As suggested by ssuominen on bug #311101, I am posting the issue
to the mailing list.
Currently, various SCM eclasses differ very much in the subset
of features and control variables implemented. The idea is to establish
a single subset of such variables and rules for all SCM eclasses
to follow, a
2010-03-23 20:28:38 Ben de Groot napisał(a):
> On 23 March 2010 20:13, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
> wrote:
> > I'm attaching updated news item, which will be committed soon.
>
> As mentioned in the other thread, this news item should mention
> that users who do not need python-3 should m
On 24 March 2010 17:43, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
wrote:
> 2010-03-23 20:28:38 Ben de Groot napisał(a):
>> On 23 March 2010 20:13, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
>> wrote:
>> > I'm attaching updated news item, which will be committed soon.
>>
>> As mentioned in the other thread, th
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:56 +0100
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> 2010-03-23 20:28:38 Ben de Groot napisał(a):
> > As mentioned in the other thread, this news item should mention
> > that users who do not need python-3 should mask it locally to
> > prevent it from being pulled into
Michał Górny posted on Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:28:38 +0100 as excerpted:
> As suggested by ssuominen on bug #311101, I am posting the issue to the
> mailing list.
>
> Currently, various SCM eclasses differ very much in the subset of
> features and control variables implemented. The idea is to establi
2010-03-24 17:57:35 Joshua Saddler napisał(a):
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:56 +0100
> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>
> > 2010-03-23 20:28:38 Ben de Groot napisał(a):
> > > As mentioned in the other thread, this news item should mention
> > > that users who do not need python-3 shoul
2010-03-24 17:56:48 Ben de Groot napisał(a):
> On 24 March 2010 17:43, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
> wrote:
> > 2010-03-23 20:28:38 Ben de Groot napisał(a):
> >> On 23 March 2010 20:13, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
> >> wrote:
> >> > I'm attaching updated news item, which will be c
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:14:44 +0100
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> 2010-03-24 17:57:35 Joshua Saddler napisał(a):
> > On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:56 +0100
> > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > > Python maintainers do not recommend to mask Python 3.
> >
> > But everyone e
On 24 March 2010 18:23, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
wrote:
> 2010-03-24 17:56:48 Ben de Groot napisał(a):
>> On 24 March 2010 17:43, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
>> wrote:
>> > 2010-03-23 20:28:38 Ben de Groot napisał(a):
>> >> On 23 March 2010 20:13, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Ara
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:14:44 +0100
> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>
>> 2010-03-24 17:57:35 Joshua Saddler napisał(a):
>> > On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:56 +0100
>> > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>> > > Python main
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 24 March 2010 18:23, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
> wrote:
>> 2010-03-24 17:56:48 Ben de Groot napisał(a):
>>> On 24 March 2010 17:43, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
>>> wrote:
>>> > 2010-03-23 20:28:38 Ben de Groot napisał(a
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:35:21 +0100
Ben de Groot wrote:
> I'll take that as a yes then, you are indeed disregarding the concerns
> and recommendations of your fellow Gentoo developers.
>
> CC'ing devrel because this is getting out of hand.
Looks like an extremely "productive" thread... /me poin
2010-03-24 18:32:37 Joshua Saddler napisał(a):
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:14:44 +0100
> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>
> > 2010-03-24 17:57:35 Joshua Saddler napisał(a):
> > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:56 +0100
> > > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > > > Python maintaine
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:32:37 -0700, Joshua Saddler
wrote:
>> > But everyone else in Gentoo does, so . . .
>>
>> Some Gentoo developers/users, who aren't Python maintainers, said that
>> they didn't object to have Python 3 installed.
>
> They're in the minority, judging by the replies in this th
On 3/24/10 6:35 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>> All valid concerns about text already included in the news item have been
>> addressed. We don't need to include any unofficial recommendations.
