Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/22/2013 08:38 AM, Sergey Popov wrote: > 21.08.2013 22:28, Alexis Ballier пишет: >> >> Instead of dropping them entirely to ~arch, maybe something in >> between could be done: Said arches could start moving to ~arch >> the leaf and less importa

[gentoo-dev] Header files and ABI_X86

2013-08-22 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Now that Gentoo is much better in handling multilib libraries, but Gentoo is source-based, there's the question of which header files are used between different ABI builds. As I understand it, only the headers from the default ABI are installed. That means that building for abi_x86_32 on a am

Re: [gentoo-dev] Header files and ABI_X86

2013-08-22 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-22, o godz. 10:56:10 Nikos Chantziaras napisał(a): > Now that Gentoo is much better in handling multilib libraries, but > Gentoo is source-based, there's the question of which header files are > used between different ABI builds. > > As I understand it, only the headers from the d

[gentoo-dev] Re: Header files and ABI_X86

2013-08-22 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 22/08/13 11:16, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-22, o godz. 10:56:10 Nikos Chantziaras napisał(a): Now that Gentoo is much better in handling multilib libraries, but Gentoo is source-based, there's the question of which header files are used between different ABI builds. As I understand i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-22 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-21, o godz. 12:33:14 Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Proposed implementation follows: > > > einstalldocs() { > > if ! declare -p DOCS &>/dev/null ; then > > local d > > for d in README* ChangeLog AUTHORS NEWS TOD

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-22 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-21, o godz. 14:49:45 Pacho Ramos napisał(a): > El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 14:35 +0200, Ulrich Mueller escribió: > > > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > Could appending to DOCS be allowed? I have seen a lot of time of me > > > needing to install all docs "manually"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-22 Thread Michał Górny
Second version: einstalldocs() { if ! declare -p DOCS &>/dev/null ; then local d for d in README* ChangeLog AUTHORS NEWS TODO CHANGES \ THANKS BUGS FAQ CREDITS CHANGELOG ; do [[ -s ${d} ]] && dodoc "${d}" done elif [[ $(declare -p DOCS) =

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-22 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Michał Górny wrote: > Second version: Looks good to me. One minor non-technical point: Could you use double quotes instead of single quotes around "declare -a", for better readability? Last time we had single quotes they ended up as backquotes in the devmanual and from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 22 August 2013 01:19, Matt Turner wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> Is there an alternative? afaik a profile can be either stable,dev or >>> exp. I can't see how we can implement something between >>> s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Markos Chandras
On 22 August 2013 11:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 22 August 2013 01:19, Matt Turner wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Markos Chandras >>> wrote: Is there an alternative? afaik a profile can be either stable,dev or exp.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Ben de Groot
On 22 August 2013 18:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 22 August 2013 01:19, Matt Turner wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Markos Chandras >>> wrote: Is there an alternative? afaik a profile can be either stable,dev or exp.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 22 August 2013 11:01, Rich Freeman wrote: >> I think the result of a policy like this would be that stable keywords >> would get dropped on most peripheral packages, but system packages >> might still keep them. > > What's the point of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Markos Chandras
On 22 August 2013 12:24, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 22 August 2013 11:01, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> I think the result of a policy like this would be that stable keywords >>> would get dropped on most peripheral packages, but system packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Weber
On 08/22/2013 01:28 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 22 August 2013 12:24, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> On 22 August 2013 11:01, Rich Freeman wrote: I think the result of a policy like this would be that stable keywords would get dro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Markos Chandras
On 22 August 2013 13:17, Michael Weber wrote: > > Having a mixed setup isn't that absurd as you want it to be. > And forcing users to not use it renders all package.{accepted_,}keywords > granularity moot. > > It's like nailing them to debian stable or debian testing w/o backports > or anything. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Sergey Popov
22.08.2013 16:26, Markos Chandras пишет: > On 22 August 2013 13:17, Michael Weber wrote: >> >> Having a mixed setup isn't that absurd as you want it to be. >> And forcing users to not use it renders all package.{accepted_,}keywords >> granularity moot. >> >> It's like nailing them to debian stable

