Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-27 Thread Anthony G. Basile
ready exist. I don't think having multiple mechanisms to form groups is a problem; from my previous paragraph, it becomes clear that it is a solution. Answer: The project model has some concepts that herds do not have. I don't think discussing this is useful, projects are documente

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add bc back to the stage3

2014-09-27 Thread Anthony G. Basile
il vote on whether bc goes into stage3? If this does go to the council, then I want a pre-vote vote: should we bounce the decision back to the releng team? We should not micro manage to this level. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add bc back to the stage3

2014-09-29 Thread Anthony G. Basile
s with Gentoo, and they don't possess every skill collectively possessed by every member of the community. About the only thing the Council can claim is that people voted for them to represent the community, so it functions best when we actually act like a community. [1] - http://www.gentoo.

[gentoo-dev] News Item for changes in the MIPS profiles.

2014-09-30 Thread Anthony G. Basile
s? Title: Restructure of mips profiles Author: Anthony G. Basile Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2014-09-29 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Keyword: mips Display-If-Installed:sys-libs/glibc To accomodate the new multilib approach in Gentoo, the mips profiles will be changing on Oc

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item for changes in the MIPS profiles.

2014-09-30 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 09/30/14 14:30, Anthony G. Basile wrote: Author: Anthony G. Basile Um ... first error. Author: Anthony G. Basile Sorry everyone. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item for changes in the MIPS profiles.

2014-10-04 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 09/30/14 14:30, Anthony G. Basile wrote: Hi everyone, Can you please review the following news item. The item is self-explanatory. The only thing I'm iffy about is whether or not I should specify a date (Oct 11) for when I'm going to make the switch --- or should I just pus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping GCC maintainership

2014-10-06 Thread Anthony G. Basile
eople I thought could handle it and they said they're too busy. So I'm a bit worried. Having said that, Ryan thanks so much! -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-11 Thread Anthony G. Basile
g w/gcc-4.8 crashes early on ia64 For mips there is nothing to do, but ia64 will have to fall behind. And hardened will have to live with the asan-PaX issue. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-12 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/11/14 22:06, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: I would say the following still should be fixed: ... These look like some namespace issues, and different use of registers (on x86). #46 is hardened specific. Do any of these actually apply

[gentoo-dev] Add gcc-specs-stack-check() to toolchain-funcs.eclass

2014-10-12 Thread Anthony G. Basile
+directive=$(gcc-specs-directive cc1) +return $([[ "${directive/\{!fno-stack-check:}" != "${directive}" ]]) +} # @FUNCTION: gen_usr_ldscript -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-12 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/12/14 11:05, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: I'm working on that. I'm not sure that #46 is hardened i686 specific right now. I'm hitting it on vm with even the vanilla gcc so something else might be going on here. VL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add gcc-specs-stack-check() to toolchain-funcs.eclass

2014-10-12 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/12/14 15:46, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2014, Dan Douglas wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: +# Returns true if gcc builds with fstack-check +gcc-specs-stack-check() { +local directive +directive=$(gcc-specs-directive cc1) +return

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add gcc-specs-stack-check() to toolchain-funcs.eclass

2014-10-12 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/12/14 15:55, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 10/12/14 15:46, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2014, Dan Douglas wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: +# Returns true if gcc builds with fstack-check +gcc-specs-stack-check() { +local directive

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing a blocker from a stable package

2014-10-13 Thread Anthony G. Basile
would be okay with that on the arches I take care of: arm, ppc, ppc64. In other words, go with C and do the stablereq yourself. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing a blocker from a stable package

2014-10-14 Thread Anthony G. Basile
thing else, I just went ahead and removed app-doc/djbdns-man. Repoman doesn't even warn. Huh. I tested after the last round of emails and found the same. Let us know if something else complains. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add gcc-specs-stack-check() to toolchain-funcs.eclass

2014-10-15 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/12/14 17:22, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 10/12/14 15:55, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 10/12/14 15:46, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2014, Dan Douglas wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: +# Returns true if gcc builds with fstack-check +gcc-specs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping GCC maintainership