>
> I'll take that as a yes then, you are indeed disregarding the concerns
> and recommendations of your fello
Am 24.03.2010 18:45, schrieb Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis:
> 2010-03-24 18:32:37 Joshua Saddler napisał(a):
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:14:44 +0100
>> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>>> Some Gentoo developers/users, who aren't Python maintainers, said that
>>> they didn't object
2010-03-23 20:57:33 Jonathan Callen napisał(a):
> On 03/23/2010 03:13 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > I'm attaching updated news item, which will be committed soon.
> >
>
> A couple grammar issues:
>
> -modules, which support both Python 2 and Python 3, are installed for both
>
2010-03-24 18:51:48 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. napisał(a):
> On 3/24/10 6:35 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> >> All valid concerns about text already included in the news item have been
> >> addressed. We don't need to include any unofficial recommendations.
> >
> > I'll take that as a yes then, you are indeed d
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 05:47:18PM +, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:32:37 -0700, Joshua Saddler
> wrote:
> >> > But everyone else in Gentoo does, so . . .
Really? I've seen a few people object, but not everyone in gentoo.
> >>
> >> Some Gentoo developers/users, who aren't
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:04:51 +0100
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> People, don't want Python 3, probably have already masked it. There is
> no reason to waste Council's time for decision on what sentence should
> be included in the news item.
Not the folks running the stable tree, be
I took a look at qemu-kvm and found something I percieve as funny:
It had a gnutls use-flag, but no ssl useflag.
As I see it is I want ssl/tls support it should be sufficient to enable
USE="ssl" and let the maintainer of said ebuild decide which
implementation (if more then one) I am better off wi
On 03/24/2010 02:28 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:04:51 +0100 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar
Arahesis wrote:
People, don't want Python 3, probably have already masked it. There
is no reason to waste Council's time for decision on what sentence
should be included in the news item.
On 24 March 2010 19:41, Richard Freeman wrote:
> On 03/24/2010 02:28 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:04:51 +0100 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar
>> Arahesis wrote:
>>>
>>> People, don't want Python 3, probably have already masked it. There
>>> is no reason to waste Council's tim
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:41:28PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote:
> On 03/24/2010 02:28 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:04:51 +0100 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar
> > Arahesis wrote:
> >> People, don't want Python 3, probably have already masked it. There
> >> is no reason to waste
William Hubbs posted on Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:03:34 -0500 as excerpted:
> If users do not want python-3 on
> their systems, that is what /etc/portage/package.mask is for.
I think pretty much everyone agrees with that. What we're debating is
whether the stabling news item should specifically menti
Am 24.03.2010 19:03, schrieb William Hubbs:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 05:47:18PM +, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:32:37 -0700, Joshua Saddler
>> wrote:
> But everyone else in Gentoo does, so . . .
>
> Really? I've seen a few people object, but not everyone in gentoo.
>
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 08:57:20PM +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Am 24.03.2010 19:03, schrieb William Hubbs:
> > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 05:47:18PM +, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:32:37 -0700, Joshua Saddler
> >> wrote:
> > But everyone else in Gentoo does, so . . .
On 24 March 2010 21:25, William Hubbs wrote:
> If we make it clear in the news item that python-3 cannot be used as the
> default python, so if users do not want it they should mask it, we have
> done our job imho. In other words, this is just a matter of informing
> users.
We agree that this is
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:36:52PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 24 March 2010 21:25, William Hubbs wrote:
> > If we make it clear in the news item that python-3 cannot be used as the
> > default python, so if users do not want it they should mask it, we have
> > done our job imho. In other wor
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:36:52PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 24 March 2010 21:25, William Hubbs wrote:
> > If we make it clear in the news item that python-3 cannot be used as the
> > default python, so if users do not want it they should mask it, we have
> > done our job imho. In other wor
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:12:55 -0500
William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:36:52PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
> > We agree that this is the minimum that should be done. But our
> > Python lead stubbornly refuses to honor this reasonable request.
>
> On the other hand, I can see his p
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