On 08/22/2013 01:28 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 22 August 2013 12:24, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoar...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> On 22 August 2013 11:01, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>> I think the result of a policy like this would be that stable keywords >>>> would get dropped on most peripheral packages, but system packages >>>> might still keep them. >>> >>> What's the point of that? Most users need more than what @system >>> provides so after they deploy the 'stable' stage3 they will >>> start pulling ~arch packages that were never tested against the stable >>> tree. It so much better if stage3 was also ~arch. >> >> Do we actually have examples of this happening? I've never had >> problems with a mix of stable and ~arch keywords. Granted, I'm not >> running ~arch on most libs. > > Wow! That is something we actively encourage people to avoid. Mixed > systems are totally > unsupported and I am sure quite a few bugs are closed as invalid when > a mixed system is detected. > > It may work on regular basis but encouraging and supporting such > configurations is definitely not desirable. Actually this what Gentoo is all about - for me. Having the option of a well tested stable system and just bleeding edge where wanted (i have ~10% of my packages from arch and it works like a charm, and like only one bug report of mine was closed due an mixed arch issue).
Having a mixed setup isn't that absurd as you want it to be. And forcing users to not use it renders all package.{accepted_,}keywords granularity moot. It's like nailing them to debian stable or debian testing w/o backports or anything. Please stop dooming this possibility. Mixing together software versions isn't that much of a magic as you make of it. > It's also a bit ehm, funny, to give them a stable stage3 and then tell > them that for everything else, please use ~arch. (I'm not saying that it doesn't hurt in some places, but it's manageable, as is living on arches with stable core and very few stable leave packages, like I've been doing on sparc, ppc and arm.) -- Michael Weber Gentoo Developer web: https://xmw.de/ mailto: Michael Weber <x...@gentoo.org>