2014-10-17 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/17/14 14:55, Markos Chandras wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/07/2014 01:00 AM, Patrick McLean wrote: On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:25:53 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: On 10/06/14 13:13, Markos Chandras wrote: Let's face it, this is not a job jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-10-18 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/18/14 07:56, Alexander Tsoy wrote: On Sun Oct 12 01:27:38 2014 Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 10/11/14 16:28, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM, M. Ziebell wrote: But if anyone would ask me to stabilize gcc-4.8 I would say "amd64 ok". If there is general

[gentoo-dev] RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-19 Thread Anthony G. Basile
the ABI level in case they do something like add -std=c++11 to their global CXXFLAGS. Let me know if you think its worth sending out and/or any other suggestions. Title: GCC 4.7 Introduces New c++11 ABI Author: Anthony G. Basile Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2014-10-20 Revision: 1 News

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-19 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/19/14 18:57, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 18:53:43 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: we may want to inform users about breakage at the ABI level in case they do something like add -std=c++11 to their global CXXFLAGS. You mean tell them they get to keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
option, do not use it {+yet+} since it breaks the ABI, resulting in a non-functional system. Yes. Eventually we'll have to clear the road for this. However, I don't think we'll ever want to support a mixed abi system. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/19/14 19:08, Alex Xu wrote: On 19/10/14 06:53 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: the default is still gnu++98 what does this mean, how does it differ from c++98? Its a gnu dialect. I'm not sure of the details of how it deviates from the strict standard. I'm more familiar with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/20/14 00:59, Duncan wrote: Anthony G. Basile posted on Sun, 19 Oct 2014 18:59:41 -0400 as excerpted: On 10/19/14 18:57, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 18:53:43 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: we may want to inform users about breakage at the ABI level in ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/20/14 12:21, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: On 10/20/14 12:53 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: GCC 4.7 introduced the new experimental 2011 ISO C++ standard [1], along with its GNU variant. This new standard is not the default in GCC 4.7, 4.8 or 4.9, the default is still gnu++98, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/20/14 14:35, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 20/10/14 06:58 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 10/20/14 04:23, Alexander Berntsen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 20/10/14 08:36, Luca Barbato wrote: Since gcc-4.7 there

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/20/14 15:49, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 10/20/14 14:35, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 20/10/14 06:58 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 10/20/14 04:23, Alexander Berntsen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 20/10/14 08

[gentoo-dev] RFC: News item about musl upgrade

2014-10-21 Thread Anthony G. Basile
users that want to upgrade their systems are going to have to do extra steps. This news item describes those extra steps. Title: Upgrading to musl 1.1.5 Author: Anthony G. Basile Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2014-10-20 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: sys-libs/musl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-24 Thread Anthony G. Basile
HI everyone, I've update the c++ news item for your consideration. I incorporated suggestions, in particular a note about incompatibility between c++11 compiled with different version of gcc differing in minor number (eg 4.7 and 4.8). -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph. D. Chair of Inform

[gentoo-dev] status of bugs blocking gcc-4.8.3

2014-10-24 Thread Anthony G. Basile
we go forward. Seehttps://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61758 So except for some minor arch issue and bug 513386, which we're going to have to deal with for a while, gcc-4.8.3 looks good. I went ahead and stabilized it on ppc and ppc64. Its also stable on arm and hppa. I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-24 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/24/14 11:31, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: On 10/24/14 4:31 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: I've update the c++ news item for your consideration. I incorporated suggestions, in particular a note about incompatibility between c++11 compiled with different version of gcc dif

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-26 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/25/14 05:32, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: On 10/24/14 7:29 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: So I don't have to keep email the entire item to the list, how about just adding it as follows: "Nor is c++11 code compiled with gcc-4.7 ABI-compatible with c++11 compiled with 4.8,

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-9999 (and upcoming 217) no longer has userspace firmware loader (will need Linux 3.7 for firmware's to be loaded)

2014-11-11 Thread Anthony G. Basile
serland firmware loading support. Versions 2.0 and above removed it. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Implicit system dependency

2014-11-14 Thread Anthony G. Basile
tus quo that I'm not in favor of the extra work. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Implicit system dependency

2014-11-14 Thread Anthony G. Basile
so easy to delete from a DEPEND string, so I foresee some tricky if logic here. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-11-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
r reassign all his packages (and team positions) to a volunteering proxy developer who will handle human relations for him. Chill dude. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BB

Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

2014-11-21 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/21/14 18:05, Michał Górny wrote: And yes, I'm waiting for some free time to redo the toolchain. That I will help you with. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-05 Thread Anthony G. Basile
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/10 23:32, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Richard Freeman wrote: >> On 07/04/2010 04:09 PM, Jory A. Pratt wrote: >>> >>> For those of you not on the #gentoo-dev channel, I just announced I am >>> gonna be looking at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Two herds (and four extra?)

