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On 01/10/15 10:15 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 01/10/15 09:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:13:09AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius 
>> wrote:
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>>> On 29/09/15 11:10 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>>>> On 29/09/15 10:52 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>>> On 29/09/2015 16:29, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>>>>>> On 28/09/15 06:58 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>>>>>>> Also, we are dropping the use of the -O switch for 
>>>>>>> mount/umount -a. This is being dropped because it is
>>>>>>>  util-linux specific and not compatible with
>>>>>>> busybox.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does this have any actual end-user impact?  AFAIK,
>>>>>> using the -O switch was 'just added' by us originally
>>>>>> (i think to reduce the explicit listing of the
>>>>>> different fs types or otherwise simplify the init
>>>>>> script code) right?  I'm just wondering if this
>>>>>> paragraph is actually necessary or not..
>>>> 
>>>>> As a user, that para in the news makes me ask "how does 
>>>>> this affect me?". I have to go read man pages and init 
>>>>> scripts to find out.
>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps this:
>>>> 
>>>>> Also, we are dropping the use of the -O switch for 
>>>>> mount/umount -a, because it is util-linux specific and
>>>>> not compatible with busybox. This only affects mounts
>>>>> with "_netdev" listed under options in /etc/fstab. Such
>>>>> systems should use "noauto" and/or "nofail" as described
>>>>> above.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly my thoughts.  We used -O _netdev within the 
>>>> 'netmount' script to identify which fstab entries are
>>>> network mounts.  But we did it a different way prior to
>>>> using -O _netdev.  And since this isn't actually related in
>>>> any way to something end-users can set in fstab (it has to
>>>> do with the filesystem type itself) I don't see the point
>>>> in worrying end-users about it.
>>>> 
>>>> I suppose it's worthwhile to note to busybox users that
>>>> they no longer have to use alternate means of netmounting,
>>>> as 'netmount' will now work on busybox...?
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps: " Also, we are dropping the use of the -O switch 
>>>> for mount/umount -a, to ensure the localmount and netmount 
>>>> scripts are compatible with busybox mount.  If your system 
>>>> uses busybox mount please migrate any custom workarounds
>>>> you may have to the openrc localmount/netmount services. "
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> PS - i still think we should just cut it.
> 
>> What is it that you think we should cut?
> 
>> Thanks,
> 
>> William
> 
> 
> The whole -O _netdev paragraph.  Although i'm willing to cede on 
> that as I didn't know end users set _netdev in fstab themselves;
> i thought it was a property of filesystem types and was entirely 
> transparent to end-users.
> 

Right, so I've learned that I had entirely the wrong idea of what -O
_netdev is for.  So, nevermind on cutting this paragraph and sorry
for the noise.  :)
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