" wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> > I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings,
> > ... to genkernel repository for:
> >
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828
> >
> > I'l
x: Developer, Infrastructure Lead
> E-Mail : robb...@gentoo.org
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x11-apps/python-whiteboard
x11-apps/whyteboard
x11-drivers/cwiid
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g/?p=105
After having discussed with one of your dev about it, he suggested me
to ask here looking for a mentor. If there's anything I can do, I'm
ready.
Despite some of you might think, I love Gentoo since 2001 :)
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quite big and I
always have to be quick.
So, to sum up, if we can build a better communication way it could be
useful for both sides.
On 3/13/08, Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> > I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is caus
day is over. I'm busy preparing a release, sorry.
Probably some of them are ok, but I don't think all.
Using http://packages.sabayonlinux.org interface you can query all our bins.
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s patience.
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from the University of Milano-Bicocca to add some static analysis bits
into the workflow. Maybe, there are some commonalities between the two
ideas (tinderbox vs what Sabayon is doing already).
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y decide how to deal with those. Because most of the ebuilds
don't seem to follow your logic.
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