[gentoo-dev] svn{.overlays,}.gentoo.org hosting discontinued; git{.overlays,}.gentoo.org hosting merging

2014-06-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
(Please note this is to to -core and -dev, with reply-to on -dev) TL;DR: overlays and the main repos will now live on the same server Hi all, Hopefully everybody has seen my email about Gentoo Infrastructure losing a lot of servers soon. If not, see [1]. This is one of the emails to work on reduc

[gentoo-dev] Re: svn{.overlays,}.gentoo.org hosting discontinued; git{.overlays,}.gentoo.org hosting merging

2014-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:26:47 + "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > All remaining SVN repos will be migrated to Git. > This applies to both svn.gentoo.org and svn.overlays.gentoo.org > This is being tracked in bug #513182 [2] > > There are very few repos that still actively commit new content. > Here

[gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, Some time ago we've got bug #510780 [1] asking us to bump subslot on LLVM even though the new version was ABI-compatible with previous one. It was because it introduced new APIs which applications could make use of. Since I believe this is a wider issue, I would like to know the opinion of our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than necessary. This shouldn't be considered to be a problem. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread hasufell
Ciaran McCreesh: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: >> However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than necessary. > > This shouldn't be considered to be a problem. > Why not?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:32:56 + hasufell wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > > Michał Górny wrote: > >> However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than > >> necessary. > > > > This shouldn't be considered to be a problem. > > Why not? If "not having

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:13 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than necessary. > > This shouldn't be considered to be a problem. This would be suicide for Gentoo as a distro. Organizati

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:50:29 -0400 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:13 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than > > > necessary. > > > > This shouldn't be con

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Georg Rudoy
14 июня 2014 г. 19:45 пользователь "Ciaran McCreesh" < ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com> написал: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:32:56 + > hasufell wrote: > > Ciaran McCreesh: > > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > > > Michał Górny wrote: > > >> However, this means that we force much more rebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/06/14 10:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hi, > > Some time ago we've got bug #510780 [1] asking us to bump subslot > on LLVM even though the new version was ABI-compatible with > previous one. It was because it introduced new APIs which > applic

[gentoo-dev] Re: Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 06/15/2014 02:05 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > I vote that as primary policy/general practice, it only be bumped for > (2) -- the primary purpose of subslot rebuilds is to allow portage to > figure out the deptree order when a dependency upgrade is going to > break a package that may or may not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread hasufell
Ciaran McCreesh: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:32:56 + > hasufell wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh: >>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 >>> Michał Górny wrote: However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than necessary. >>> >>> This shouldn't be considered to be a problem. >> >> Why

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:56 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:50:29 -0400 > Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:13 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > However, this means that we force m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:16:20 + hasufell wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:32:56 + > > hasufell wrote: > >> Ciaran McCreesh: > >>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > >>> Michał Górny wrote: > However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than > necess

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread hasufell
Ian Stakenvicius: > > > I vote that as primary policy/general practice, it only be bumped for > (2) -- the primary purpose of subslot rebuilds is to allow portage to > figure out the deptree order when a dependency upgrade is going to > break a package that may or may not be emerged later. "brea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread hasufell
Ciaran McCreesh: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:16:20 + > hasufell wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh: >>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:32:56 + >>> hasufell wrote: Ciaran McCreesh: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: >> However, this means that we force much more rebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 12:17:52 -0400 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:56 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:50:29 -0400 > > Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:13 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 17:31 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 12:17:52 -0400 > Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:56 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:50:29 -0400 > > > Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:13

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:41 +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > Considering the libtool versioning, there are two kinds of library > bumps relevant to us: > > 1) when ABI is altered in backwards-compatible way (so old stuff is not > touched), > > 2) when ABI is altered in backwards-incompatible way. Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 12:50 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > Example: glib and gobject-introspection. s/gobject-introspection/dbus-glib/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] Re: Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 06/15/2014 02:50 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:41 +0200, Michał Górny wrote: >> Considering the libtool versioning, there are two kinds of library >> bumps relevant to us: >> >> 1) when ABI is altered in backwards-compatible way (so old stuff is not >> touched), >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: svn{.overlays,}.gentoo.org hosting discontinued; git{.overlays,}.gentoo.org hosting merging

2014-06-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 02:38:04AM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:26:47 + > "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > > > All remaining SVN repos will be migrated to Git. > > This applies to both svn.gentoo.org and svn.overlays.gentoo.org > > This is being tracked in bug #513182 [2] > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 12:17:52 -0400 > Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: >> On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:56 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:50:29 -0400 >> > Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: >> > > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:13 +01

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in games-strategy/openxcom: openxcom-1.0.0.ebuild metadata.xml Manifest ChangeLog

2014-06-14 Thread hasufell
Maxim Koltsov (maksbotan): > # Copyright 1999-2014 Gentoo Foundation > # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 > # $Header: > /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/games-strategy/openxcom/openxcom-1.0.0.ebuild,v 1.1 > 2014/06/14 16:15:27 maksbotan Exp $ > > EAPI=5 > > inherit cmake

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in games-strategy/openxcom: openxcom-1.0.0.ebuild metadata.xml Manifest ChangeLog

2014-06-14 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
В письме от Сб, 14 июня 2014 20:06:54 пользователь hasufell написал: > Maxim Koltsov (maksbotan): > <...> What about adding such checks in repoman? P.S. > Did you get a review from the games team? You're right in all remarks, but Maxim is just proxy here. And I'm not sure if original maintaine

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in games-strategy/openxcom: openxcom-1.0.0.ebuild metadata.xml Manifest ChangeLog

2014-06-14 Thread hasufell
Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov: > В письме от Сб, 14 июня 2014 20:06:54 пользователь hasufell написал: >> Maxim Koltsov (maksbotan): >> <...> > > What about adding such checks in repoman? > which one?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in games-strategy/openxcom: openxcom-1.0.0.ebuild metadata.xml Manifest ChangeLog

2014-06-14 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:50:06 +0700 "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" wrote: > You're right in all remarks, but Maxim is just proxy here. And that's where the whole proxy maintainership falls down, isn't it? The committer should check for and take responsibility for any QA issues that may arise.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in games-strategy/openxcom: openxcom-1.0.0.ebuild metadata.xml Manifest ChangeLog

2014-06-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:50:06 +0700 > "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" wrote: > >> You're right in all remarks, but Maxim is just proxy here. > > And that's where the whole proxy maintainership falls down, isn't it? > The committer should check f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Saturday 14 June 2014 11:50:29 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:13 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > > > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than necessary. > > > > This shouldn't be consid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in games-strategy/openxcom: openxcom-1.0.0.ebuild metadata.xml Manifest ChangeLog

2014-06-14 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:17:49 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > Sure, those who commit are responsible for QA, but in general we > should be going easy on them, especially for minor stuff. Nobody was going hard on anyone. hasufell replied to an automated e-mail, blaming no one in particular for a few i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in games-strategy/openxcom: openxcom-1.0.0.ebuild metadata.xml Manifest ChangeLog

2014-06-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:17:49 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Sure, those who commit are responsible for QA, but in general we >> should be going easy on them, especially for minor stuff. > > Nobody was going hard on anyone. hasufell replie