Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 02:07:02 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:48:39 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > > James Cloos wrote: > > > When you first psoted this list I noticed some (or several?) live > > > ebuilds. Git- is the one I remember. > > > > > > Those should not get nuked during

[gentoo-dev] Re: perl-5.10.1 status update

2009-10-27 Thread Torsten Veller
* Torsten Veller: > After that I'll minimize my perl work if no more people join to help. Plan revised: I stop doing perl work right now. Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 21 October 2009 07:34:18 Michael Haubenwallner wrote: >> Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On Tuesday 20 October 2009 09:06:29 Michael Haubenwallner wrote: As I'm building the toolchain myself too, I configure it with the 32bit host triplet on each platform,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-5.10.1 status update

2009-10-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Torsten Veller wrote: > * Torsten Veller: > > After that I'll minimize my perl work if no more people join to help. > > Plan revised: I stop doing perl work right now. > > Thanks > > Sorry to see you go. Thanks for all that you have done so far anyway, its great

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-5.10.1 status update

2009-10-27 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 11:10:39 Torsten Veller wrote: > * Torsten Veller: > > After that I'll minimize my perl work if no more people join to help. > > Plan revised: I stop doing perl work right now. > Thanks for all the time you spent on perl. I can understand that doing everything by you

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-10-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: > nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 > > Log: > Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added to the > repository > Since when did we start adding "big letters" to other than perl -categories? *Very* ugly.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-5.10.1 status update

2009-10-27 Thread David Abbott
Torsten Veller wrote: > * Torsten Veller: >> After that I'll minimize my perl work if no more people join to help. > > Plan revised: I stop doing perl work right now. > > Thanks > > I am also sorry to see you stop. You have gotten a lot accomplished in a short period of time and it was a joy t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 02:07:02 Ryan Hill wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:48:39 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: >>> James Cloos wrote: When you first psoted this list I noticed some (or several?) live ebuilds. Git- is the one I remember. Those should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-27 Thread Petteri Räty
James Cloos wrote: >> "Petteri" == Petteri Räty writes: > > Petteri> Their maintainers should be active and switch their ebuilds to > Petteri> EAPI 2. If they don't have an active maintainer, then do we > Petteri> want to keep live ebuilds for them around? > > What possible benefit could be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 09:09:48 Petteri Räty wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 02:07:02 Ryan Hill wrote: > >> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:48:39 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > >>> James Cloos wrote: > When you first psoted this list I noticed some (or several?) live > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-27 Thread Richard Freeman
Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 26/10/2009 22:58, Richard Freeman a écrit : Gentoo is about choice. No it isn't. Gentoo is about empowering users, giving them the ability and tools to _change_ the distro to _their_ needs. Gentoo does _not_ cater to all the possible needs. This is somewhat off-topic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:07:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > R??mi Cardona wrote: > > Le 26/10/2009 22:58, Richard Freeman a ??crit : > >> Gentoo is about choice. > > > > No it isn't. Gentoo is about empowering users, giving them the ability > > and tools to _change_ the distro to _their_ n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
William Hubbs schrieb: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:07:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: >> R??mi Cardona wrote: >>> Le 26/10/2009 22:58, Richard Freeman a ??crit : Gentoo is about choice. >>> No it isn't. Gentoo is about empowering users, giving them the ability >>> and tools to _change_ th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 06:43:52PM +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote: > William Hubbs schrieb: > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:07:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > >> R??mi Cardona wrote: > >>> Le 26/10/2009 22:58, Richard Freeman a ??crit : > Gentoo is about choice. > >>> No it isn't. Gentoo is ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-27 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:29 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > I just tested this, and make.conf overrides iuse defaults.  To verify > this for yourself, pick a package with an iuse default turning on a > flag, then turn off the flag in make.conf and check what would happen if > you emerged the package.

[gentoo-dev] Re: adding a modification timestamp to the installed pkgs database (vdb)

2009-10-27 Thread Zac Medico
Brian Harring wrote: > The proposal is pretty simple; if code modifies the vdb in any > fashion, it needs to update the mtime on a file named > '.modification_time' in the root of the vdb. I'd to prefer using the mtime of the /var/db/pkg directory itself, since existence of a '.modification_time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:37:38PM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:29 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > I just tested this, and make.conf overrides iuse defaults. ??To verify > > this for yourself, pick a package with an iuse default turning on a > > flag, then turn off the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 09:09:48 Petteri Räty wrote: >> Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On Tuesday 27 October 2009 02:07:02 Ryan Hill wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:48:39 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > James Cloos wrote: >> When you first psoted this list I noticed som

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 14:46:31 Petteri Räty wrote: > Normally old versions are not kept around as already said if you read > the thread. "normal" is not the same thing as "always". unless you're the maintainer, you have no idea whether old versions are kept there on purpose. ive had people

[gentoo-dev] Re: adding a modification timestamp to the installed pkgs database (vdb)

2009-10-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:32:30AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > Brian Harring wrote: > > The proposal is pretty simple; if code modifies the vdb in any > > fashion, it needs to update the mtime on a file named > > '.modification_time' in the root of the vdb. > > I'd to prefer using the mtime of th