2010-07-21 Thread Anthony G. Basile
rdened. They are not two separate projects. The only reason for the two lists is to help keep the issues straight: kernel issues to hardened-kernel and userland/toolchain issues to hardened. [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~blueness/hardened-sources/ - -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Two herds (and four extra?)

2010-07-22 Thread Anthony G. Basile
es the "otherwise" work. If we have herds listed before maintainers, do you still assign to the first maintainer? In other words, do you only default to the first herd if there are no maintainers listed at all? - -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
freedesktop btw. > > lu > Agreed. For example, if one does cluster management with pacemaker or heartbeat you need to stick to more traditional shell based init scripts. Except for the lack of manpower, it would be nice to offer our users different flavors of system startups, but dropping

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization update

2010-09-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
; It is small and simple, but the disadvantage of it is that you can't > stop/start a single interface. > > William > Why can't we keep both? There are strong advantages/disadvantages either way and there are users invested in both new/oldnet. I know this is more work on d

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization update

2010-09-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
hat the GDP has > to worry about. newnet will still be there, but people will have to manually > opt out of oldnet and opt in to newnet. i dont think we need to worry about > documenting it in the handbook for now ... the bundled files with openrc are > sufficient. > -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] enabling FEATURES=sfperms for all Linux profiles

2010-10-26 Thread Anthony G. Basile
abling this in > profiles/default/linux/ for all linux systems. > -mike > Good idea. Is this in response to the $ORIGIN root exploit in glibc? (bug #341755). - -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using Gn

[gentoo-dev] Hardened is planning on restructuring its profiles

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony G. Basile
We're planning on starting with the minor arches and then moving onto x86 and amd64. Since this has the potential to impact all profiles (given the complex inheritance structure), we'd like any feedback or caveats before we proceed. Anthony G. Basile (blueness) and the hardened team --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hardened is planning on restructuring its profiles

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/06/2010 10:46 AM, Theo Chatzimichos wrote: > On Saturday 06 November 2010 16:37:41 Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> The hardened team is planning to restructure its profiles so that there >> is no version. Thus on a amd64 system, >> >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hardened is planning on restructuring its profiles

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/06/2010 11:45 AM, Alex Alexander wrote: > On 6 Nov 2010, at 16:37, "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> The hardened team is planning to restructure its profiles so that there >> is no version. Thus on a amd64 system,

[gentoo-dev] News item for restructuring of hardened profiles.

2010-11-09 Thread Anthony G. Basile
Hi everyone, I'd like to post the following news item about the restructuring of the hardened profiles. I'm passing it by the community for critical review. Anthony G. Basile (blueness) -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer Title: Restructuring of Hardened profiles Author:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item for restructuring of hardened profiles.

2010-11-10 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/09/2010 11:08 PM, Duncan wrote: > Christian Faulhammer posted on Tue, 09 Nov 2010 23:51:45 +0100 as > excerpted: > >> Hi, >> >> "Anthony G. Basile" : >> >>> We will change the profiles one arch at a time, starting with ia64, and >>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item for restructuring of hardened profiles.

2010-11-10 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/10/2010 08:30 AM, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > "Anthony G. Basile" : >> 1) authorship - I've added another line for the entire hardened team. >> I've kept my name in there because I'm the point person for the work. > That was my

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for restructuring of hardened profiles.

2010-11-10 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/10/2010 10:29 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 11/10/2010 02:42 PM, Peter Volkov wrote: >> В Втр, 09/11/2010 в 18:20 -0500, Anthony G. Basile пишет: >>> Title: Restructuring of Hardened profiles >> [...] >>> Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux >> >> Is

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for restructuring of hardened profiles.

2010-11-10 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/10/2010 04:42 PM, Matthew Summers wrote: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Matthew Summers > wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> >>> On 11/10/2010 10:29 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: >>>> On 11/10/2010 02:42 PM, Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for restructuring of hardened profiles.

