Re: [gentoo-dev] Multilib team lead election / future

2015-10-01 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 18:46:37 -0400 Jonathan Callen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 09/30/2015 04:01 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > On 30/09/15 03:57 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> Dnia 2015-09-30, o godz. 21:36:51 Michał Górny > >> napisał(a): > > > >>> Hello,

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-10-01 Thread Brian Evans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/30/2015 5:40 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > 2. Some old features are removed: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreSSL#Added_features Most notably > SSLv3 and MD5 support cancelled, while they are indeed not secure, > some apps are likely still

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: OpenRC 0.18 changes to localmount and netmount

2015-10-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:13:09AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 29/09/15 11:10 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > On 29/09/15 10:52 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 29/09/2015 16:29, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >>> On 28/09/15 06:58 PM, Willi

[gentoo-dev] gcc-4.9.3 going stable

2015-10-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
gcc-4.9.3 is stabilizing: https://bugs.gentoo.org/561844 -mike signature.asc Description: Digital signature

[gentoo-dev] moving gcc-5.2 to unstable

2015-10-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
what do people want to have in place before we move gcc-5.2 into ~arch ? the general list looks pretty good: https://bugs.gentoo.org/536984 the only glaring issue is the C++11 ABI breakage: https://bugs.gentoo.org/542482 we already posted a news item when the breakage started in

[gentoo-dev] newsitem: OpenRC 0.18 localmount and netmount changes

2015-10-01 Thread William Hubbs
All, this is the second iteration of this newsitem. Thanks, William Title: OpenRC-0.18 localmount and netmount changes Author: William Hubbs Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2015-10-03 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: <=sys-fs/openrc-0.18 The behaviour of localmount and

Re: [gentoo-dev] moving gcc-5.2 to unstable

2015-10-01 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 09:49 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > what do people want to have in place before we move gcc-5.2 into ~arch ? For one thing, the fix for runtime failure in 64-bit wine: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=66838 https://gcc.gnu.org/viewcvs/gcc?view=revision&revision=

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-10-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/09/15 03:29 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 9/30/15 12:18 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 30/09/15 07:42 > AM, hasufell wrote: * libressl has to conflict with openssl > Right now libressl exports many of the same symbols as openssl > rig

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: OpenRC 0.18 changes to localmount and netmount

2015-10-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/10/15 09:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:13:09AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 29/09/15 11:10 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >>> On 29/09/15 10:52 AM, Alan Mc

Re: [gentoo-dev] moving gcc-5.2 to unstable

2015-10-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 01 Oct 2015 10:11, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 09:49 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > what do people want to have in place before we move gcc-5.2 into ~arch ? > > For one thing, the fix for runtime failure in 64-bit wine: > > https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: [gentoo-dev] moving gcc-5.2 to unstable

2015-10-01 Thread Georg Rudoy
2015-10-01 16:49 GMT+03:00 Mike Frysinger : > what do people want to have in place before we move gcc-5.2 into ~arch ? > Just letting know that gcc 5 isn't compatible with clang due to https://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=23529 Setting gcc as a primary compiler will effectively make programs no

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-10-01 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 09:25:42 -0400 Brian Evans wrote: > On 9/30/2015 5:40 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > 2. Some old features are removed: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreSSL#Added_features Most notably > > SSLv3 and MD5 support cancelled, while they are indeed not secure, > > some app

Re: [gentoo-dev] moving gcc-5.2 to unstable

2015-10-01 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 10:24 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 01 Oct 2015 10:11, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 09:49 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > what do people want to have in place before we move gcc-5.2 into > > > ~arch ? > > > > For one thing, the fix for runtime

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: OpenRC 0.18 changes to localmount and netmount

2015-10-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/10/15 10:15 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 01/10/15 09:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:13:09AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius >> wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >>> >>> On 29/09/15 11:10 AM, Ian

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: OpenRC 0.18 changes to localmount and netmount

2015-10-01 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 01/10/15 09:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:13:09AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius >> wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >>> >>> On 29/09/1

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: OpenRC 0.18 changes to localmount and netmount

2015-10-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 October 2015 17:49:15 CEST, Mike Gilbert wrote: >On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Ian Stakenvicius >wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 01/10/15 09:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:13:09AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius >>> wrote: ---

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: OpenRC 0.18 changes to localmount and netmount

2015-10-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 October 2015 17:49:15 CEST, Mike Gilbert wrote: >On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Ian Stakenvicius >wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 01/10/15 09:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:13:09AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius >>> wrote: ---

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-10-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I'll go ahead and start a tangent on this thread right here. As a > first step can we separately consider the proposal to require a > revbump anytime a package's RDEPENDS changes? I'm referring here to > directly-specified RDEPENDS, not th

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC 0.18 changes -O _netdev

2015-10-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Since this conversation is now technical rather than news-item related, I've changed to a new thread. On 01/10/15 02:17 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 1 October 2015 17:49:15 CEST, Mike Gilbert > wrote: On 28/09/15 06:58 PM, William Hubbs wr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-10-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/10/15 02:34 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Rich Freeman > wrote: >> >> I'll go ahead and start a tangent on this thread right here. >> As a first step can we separately consider the proposal to >> require a revbump

