Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed removal of service: torrents.gentoo.org

2012-12-26 Thread Sergey Popov
23.12.2012 22:49, Robin H. Johnson пишет: > torrents.gentoo.org has been down for a few months now, and there have > been very few comments about it. Up until a few years ago, it was still > quite useful, but I believe that we have sufficient bandwidth and > mirror-coverage around the world that it

[gentoo-dev] default mta

2012-12-26 Thread Eray Aslan
The current default mta in gentoo - ssmtp - has a more or less dead upstream and has some outstanding bugs. It is prudent to change our default mta. Both mail-mta/nullmailer and mail-mta/msmtp are lightweight good mtas. Both packages have active development and provide AUTH and SSL/TLS support.

Re: [gentoo-dev] default mta

2012-12-26 Thread Mike Pagano
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 09:46:17 AM Eray Aslan wrote: > The current default mta in gentoo - ssmtp - has a more or less dead > upstream and has some outstanding bugs. It is prudent to change our > default mta. > > Both mail-mta/nullmailer and mail-mta/msmtp are lightweight good mtas. > Bot

Re: [gentoo-dev] default mta

2012-12-26 Thread Eray Aslan
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 06:42:36AM -0500, Mike Pagano wrote: > Would it be prudent to coordinate Gentoo documentation changes with the above? Ugh, I wasn't aware of any documentation that needs to be changed and a quick look/search did not turn out anything. But if there are any, sure, I will ope

[gentoo-dev] Re: default mta

2012-12-26 Thread Duncan
Eray Aslan posted on Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:46:17 + as excerpted: > The current default mta in gentoo - ssmtp - has a more or less dead > upstream and has some outstanding bugs. It is prudent to change our > default mta. > > Both mail-mta/nullmailer and mail-mta/msmtp are lightweight good mtas.

Re: [gentoo-dev] default mta

2012-12-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Dec 26, 2012 8:46 AM, "Eray Aslan" wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 06:42:36AM -0500, Mike Pagano wrote: > > Would it be prudent to coordinate Gentoo documentation changes with the above? > > Ugh, I wasn't aware of any documentation that needs to be changed and a > quick look/search did not t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-26 Thread Kent Fredric
On 19/12/2012 10:03 p.m., Michał Górny wrote: Doesn't this prove that the recruitment process fails to work? If I were to throw random ideas, I'd think about letting new recruits did all commits through a proxy (mentor?). Of course, it all would be easier if we used git. I know this side ques

[gentoo-dev] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-26 Thread Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon
Good afternoon, In less than two weeks, on Tuesday January the 8th, the council will meet again. Now is the time to prepare & raise items that you feel should be put to a vote. Please reply to this e-mail with any suggested agenda items. Even if you have raised the issue on a mailing list bef

Re: [gentoo-dev] tools-portage herd unmaintained packages

2012-12-26 Thread Paul Varner
On 12/25/12 08:09, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mar, 06-11-2012 a las 12:35 -0600, Paul Varner escribió: >> All: >> >> The following packages in the tools-portage herd are effectively >> unmaintained packages and need a maintainer to step up and maintain them. >> >> app-portage/deltup >> app-portage/epm

Re: [gentoo-dev] tools-portage herd unmaintained packages

2012-12-26 Thread Paul Varner
On 12/25/12 12:03, Sven Eden wrote: > Hi all, > > what has happened to app-portage/ufed? I could take care of it. I am > no official dev, but maybe via a proxy maintainership? Would that be > possible? Yes, I'm willing to proxy maintain app-portage/ufed. The sources are available from overlays.ge

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cp

2012-12-26 Thread Markos Chandras
On Dec 25, 2012 8:33 PM, "Pacho Ramos" wrote: > > > # Pacho Ramos (25 Dec 2012) > # Fails to build with libav-9 (#443238). Removal in a month. > media-libs/libdlna > media-video/ushare > This is not a valid reason to remove it. I use it every day. Please remove the masking. You should have contac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers > that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity > packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still > contributing to the distro in man

Questions about proxy-maint (Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers)