2010-11-11 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/10/2010 05:44 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 11/10/2010 04:42 PM, Matthew Summers wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Matthew Summers >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Anthony G. Basile > wrote: >>>> On 11/10/2010 10:29 A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2011-01-06 Thread Anthony G. Basile
y little maintenance. > > net-misc/tor > A bump here and there (especially security fixes). Upstream really > nice, there were user requests for beta ebuilds which I have no time to > provide. > > V-Li > I'll take net-mis/tor. I know the upstream people. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
before. > Storing distfiles in public_html is not a perfect solution either. If > the developer retires, what do we do with the files? > There is another problem: grep mirror /usr/portage/eclass/* | sed -e 's/:.*$//' | sort | uniq shows 39 eclasses which refer to mirror:// -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 01/20/2011 01:34 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 01/20/2011 01:23 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: >> On 1/20/11 1:50 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: >>> If you produced the file yourself, and it doesn't matter if the file is >>> reproducible (unless it i

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-24 Thread Anthony G. Basile
th sys-kernel/hardened-sources, we also stabilize sys-apps/gradm because it is the userland tool for setting up RBAC in the hardened kernel. We often need to stabilize the two at the same time. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=-ipv6 in the hardened profile

2011-02-08 Thread Anthony G. Basile
; I don't know of any reason and all my hardened servers have it, so yeah, its a good idea. Let me do some more investigating to make sure I'm not missing anything and then I'll add it. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer

[gentoo-dev] release 11.0 and freshmeat.net

2011-03-10 Thread Anthony G. Basile
pretty :) -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] pax-utils.eclass: elog -> einfo?

2011-03-13 Thread Anthony G. Basile
son. for people who dont use grsec/PaX, they > probably could care less and never see this output. for people who do, they > probably do want to see this. > > maybe have it `elog` only when [[ $(uname -r) == *-grsec* ]] > -mike blueness@yellowness ~ $ uname -r 2.6.37-hardened-r5 so you need == *-hardened-* -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] pax-utils.eclass: elog -> einfo?

2011-03-13 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 03/13/2011 06:01 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday, March 13, 2011 17:38:29 Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> On 03/13/2011 04:19 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> maybe have it `elog` only when [[ $(uname -r) == *-grsec* ]] >> blueness@yellowness ~ $ uname -r >> 2.6.37

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use of use.mask

2011-04-30 Thread Anthony G. Basile
only testing. In both cases a user who thinks they 'know what they're doing' can locally unmask, at their own risk. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] hardened flavor of the developer profile

2011-05-05 Thread Anthony G. Basile
thing to be careful of is that there is a lot of cruft under the hardened profiles, some really old deprecated material that I have not yet cleared out. You really don't want to use one of that. Just watch out for any warning about deprecated profiles. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] hardened flavor of the developer profile

2011-05-06 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/06/2011 03:29 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 5/5/11 10:45 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> We simplified our profiles recently (last Oct-Nov 2010) > You're referring to > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_d847f6258a398052deecc9786c45c604.xml, &g

[gentoo-dev] Should "server" be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
name (although I'm going to test in a minute on an overlay :) -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should "server" be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/23/2011 10:48 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 23 May 2011, Anthony G Basile wrote: >> I was looking at use.desc/use.local.desc to see if the "server" flag is >> global or not. I was surprised to see that it is not. There are 26 >> pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should "server" be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/23/2011 12:37 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2011 16:48:15 +0200 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>>>> On Mon, 23 May 2011, Anthony G Basile wrote: >>> I was looking at use.desc/use.local.desc to see if the "server" >>> fla

[gentoo-dev] sec-policy/selinux-policykit for removal

2011-06-18 Thread Anthony G. Basile
sec-policy/selinux-policykit masked for removal, bug #371441 There are no package depending on it. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] sec-policy/selinux-policykit for removal

2011-06-19 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 06/18/2011 07:06 PM, Chris PeBenito wrote: > On 6/18/2011 1:16 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> sec-policy/selinux-policykit masked for removal, bug #371441 >> >> There are no package depending on it. > > Is sys-auth/polkit going away? Thats what its for. > Hi C