Re: [gentoo-dev] binutils-libs: new package for binutils libs

2015-10-01 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-09-29, o godz. 10:21:14 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > if your package depended on binutils because you wanted to link against > libbfd or libopcodes, or you omitted the dep entirely (because you didn't > notice?), there's a new package you should convert to using: > sys-libs/binuti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-10-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 15:08:00 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > Slotmove VDB updates *should* be allow slotmove-related changes to > be excluded here too, but unfortunately with portage not doing > updates to rdeps properly, at this time all rdeps will need to be > revbumped when their RDEPEND changes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-10-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/01/2015 09:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 15:08:00 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius > wrote: >> Slotmove VDB updates *should* be allow slotmove-related changes >> to be excluded here too, but unfortunately with portage not >> doing u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-10-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/01/2015 02:34 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > RDEPEND changes directly in ebuilds > Proposal 1: Anytime an RDEPEND in a non-virtual ebuild is changed, the > ebuild must be revisioned. This includes adding/removing inherited > eclasses which set RDEPENDs. > This gets conflated with dynamic dep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-10-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 21:11:22 +0200 Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 10/01/2015 09:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 15:08:00 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius > > wrote: > >> Slotmove VDB updates *should* be allow slotmove-related changes > >> to be excluded here too, but unfortunately wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-10-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/01/2015 09:22 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 21:11:22 +0200 Kristian Fiskerstrand > wrote: >> On 10/01/2015 09:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 15:08:00 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius >>> wrote: Slotmove VDB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-10-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >> >> RDEPEND changes in eclasses Proposal 3: Anytime an RDEPEND in an >> eclass is changed, the eclass must be revisioned. Proposal 4: >> Anytime an RDEPEND in an eclass is changed, all ebuilds that >> inherit the eclass in the gentoo repo

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-10-01 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/1/15 10:14 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/09/15 03:29 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 9/30/15 12:18 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 30/09/15 07:42 AM, hasufell wrote: * libressl has to conflict with openssl Right now libressl exports man

Re: [gentoo-dev] moving gcc-5.2 to unstable

2015-10-01 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 10/1/15 9:49 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: what do people want to have in place before we move gcc-5.2 into ~arch ? the general list looks pretty good: https://bugs.gentoo.org/536984 the only glaring issue is the C++11 ABI breakage: https://bugs.gentoo.org/542482 we already post

Re: [gentoo-dev] binutils-libs: new package for binutils libs

2015-10-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 01 Oct 2015 21:10, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-09-29, o godz. 10:21:14 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > if your package depended on binutils because you wanted to link against > > libbfd or libopcodes, or you omitted the dep entirely (because you didn't > > notice?), there's a new package you

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC 0.18 changes -O _netdev

2015-10-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 02:42:15PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Since this conversation is now technical rather than news-item > related, I've changed to a new thread. > > On 01/10/15 02:17 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On 1 October 2015 17:

Re: [gentoo-dev] binutils-libs: new package for binutils libs

2015-10-01 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-10-01, o godz. 16:15:32 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > On 01 Oct 2015 21:10, Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2015-09-29, o godz. 10:21:14 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > > if your package depended on binutils because you wanted to link against > > > libbfd or libopcodes, or you omitted the de

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC 0.18 changes -O _netdev

2015-10-01 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 02:42:15PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> Since this conversation is now technical rather than news-item >> related, I've changed to a new thread. >> >> On 01/

Re: [gentoo-dev] binutils-libs: new package for binutils libs

2015-10-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 01 Oct 2015 22:24, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-10-01, o godz. 16:15:32 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > On 01 Oct 2015 21:10, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Dnia 2015-09-29, o godz. 10:21:14 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > > > if your package depended on binutils because you wanted to link against >

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC 0.18 changes -O _netdev

2015-10-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/01/2015 10:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On busybox, the last time I checked, umount -a doesn't support -O > at all. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468600 seems to indicate it does, see comment 1: "It seems busybox-1.21.0 mount ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC 0.18 changes -O _netdev

2015-10-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/10/15 04:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 02:42:15PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> Since this conversation is now technical rather than news-item >> related, I'v

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC 0.18 changes -O _netdev

2015-10-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 04:56:55PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 01/10/15 04:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 02:42:15PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius > > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC 0.18 changes -O _netdev

2015-10-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/01/2015 11:04 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > Please read my statement above again; I said umount not mount. ;-) Not tested that, but isn't that something that should be fixed in busybox? is there an upstream bug for it if it isn't supported?

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC 0.18 changes -O _netdev

2015-10-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 11:07:48PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 10/01/2015 11:04 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > > > > Please read my statement above again; I said umount not mount. ;-) > > Not tested that, but isn't that something

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: OpenRC 0.18 localmount and netmount changes

2015-10-01 Thread William Hubbs
All, there will be a third iteration of this news item posted in a couple of minutes; I am adding back the -O netdev/no_netdev options. William signature.asc Description: Digital signature

[gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc localmount and netmount changes (third iteration)

2015-10-01 Thread William Hubbs
Title: OpenRC-0.18 localmount and netmount changes Author: William Hubbs Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2015-10-03 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: <=sys-fs/openrc-0.18 The behaviour of localmount and netmount is changing on Linux systems. In the past, these services alw

[gentoo-dev] OpenRC and BusyBox

2015-10-01 Thread William Hubbs
All, I would like to call attention, in a separate thread, to the incompatibility issues between OpenRC and BusyBox [1]. What is the status of getting these issues checked out? they have been open for some time with no responses. Thanks, William [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5290

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dynamic dependencies

2015-10-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > > Proposal 3a might be: Anytime an RDEPEND in an eclass is changed, the > eclass must be revisioned unless all ebuilds in the gentoo repository > will continue to work correctly with the old RDEPEND. > Proposal 4a might be: Anytime an RDEPEND in an eclass is changed, all > eb