pretend to have a valid opinion on
whether proctor policy should apply there and to what degree, if so. It
should probably be hashed out in advance, however, if at all possible,
just so everybody knows the rules of the game, one way or the other,
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tie breaking vote, only as an alternate. There's also the question of
whether the alternate votes in any absence, or only if the absent
councilor didn't designate a proxy. I'd say only if no proxy, except for
conflict of interest cases, since the proxy then could be said to be
ositive about staff status, but if it's correct, then at
least in theory global mods could indeed run for council.
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Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
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16 Mar 2007 09:23:31 -0400:
> On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 04:35 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>> * "If you perceive a breach of the Code of Conduct guidelines, let the
>> proctors know." How
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
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16 Mar 2007 09:30:41 -0400:
> On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 09:28 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>> If it's not correct, that they are staff and /not/ devs, therefore
>> /not/ eligible for counci
e the bug-mailing script to include the
resolution definition in the mail, so it would be seen there, not just if
someone went to the site.
What do others think of NULL or VOID vs. NOTABUG vs. INVALID?
Personally, I'd lean toward NULL, as I think the computer-speak
definition quite works, but fo
segment of /that/
segment.
A segment of an already minor segment (certainly currently, tho that
/may/ eventually change), not likely to be something that can reasonably
be characterized as benefiting Gentoo as a whole, at least in the near to
medium term, and beyond that, well, things remain up f
with Lucifer as that would of course give us a bad rep
Umm... let's not go where this seems to be heading...
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... And that article in turn is linked on lwn (with a useful comment
already from dberkholz):
http://lwn.net/Articles/227758
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status of
"official" package manager after introduction of a suitable package spec,
because I see no reason for there to /be/ such an "official" package
manager, but rather a group of "officially approved" managers, given that
options exist, with approval contingent on reasonable implementation of
the package spec among other things, of course.
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further package spec updates.
If that makes any sense and isn't entirely circular... it does (and
isn't) to me, anyway. Certainly more so than what to me is pretty much
bickering over nothing. =8^)
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d definitely serve a purpose, but just aren't the same. Do either
of the alternatives deal with that?
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sting eggcorn[1] there. =8^)
FWIW, Google lists 27 hits for "archived for prosperity", 11,400 hits for
"archived for posterity".
You've made my day, thanks! =8^)
[1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eggcorn
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s/tweaks before it enters ~ARCH.
Does that imply baselayout-1.13-alphaX is never to stabilize? I'm ~arch,
but have been using it without issue for some time now, and /had/ sort of
expected 1.13 to stabilize before tackling 2.x.
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threads get mentioned in GWN and thus features not
only there, but as a result on the Gentoo home page and on community
sites such as LWN as well, so one doesn't even have to follow this list
to know about it, only make /some/ effort to be keeping up with general
things Gentoo, and they'
inutils ?
>
> A separate solution is needed for those anyway, since there're plenty of
> people running with FEATURES=test.
FEATURES=bigtest ??
Interesting idea. Then default test to on and bigtest to off, with
appropriate user descriptions and developer guidelines for when us
weren't prepared for them, OR forcing
maintainers to turn off (restrict) tests altogether in such cases.
Restrict=test could then be reserved for those that are known to be
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arch-teams would test it on theirs before keywording stable. Those
(like myself) running ~arch on non-maintainer archs should be prepared to
live with the consequences of that choice anyway, including the
occasional test failure on their arch because the maintainer didn't test
it there and the
ng. Posting to an embargoed location
accessible only to devs first, for a preview and objection if necessary,
was the compromise. (I'm not sure if it was in place before that or not,
but while not a dev myself, I can definitely see the need, as I've seen
the blame-games played and a
's an example: "That last paragraph doesn't seem to
> agree with what I've observed, where Could you explain where the
> discrepancy arises?"
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ll working on isolating both of them to the kernel, and didn't
notice them until after rc7.