2012-12-26 Thread Kent Fredric
On 27 December 2012 05:39, Kent Fredric wrote: > It could actually be just the Proxy Maintainer workflow is not clear enough, > or simple enough, and that we need more push towards a more heavy > proxy-maintainer based system ( I don't know, I'm ignorant to too much of > proxy-maintainer-ship stuf

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cp

2012-12-26 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 17:14 +, Markos Chandras escribió: > > On Dec 25, 2012 8:33 PM, "Pacho Ramos" wrote: > > > > > > # Pacho Ramos (25 Dec 2012) > > # Fails to build with libav-9 (#443238). Removal in a month. > > media-libs/libdlna > > media-video/ushare > > > This is not a valid reaso

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mo

2012-12-26 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 19:46 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 17:14 +, Markos Chandras escribió: > > > > On Dec 25, 2012 8:33 PM, "Pacho Ramos" wrote: > > > > > > > > > # Pacho Ramos (25 Dec 2012) > > > # Fails to build with libav-9 (#443238). Removal in a month. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] tools-portage herd unmaintained packages

2012-12-26 Thread Paul Varner
On 12/26/12 11:00, Paul Varner wrote: > On 12/25/12 08:09, Pacho Ramos wrote: >> El mar, 06-11-2012 a las 12:35 -0600, Paul Varner escribió: >>> All: >>> >>> The following packages in the tools-portage herd are effectively >>> unmaintained packages and need a maintainer to step up and maintain them

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mo

2012-12-26 Thread Markos Chandras
On 26 December 2012 21:25, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 19:46 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: >> El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 17:14 +, Markos Chandras escribió: >> > >> > On Dec 25, 2012 8:33 PM, "Pacho Ramos" wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > # Pacho Ramos (25 Dec 2012) >> > > # Fails t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mo

2012-12-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 26/12/2012 23:19, Markos Chandras wrote: > To be honest, I see no reason for masking packages for removal because > they don't build with libav-9. I don't know much about libav-9 but to > my understanding it is supposed to provide an API similar to ffmpeg > (that's why we have the virtual after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mo

2012-12-26 Thread Markos Chandras
On 27 December 2012 00:25, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 26/12/2012 23:19, Markos Chandras wrote: >> To be honest, I see no reason for masking packages for removal because >> they don't build with libav-9. I don't know much about libav-9 but to >> my understanding it is supposed to provide an API

Re: Questions about proxy-maint (Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers)

2012-12-26 Thread Markos Chandras
On 26 December 2012 20:43, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 27 December 2012 05:39, Kent Fredric wrote: >> It could actually be just the Proxy Maintainer workflow is not clear enough, >> or simple enough, and that we need more push towards a more heavy >> proxy-maintainer based system ( I don't know, I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-26 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 05:39:00 +1300 Kent Fredric wrote: > On 19/12/2012 10:03 p.m., Michał Górny wrote: > > If I were to throw random ideas, I'd think about letting new > > recruits did all commits through a proxy (mentor?). Of course, it > > all would be easier if we used git. For once someone s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Jeroen Roovers wrote: > For once someone suggests a single good case where git beats CVS for > portage tree changes: easily checking suggested changes ... Did you look at Gerrit one of the many times I mentioned it already? That is what it is for, and it is pretty great. > A shiny new workflow

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript & --libdir=/lib

2012-12-26 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:48:23PM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 24/12/2012 20:08, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > i.e. saying "we should get rid of gen_usr_ldscript and use --libdir=/lib" > > makes absolutely no sense. it's just begging for people to screw things up > > constantly and waste d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-26 Thread Kent Fredric
On 27 December 2012 13:32, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > What you want to do is contact your mentor - that is the person who > should be able to point out where to find the actual answer or just > tell you what the answer is - the point of the quizes is to properly > teach you how things work, not how

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript & --libdir=/lib

2012-12-26 Thread Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon
On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote: > Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the > council has not mandated that we support separate /usr without an > initramfs, I am re-considering this. So now that the /usr-merge steamroller can not break systems through udev