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-29 Thread Anthony G. Basile
to feel good. > Hi Patrick, I started the madness :) But it wasn't because I didn't prefer openrc over all other init systems, but because I wanted to create minimal chroot environments without any init system whatsoever. In addition to opening up the choice for our users, this also av

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Disambiguation of "hardened" use flag and proposal for a new global flag "pax_kernel"

2011-07-14 Thread Anthony G. Basile
The hardened team will work with maintainers to clean up the flags. Thanks, and we await comments. --The hardened team. Ref [1] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-hardened/msg_040568ebe0a2f55c76820cfdcf8a0ff9.xml -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Disambiguation of "hardened" use flag and proposal for a new global flag "pax_kernel"

2011-07-15 Thread Anthony G. Basile
MPROTECT on the mono binary." sed '/exec/ i\paxctl -mr "$r/@mono_runtime@"' -i "${S}"/runtime/mono-wrapper.in But this assumes that paxctl is on the user's system which is not guaranteed unless the users has emerged hardened-sources (which will depend on paxctl). scanelf would have to be the replacement in such cases because it is guaranteed to be there by the profiles. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Disambiguation of "hardened" use flag and proposal for a new global flag "pax_kernel"

2011-07-18 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/16/2011 12:55 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 7/15/11 3:51 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> So, here's the glitch. For example, in dev-lang/mono, following the >> above plan, we would drop the "hardened" flag, remove >> >>DEPEND

[gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-07-31 Thread Anthony G. Basile
area and that there was a consensus to include functions to set caps within portage [2]. I don't know what, if anything has been done since then, but I'd like to lend my support. Ref [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/420969/ [2] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/226948 -- Anthony

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-07-31 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/31/2011 03:46 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Anthony G. Basile > wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> A couple of days ago, bonsaikitten (Patrick), kerframil (Kerin Millar) >> and myself were talking about other distros moving away f

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 08/02/2011 03:08 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:00:40 -0400 > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > >> On 07/31/2011 03:46 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Anthony G. Basile >>> wrote: >>>> Hi

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 08/02/2011 10:31 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:28:58 -0400 > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: >> I prefer capsetting in the PMS itself, with a nice clean function >> which auto detects all the necessary conditions and transparently >> preserves

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
t;> > So no, not something via pkg_postinst(). > Please don't. > Why would this be bad? -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
be to write a howto and show the user how to manually convert some typical binaries. There are only a handful that would be targeted. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds

2011-08-18 Thread Anthony G. Basile
oo/ if upstream doesn't provide a tarball, eg with large patchsets the maintainer constructs? Anticipating your answer might be "keep them in your dev space", then what would be the deprecation policy for distfiles that are no longer used by ebuilds? If foresee a tension between keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds

2011-08-18 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 08/18/2011 05:53 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno gio, 18/08/2011 alle 05.46 -0400, Anthony G. Basile ha > scritto: >> >> What alternative are you proposing to mirror://gentoo/ if upstream >> doesn't provide a tarball, eg with large patchsets the maintainer

[gentoo-dev] Including a warning to restart daemons after an update.

2011-08-21 Thread Anthony G. Basile
ll eclass on its own that maintainers can elect to inherit and use in ebuilds for daemons. What do you think? If its a good idea, is implementing it in an eclass the way to go? -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph. D. Chair of Information Technology D'Youville College Buffalo, NY 14201 (716) 829-8197

Re: [gentoo-dev] Including a warning to restart daemons after an update.

2011-08-21 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 08/21/2011 01:07 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 21.08.2011 15:27, Michał Górny wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:29:45 -0400 >> "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: >> >>> OpenSuse has a nice solution. After an upgrade, it tells you that >>> there are so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due cbrannon retirement

2011-09-13 Thread Anthony G. Basile
if someone else wants to, fine by me, as long as it stays alive. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due cbrannon retirement

2011-09-14 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 09/13/2011 04:58 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 09/13/2011 11:39 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> On 09/13/2011 03:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> Due cbrannon retirement the following packages need a new maintainer: >>> >>> dev-db/unixODBC >> I'v

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: virtual/{cron,dev-manager,inetd,libc,linux-sources,man,os-headers,package-manager,skkserv,ssh,w3m}

2011-09-22 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 09/22/2011 04:53 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >virtual/linux-sources > I can take this one if the kernel herd is okay with that. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535

[gentoo-dev] Manifest signing

2011-09-29 Thread Anthony G. Basile
? -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more hardening features to default?