Just heads-up on bugs you may see... if others who haven't been testing
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it's in, and if it's more convenient for them in a
theology herd, why should it be a problem for those not interested in the
package? It might raise a few eyebrows here or there, but if it's being
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ave more people testing :)
>
> And yes, this release might be a bit more unstable due to the large core
> changes, but in my testing, I have had no problems.
Agreed with both sentiments, even if I'm having a couple minor problems
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Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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> Duncan wrote:
>> I'm running (vanilla) rc7-git10 ATM, and have two possible regressions
>> remaining here
>
> If reproducible on gentoo-soures-2.6
t's not going to make a difference, certainly one of any
significance, what's the big deal? "Much ado about nothing"?
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Ado_About_Nothing )
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herd, which many users likely aren't aware of at all, as it's primarily a
Gentoo-internal way for devs to organize packages of a similar theme they
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e sane default, and there's
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ching the format must be done after the upgrade, not before,
and the news message suggesting it should be shown after the upgrade, not
before, to prevent breakage while explaining warnings people will get
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See also the advice given by the FSF in regard to copyright, which the
GPL and etc. depend on for enforcement, and Lawrence Lessig's writings
and the Creative Commons organization he founded.
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uot;UID" before. For those to whom it doesn't
make sense, the use.desc.local entry should hopefully be sufficient, if
they even bother to worry about it as against the defaults, whatever they
may be.
BTW, this is very useful information to me, and one of the big reasons
I'm su
hus, using a
non-transparent flag such as livecd and defaulting it to on, or simply
hard-deping it, isn't a particularly nice option either.)
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SE=dhcp-uid is about as descriptive as it gets, and
coupled with a decent use.desc.local entry and perhaps an elog notice of
some sort, that should be fine.
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now 2007.1. Old profiles would stick
with the old expat, and new ones would get the new one. People are
generally prepared for at least a /bit/ of extra upheaval when they do
profile upgrades, and that would have made the PR a bit easier as well,
since that's a natural time for it.
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stabilization. It'd be nice, but...
So what /does/ the timing look like for 2007.1?
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es, likely over dialup? I have some friends that might be
interested, but had hesitated to recommend it based on what I saw in the
store and on the website alone.
Hope you find an enjoyable new paying job, to go with your enjoyable
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s from your acct, and the attachment handling (but then i'm
>> just a usr ;)
>>
>> dev-util/deskzilla
>
> deskzilla is totally free for gentoo devs?
If it's not free as in freedom, it's obviously not totally free.
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at's because the thought is now more than the sum
of its parts, having accumulated cultural meaning over the passage of
time.
Hopefully, that explains a bit why so many native English speakers seem
shocked at the offense you took. Next time, perhaps the reference will
make better sense. =
re'll still need to be some Gentoo devs
around creating those packages, so yeah, I'm grateful for all you guys
and all your contributions, even when it's "not so fun anymore", and wish
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established guidelines, and that any challenge as to favoritism
(deliberate or not) or the like can be met equally confidently. Perhaps
this baby, "bastard" tho he might have started, will now be given the
chance to grow into a mature and respected member of the community. =8^)
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n to try and pull /that/ off! =8^) I guess it works, tho, if
you don't try to stretch any of them beyond the limited area they were
applied to (which this sort of case begs... resist... resist... =8^) .
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If people only knew some of the great features portage already has, the
wouldn't keep asking for them. =8^) Features=buildpkg is one such
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possibly it could go in Sunrise or other
supervised user contributed overlay.*
So at this point it's pretty much up to the maintainer. Why are the rest
of us still discussing it?
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* Did the discussion on a sunset overlay or the equivalent ever go
anywhere, or did that get merged into sun
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
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Jun 2007 11:50:51 -0700:
> On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 08:58 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>> So at this point it's pretty much up to the maintainer. Why are the
>> rest of us still discuss
often is) installed to a system other than the
one it was compiled on.
If pkg_preinst is modifying as-shipped bin-pkg config files based on the
"live" filesystem of the build system, not the target system, something's
seriously broken. If it's not, then it's not unsafe
m a warm
> welcome.
