Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

2011-07-31 Thread netfab
Le 31/07/11 à 04:40, Samuli a tapoté : > > If there's any option that allows the use of a separate /usr > > partition without an initramfs, then let's explore it. I don't feel > > like having to use an initramfs just because I want a small / > > without /usr on it. > > The message is really missin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

2011-07-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/31/2011 10:20 AM, netfab wrote: > Le 31/07/11 à 04:40, Samuli a tapoté : >>> If there's any option that allows the use of a separate /usr >>> partition without an initramfs, then let's explore it. I don't feel >>> like having to use an initramfs just because I want a small / >>> without /usr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

2011-07-31 Thread Christopher Head
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 04:40:33 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> Can we discuss both options? > > If there's any option that allows the use of a separate /usr > > partition without an initramfs, then let's explore it. I don't feel > > like having to us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

2011-07-31 Thread netfab
Le 31/07/11 à 11:15, Samuli a tapoté : > > System reactivity. I have an old setup with multiple partitions on > > multiple hard-drives mounted on multiple system directories. > > And why is both using an initramfs [...] an problem? > No problem for me. If I have to do it, I will. In fact I alrea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

2011-07-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/31/2011 04:56 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 04:40:33AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 07/31/2011 03:59 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >>> On 30-07-2011 22:17, William Hubbs wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:27:27AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Sinc

[gentoo-dev] removing ebuilds

2011-07-31 Thread Michael Sterrett
Just as a reminder - you can't break the stable tree by removing ebuilds even if there's a big scary security bug. I restored the latest stable ebuild until the arch teams do their thing for bug #377143

[gentoo-dev] Re: removing ebuilds

2011-07-31 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 05:29:52 -0400 Michael Sterrett wrote: > Just as a reminder - you can't break the stable tree by removing > ebuilds even if there's a big scary security bug. Well it wasn't done on purpose. > I restored the latest stable ebuild until the arch teams do their > thing for bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

2011-07-31 Thread Kacper Kowalik
W dniu 30.07.2011 15:55, Samuli Suominen pisze: > On 07/30/2011 01:46 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:27:27 +0300 >> Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on top >>> of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a lon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

2011-07-31 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:55:23 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > I dislike the IUSE="+static" some packages are currently doing to > workaround this, instead of moving the needed shared libs to / > > I dislike the idea of pciutils and usbutils database(s) in > non-standard location in / to keep udev

[gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-07-31 Thread Anthony G. Basile
Hi everyone, A couple of days ago, bonsaikitten (Patrick), kerframil (Kerin Millar) and myself were talking about other distros moving away from setuid binaries towards caps. Openwall and Fedora are now setuid-less [1]. Some googling showed that Constanze has done quite a bit of work in the area

[gentoo-dev] RFC: an eclass to handle optional runtime depends

2011-07-31 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, all. The last discussion on new solutions optional runtime depends lead to no agreement. Thus, I'd like to propose a solution extending the usability of current methods of handling them. My idea is to create an eclass which would take a optional dependency list (e.g. through some kind of S

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: an eclass to handle optional runtime depends

2011-07-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:27:21 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > My idea is to create an eclass which would take a optional dependency > list (e.g. through some kind of SDEPEND variable or so [being a bash > array!]) and print it out to user in pkg_postinst(). Please don't. This should be worked out and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh statistics updated

2011-07-31 Thread Raúl Porcel
On 07/22/2011 03:11 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > Hello fellow devs, > [snip] Yey i'm number two :D

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: an eclass to handle optional runtime depends

2011-07-31 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 7/31/11 8:27 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > The last discussion on new solutions optional runtime depends lead to no > agreement. Thus, I'd like to propose a solution extending the usability > of current methods of handling them. I'm interested in some sort of suggested/recommend deps for www-client

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-07-31 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > A couple of days ago, bonsaikitten (Patrick), kerframil (Kerin Millar) > and myself were talking about other distros moving away from setuid > binaries towards caps.  Openwall and Fedora are now setuid-less [1]. > Some go

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh statistics updated

2011-07-31 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Raúl Porcel wrote: > On 07/22/2011 03:11 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: >> Hello fellow devs, >> [snip] > > Yey i'm number two :D > You're a bot, you don't count. ;) -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-07-31 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/31/2011 03:46 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Anthony G. Basile > wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> A couple of days ago, bonsaikitten (Patrick), kerframil (Kerin Millar) >> and myself were talking about other distros moving away from setuid >> binaries towards cap

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-07-31 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 01:16:21 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Anthony G. Basile > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A couple of days ago, bonsaikitten (Patrick), kerframil (Kerin > > Millar) and myself were talking about other distros moving away > > from setuid bina

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-07-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:28:35 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > Will packages always explicitly set caps themselves or will sometimes > upstream do that for us? I've no doubt some upstreams will try... But userpriv should stop most of the damage. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP sig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

2011-07-31 Thread Chris Coleman
On 30 July 2011 08:27, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on top of > / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long time now[1][2][3] > > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235 > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2011-07-31 23h59 UTC

2011-07-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2011-07-31 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-lang/ekopath-bin2011-07-25 18:27:17 xarthisius x11-themes/mythtv-themes-extra 2011-07-28 21:02:05 cardoe media-plugins/