2011-10-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
It would probably be nearly painless to bring in -D_FORTIFY_SOURCES=2 and ssp into mainstream though. Packages which break because of either of those two features are broken and should be fixed anyhow. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more hardening features to default?

2011-10-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
l for us, but might be more than we want to put newbies through. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] Building hardened gcc specs always, just not enabling them by default

2011-10-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
ges are masked or added to the profile for the toolchain, some for the kernel. We'd have to disentangle those. I'm not sure how the details would play out. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] Building hardened gcc specs always, just not enabling them by default

2011-10-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/23/2011 03:20 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Anthony G. Basile > wrote: >> Where would the hardened profiles fit in this? This requires some >> thought. Right now "hardened" means three choices: 1) hardened >> toolch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Building hardened gcc specs always, just not enabling them by default

2011-10-24 Thread Anthony G. Basile
... if built_with_use sys-devel/gcc hardened. > Fourth - we can add the gcc spec to emerge --info. > > What do you think? > Good idea. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 GnuPG ID : D0455535

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Building hardened gcc specs always, just not enabling them by default

2011-10-25 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/25/2011 01:59 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:26:01 +0200 > ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote: > >> On 10/24/11 12:58 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >>> Well not totally on their own, they'd report it and we'd have to see >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: hardened glibc and gcc dependencies

2011-10-28 Thread Anthony G. Basile
class EAPI>=2 would be a step forward. Approaching this naively, can't we just set EAPI="2" in the eclass, see what breaks and fix? Or is it more involved because some EAPI="0" ebuilds would be inheriting it and we'd need a lot of if "${EAPI}" == 0 che

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due vanquirius retirement

2011-11-22 Thread Anthony G. Basile
ools > net-misc/pavuk > sys-fs/encfs > sys-fs/vhba > www-client/httrack > www-client/links > > Thanks for taking them > I can take sys-fs/encfs. I use it. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due chiiph retirement

2011-11-24 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/24/2011 07:56 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Due chiiph retirement the following packages need a new maintainer: > > dev-util/dissy > net-misc/axel > net-misc/vidalia > > > > Thanks for taking them > Since I'm taking care of net-misc/tor, I'll take net-m

[gentoo-dev] Bleeding edge hardened-sources: move PaX markings from ELF to Extended Attributes

2011-12-01 Thread Anthony G. Basile
patch which can be obtained from the patch bundles found at http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/dist/ among other places. [3] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382067 [4] http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/hardened-dev.git;a=blob;f=HOWTO.txt;h=9edc600f0d81d5e77c6cd7e961a05b56f51b51ec;hb=f4d0

[gentoo-dev] Adding a new selinux profile to default/linux/{amd64,x86}/10.0

2011-12-07 Thread Anthony G. Basile
inux/amd64/10.0/developer [7] default/linux/amd64/10.0/no-multilib [8] default/linux/amd64/10.0/server [9] hardened/linux/amd64 * [10] hardened/linux/amd64/selinux [11] hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib [12] hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib/selinux Any objections? -- Anthony

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding a new selinux profile to default/linux/{amd64,x86}/10.0

2011-12-07 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 12/07/2011 01:44 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 07 December 2011 09:07:41 Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> Some time ago the selinux team restructured the selinux profiles and >> made a features/selinux which could be stacked on the hardened profiles >> for x86/amd64.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bleeding edge hardened-sources: move PaX markings from ELF to Extended Attributes

2011-12-07 Thread Anthony G. Basile
i know tmpfs works (once you've > enabled it in the kernel). > -mike I just tested with reiser3 and xattr works just fine. Just make sure its enabled in the kernel and when you mount the fs use option user_xattr for the user. namespace. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] making the stable tree more up-to-date

2011-12-16 Thread Anthony G. Basile
gt; Agostino Hi ago, Does your script do any checking on the quality of the ebuild, eg that it respects C/LDFLAGS. If so, that's useful and would help package maintainers to better prepare their ebuilds for stabilization. And congrats on making dev :) -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Lin

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