Then I've a special reason to welcome him! Welcome! =8^)
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I don't use it, and as you're the
maintainer, if you wish to kill it, I've no objections. Just sayin' it
/does/ still work, so you'll need a reason other than that, even if it's
just that you're tired of it and it's not a big loss since KDE-4's c
nd that
changed you for the better, regardless of how hard it was while you were
going thru it.
So anyway, thanks to you and the entire council for serving. Someone has
to, and I can't see how it could have turned out better with anyone else.
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o can't, but it's definitely 4.2 related.
(As mentioned there, there's a kdesvn-0.12.1 upstream that's not in-tree
yet, but I just tested it and it doesn't solve the issue.)
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.2.0 now, and you
already know about it (the kdesvn one I mentioned that you already
reopened the bug on, that you hadn't been aware of earlier). With 600+
packages merged and 4.2 isn't even in ~arch yet, that's pretty
impressive, IMO. =8^) You and Ryan have been doing good work.
bug,
with an appropriate note of confirmation and thanks. Does that work or
is it still too bug-spammy? Again, if there's a reasonable consensus,
it'd be nice to have it mentioned one way or the other in the bug
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the current thread level) for the tree. Possibly
for one or more of the apps, but not the tree in general.
Again, I'm generally pro-GPLv3 switch, but an optimistic realist as
well. If a generally pro-GPLv3 guy doesn't see it as worth switching the
tree, I don't believe it's going to happen, period, because there are
certainly those that are more adamantly GPLv2 only than I am GPLv3 only,
and they have the present situation on their side.
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Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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> Duncan wrote:
>> Thus the questions of whether many/most individual ebuilds /could/ be
>> copyrighted or if so whether it's worth doing so. [] Gentoo policy
n the public domain can yet be copyrighted is
also legally well supported. Databases and phonebooks are precedents
there.
Lest anyone get a very wrong idea, IANAL, tho the area is of some
interest to me, so I follow it to some degree.
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e a VERY strong decision. If
the new council sees things differently, at least with it being an issue
during the nomination and vote, they'll be able to point to that and say
we did as we were elected to do. Either way, I believe it'll be a rather
stronger decision than if the out
/possibly/ that whoever this summarizer is, it be made an
"officially blessed" position, so not just anyone could post a reply and
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to be implemented. Then, if after a month or two it's not working, /
then/ I'd say it's time to consider bringing in the big moderation guns.
But I think it can and will work without those guns, provided we give it
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handled privately,
person-to-person, because the cost of breaking rank publicly is chaos,
which benefits no one of the regulars, only deliberate trolls.
I'd really really like to have a go at it, to see if we /can/ make it
work. I think we can, and /if/ we can, it's clearly a superio
that well respected by
their peers is GOING to hurt, so I really do hope the folks that are
running are prepared for what they are getting themselves into, and we
/don't/ lose anyone due to council duties this coming year.
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ad and create -project, and give it a few
> weeks to see what happens? Worry about -dev and moderation later on.
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se kind of harmful emails?
??? A little joking is traditional in new-dev welcome threads, or did
you miss the context? (Note that the tone was set with the snake people
reference, in the original intro.)
Sorry p-y for tainting your intro thread. =8^(
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7;ll be overwhelming buy-in from everyone into /doing/ that nudging.
I know I'd not have an objection if told a post of mine belonged there,
particularly if it was obvious anyone else, devs or not, would get the
same treatment for a similar post. Just now, there's nowhere to go,
. Replies to last-rites are dev material.
Do note, however, that when a last-rites is actually canceled, that's an
announcement that then belongs on dev-announce (xposted and followups to
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hat USE flags are for. If
indeed additional dependencies are pulled in, IMO the USE flags should
remain, and maybe someone needs to explain the Gentoo way to upstream.
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ing it! =8^) Once a portage with this
feature is stable and widely deployed, it's likely there'll be a
noticeable reduction in "PEBKAC" bugs due to not reading these messages.