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-22 Thread Sergey Popov
22.08.2013 06:05, Albert Hopkins пишет: > This sounds like cool stuff... I wonder if this could be a step towards > unprivileged users being able to use portage for user-installed apps. > Try Prefix[1], it works very well in some cases ;-) [1] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/prefix/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Weber
On 08/22/2013 02:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 22 August 2013 13:17, Michael Weber wrote: >> >> Having a mixed setup isn't that absurd as you want it to be. >> And forcing users to not use it renders all package.{accepted_,}keywords >> granularity moot. >> >> It's like nailing them to debian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 22/08/13 06:19 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > What's the point of that? Most users need more than what @system > provides so after they deploy the 'stable' stage3 they will start > pulling ~arch packages that were never tested against the stable >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-22 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-21, o godz. 22:05:21 Albert Hopkins napisał(a): > This sounds like cool stuff... I wonder if this could be a step towards > unprivileged users being able to use portage for user-installed apps. I doubt it. Especially that those features actually require root privileges to be enabled

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:47:18 +0200 Michael Weber wrote: > On 08/22/2013 02:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > > I said that it is a combination not well tested so we do not > > encourage this. Users are free to do whatever they want. > Actually every other post is about keywording special versions o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 22 August 2013 12:24, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Do we actually have examples of this happening? I've never had >> problems with a mix of stable and ~arch keywords. Granted, I'm not >> running ~arch on most libs. > > Wow! That is somethi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-misc/gnote: gnote-3.8.1.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-08-22 Thread Markos Chandras
> RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-misc/gnote/ChangeLog,v > retrieving revision 1.34 > retrieving revision 1.35 > diff -u -r1.34 -r1.35 > --- ChangeLog 22 Aug 2013 16:14:52 - 1.34 > +++ ChangeLog 22 Aug 2013 16:36:24 - 1.35 > @@ -1,6 +1,9 @@ > # ChangeLog for app-misc/gn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 22. August 2013, 13:28:24 schrieb Markos Chandras: > > > > Do we actually have examples of this happening? I've never had > > problems with a mix of stable and ~arch keywords. Granted, I'm not > > running ~arch on most libs. > > Wow! That is something we actively encourage people

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 09:03:35AM +0200, Michael Weber wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 08/22/2013 08:38 AM, Sergey Popov wrote: > > 21.08.2013 22:28, Alexis Ballier пишет: > >> > >> Instead of dropping them entirely to ~arch, maybe something in > >> between coul

[gentoo-dev] Using use.stable.mask

2013-08-22 Thread Ole Markus With
Hi, It seems to be a pattern now to mask the language "target" USE flags for unstable versions, such as python_targets_python3_3 and php_targets_php5-5. This is very handy since e.g I do not need two revisions of dev-php/xdebug: - one that can be stabilised, supporting stable php5.3 and php5.4an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-misc/gnote: gnote-3.8.1.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-08-22 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-22, o godz. 19:13:25 Markos Chandras napisał(a): > > RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-misc/gnote/ChangeLog,v > > retrieving revision 1.34 > > retrieving revision 1.35 > > diff -u -r1.34 -r1.35 > > --- ChangeLog 22 Aug 2013 16:14:52 - 1.34 > > +++ ChangeLog 22 Aug 20

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using use.stable.mask

2013-08-22 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-22, o godz. 21:08:52 Ole Markus With napisał(a): > However, now the time has come for php5.5 to be stabilised, and all is > working great except that I cannot remove php_targets_php5-5 from > use.stable.mask until all arches have stabilised php. For those arches > with stable php5.5,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using use.stable.mask

2013-08-22 Thread Zac Medico
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Ole Markus With wrote: > However, now the time has come for php5.5 to be stabilised, and all is > working great except that I cannot remove php_targets_php5-5 from > use.stable.mask until all arches have stabilised php. You could have separate use.stable.mask ent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using use.stable.mask

2013-08-22 Thread Ole Markus With
On 22/08/13 21:27, Zac Medico wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Ole Markus With > wrote: >> However, now the time has come for php5.5 to be stabilised, and all is >> working great except that I cannot remove php_targets_php5-5 from >> use.stable.mask until all arches have stabilised php.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using use.stable.mask

2013-08-22 Thread Zac Medico
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Ole Markus With wrote: > On 22/08/13 21:27, Zac Medico wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Ole Markus With >> wrote: >>> However, now the time has come for php5.5 to be stabilised, and all is >>> working great except that I cannot remove php_targets_php5-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Jack Morgan
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 01:30:59PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:09:55 +0200 > Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Markos Chandras > > wrote: > > > I propose the following arches to lose their stable keywords > > > > > > - s390 > > > - sh > > > - ia