[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-video/undvd: undvd-0.3.0.ebuild metadata.xml ChangeLog Manifest

2007-12-17 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 16 Dec 2007 > 12:49:13 -0800: > >> I think it's valuable to show the flags that actually need to be changed >> rather than a full list of all required flags. > > ++ > I messed about on some

[gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
Hello, attaching the GLEP. most current version: http://dev.gentoo.org/~peper/glep-0055.html http://dev.gentoo.org/~peper/glep-0055.txt -- Best Regards, Piotr Jaroszyński GLEP: 55 Title: Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) Version: $Revision: $ Last-Modified: $Date: $ Author: Piotr Jaroszy

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/12/17, Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~peper/glep-0055.html > * Possibility to extend the versioning rules in an EAPI, and to > use them immediately in the Gentoo tree. For example, addition of > the scm suffix - GLEP54 [1]. ... > Currently ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:40:05 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - metadata/cache: latest PMS i've found (2007/07/08 on dev.g.o/~spb) > says it contains some "/-" files. If a > package manager assumes the "" syntax is the one defined in > the said PMS, and you extend thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Joe Peterson
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > Hello, > > attaching the GLEP. > > most current version: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~peper/glep-0055.html > http://dev.gentoo.org/~peper/glep-0055.txt > > > Abstract > > This GLEP proposes usage of EAPI-suffixed file extensions for ebuilds > (for example, foo-1.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:10:46 -0700 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I probably missed some of the stuff leading up to this GLEP, but what > is the problem with having the EAPI in the file and determining it by > looking at the file contents? Motivation, second bullet point: | Possibility

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Joe Peterson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> I imagine a lot of people do things now like 'find . -name "*.ebuild" >> | xargs grep ...'. Not that they could not change their habbits, but >> forgetting to add a more complex matching rule could lead to errors >> here. > > -name '*.ebuild*' isn't exactly much more com

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/12/18, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:10:46 -0700 > Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I probably missed some of the stuff leading up to this GLEP, but > > what is the problem with having the EAPI in the file and > > determining it by looking a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:30:50 -0700 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> I imagine a lot of people do things now like 'find . -name > >> "*.ebuild" | xargs grep ...'. Not that they could not change > >> their habbits, but forgetting to add a more complex matching ru

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:36:51 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why can't it be in the file but readable without sourcing? For > instance, it could be mandatory that EAPI=X, if present, must be the > first non-blank and non-comment line of the ebuild (and it would then >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 01:36:51 Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > Why can't it be in the file but readable without sourcing? For instance, > it could be mandatory that EAPI=X, if present, must be the first > non-blank and non-comment line of the ebuild (and it would then be > checked after

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Joe Peterson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:36:51 +0100 > Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why can't it be in the file but readable without sourcing? For >> instance, it could be mandatory that EAPI=X, if present, must be the >> first non-blank and non-comment line of t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:05:23 -0700 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This option is worth thinking about more - there may be satisfactory > ways to mediate the issues. It is certainly more elegant Introducing new parse and format requirements upon bash files is most definitely not elegant

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Joe Peterson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:05:23 -0700 > Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This option is worth thinking about more - there may be satisfactory >> ways to mediate the issues. It is certainly more elegant > > Introducing new parse and format requirements upon bash fil

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:20:01 +0100 Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > attaching the GLEP. How does this chord with eclasses that set EAPI, instead of ebuilds? Last I read was that EAPI-set-by-eclass was close to being ratified. Kind regards, JeR -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:41:45 +0100 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does this chord with eclasses that set EAPI, instead of ebuilds? > Last I read was that EAPI-set-by-eclass was close to being ratified. Read where? So far as I'm aware, everyone's been saying "don't set EAPI in an e

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:46:35 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:41:45 +0100 > Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How does this chord with eclasses that set EAPI, instead of ebuilds? > > Last I read was that EAPI-set-by-eclass was close to being rat

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:27:02 +0100 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On this mailing list, in the "EAPI placement" thread. OK, it would seem that discussion has now died in favour of forbidding eclasses setting EAPI altogether. But now, if pkg-5.ebuild-zillion doesn't set an EAPI variab

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | Possibility to extend the behaviour of inherit and add new global > | scope functions (as a result of not sourcing ebuilds with > | unsupported EAPI). It seems to me that this will inconvenience the users, in order to solve a technical problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:17:49 +0100 Ulrich Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > | Possibility to extend the behaviour of inherit and add new global > > | scope functions (as a result of not sourcing ebuilds with > > | unsupported EAPI). > > It s