This I can say from actual use! =8^)
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I checked earlier and didn't see them. I was going to request
them on gmane but hadn't yet. Now I can subscribe. =8^)
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"Eric Polino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
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> On 7/19/07, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Eric Polino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
>&
nd project, and I see others referencing posting to project
but don't see anything on it on gmane at all.
Is anybody subscribed by mail getting stuff on project yet? If neither
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on
the "Getting -project started" thread. A reply said he had to confirm
twice, and neither gmane nor the Gentoo archive appear to be getting
posts to it.
So anyone (devs or users) that has subscribed and isn't getting anything,
please re-confirm. I'm going to ask gmane
e a pass on
it at their last (August) meeting, both to let that happen, and to let
the new council make that decision.
project will ideally reduce dev traffic by half, possibly more, if people
can self-moderate, thus hopefully eliminating the need for moderation.
Given the controversial aspect, if
t spam-free for
those that aren't interested. Two posts here, the original question and
decision announcement, likely > 10 posts, maybe 100 or more if it's
controversial there, kept off this list.
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e personally disagrees with - or which a
> majority of developers disagree with. Flames are more about attitude
> and intent - not so much about viewpoint. [snip]
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on driver now includes (reverse engineered) R3xx and I believe R4xx
support, including 3D. R5xx is right out, since even VESA has issues due
to the no 2D hardware engine at all.
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to the point where a die is probably safest in any
case, so it's the right thing to do.)
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Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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> Alin Năstac kirjoitti:
>> Duncan wrote:
>>> If the user sees it, it means the maintainer failed to do his job.
>>> The tarball couldn't h
keeping in mind that -rX bumps wouldn't normally
need to test the dodoc anyway, since it'll be using the same tarball as
the original ebuild and dodoc shouldn't normally have changed. Thus,
testing the dodoc conditions should normally be necessary only on tarball
containing the
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the user
list, where you'll likely find help. Of course, the user list is pretty
high volume, off-putting to some, but the way the forums are splitup and
the way they work makes for a more focused discussion.
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this line
makes it clear:
print "Found %d processes using old versions of upgraded files" %
len(toRestart)
I'm not sure what other sorts of "random stuff" Debian includes in their
package, but IMO this one would fit right in with gentoolkit.
"Collection of a
le other SCSI devices as well.
With libata SCSI emulated SATA and PATA, that's potentially any hard
drive on a modern system. Shades of malware that holds your data for
ransom ("Wire me $1000 and I'll email you the unlock password."), anyone?
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not distribution packages (or
stages). If the sysadmin wants a /root/.bashrc, it's naturally his
privilege and responsibility to create and maintain it according to his
needs/preferences.
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sed with etc-update, but one could say so
was fstab). At least we can avoid creating further problems of the sort
we're avoiding with the above *.example and baselayout/* cases, however,
as the current proposal would IMO do.
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y, sounds reasonable, regardless
of the debate over where the code is eventually placed.
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Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
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2007 03:16:49 -0400:
> On Friday 21 September 2007, Duncan wrote:
>> Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 20 Sep
>>
ot cleaner.
Can you point me (and anyone else that may be interested) to a nice
explanation of the difference? I've always wondered why [[ ]] is
considered "better" than [ ] for tests.
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Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:19:34 -0600:
> Duncan wrote:
>> Can you point me (and anyone else that may be interested) to a nice
>> explanation of the difference? I've always wondered why [[ ]] is
&
der in the absolute.
I'd think "you need to merge or update this package" would suffice for
the "security-clueless", while the "security-clueful" already know the
deal, so no big deal for them, tho it'd lessen the hassle factor for them
as well.
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"Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
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> On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 09:31:24AM +, Duncan wrote:
>> Would it be possible to setup a gentoo-certs package, versioned like
>> any other,
em is those replies may contain information of use in fixing the
bug. If the mail gets null-spaced...
Better to warn upfront that a reply via mail isn't going to have the
intended results, AND bogus reply-to header it.
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that works
the same regardless of whether it's temporary or permanent. The general
effect would be that if a council member knew their views differed from
the runner-up in an area to be discussed, there'd be stronger motivation
to make it to the meeting. =8^)
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