Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

2006-11-04 Thread Alin Nastac
Jon Portnoy wrote: > I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for > sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop. > > Sad to see another one of us throwing the towel, but I guess this is just life. People came, people go... Thanks for all the things you have do

[gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, As many of you probably know already, bug 46223 [1] prevents the proper uninstallation of a package when one or more of the eclasses that it inherits are missing from the live portage tree. There are essentially two ways to solve this pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Scheme herd team needs some love

2006-11-04 Thread j . romildo
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Matthew Kennedy wrote: > If you have an interest in Scheme and the Gentoo project, I encourage > you to go through the new developer process and start maintaining > these Scheme ebuilds. I am interested in Scheme and the Gentoo project, but I am not a dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Global USE flags (Was: mplayer global use flag)

2006-11-04 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:56:23 -0600, Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Caleb Cushing wrote: > > > maybe it would be a lot of work. to even develop the tools. but it > > would be nice if a global use flag could have a detailed option. > > this has been discussed a few times before. i think

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico kirjoitti: > > What do people think about these two approaches? Personally, I > would prefer approach #2 for the sake of simplicity and > maintainability. The sooner that we start storing eclasses.tbz2 for > each installed package, the sooner that we will be able to have more > freedo

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 04 November 2006 06:14, Petteri Räty wrote: > Zac Medico kirjoitti: > > What do people think about these two approaches? Personally, I > > would prefer approach #2 for the sake of simplicity and > > maintainability. The sooner that we start storing eclasses.tbz2 for > > each installed

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: > Zac Medico kirjoitti: >> What do people think about these two approaches? Personally, I >> would prefer approach #2 for the sake of simplicity and >> maintainability. The sooner that we start storing eclasses.tbz2 for >> each in

[gentoo-dev] Re: Scheme herd team needs some love

2006-11-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Tach j.romildo, 0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID) > I am interested in Scheme and the Gentoo project, but I am not a > developer. As was posted on the latest GWN, maybe it would be a good > idea to enter the recruiting process so that I would become a developer > and help the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Scheme herd team needs some love

2006-11-04 Thread Duncan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 04 Nov 2006 06:47:56 -0300: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Matthew Kennedy wrote: > >> If you have an interest in Scheme and the Gentoo project, I encourage >> you to go through the new developer process and start

Re: [gentoo-dev] Scheme herd team needs some love

2006-11-04 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Sat, 2006-11-04 at 06:47 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Matthew Kennedy wrote: > > > If you have an interest in Scheme and the Gentoo project, I encourage > > you to go through the new developer process and start maintaining > > these Scheme ebuilds.

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 04 Nov 2006 04:08:24 -0800: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> Zac Medico kirjoitti: >>> The sooner that we start storing eclasses.tbz2 for each installed >>> package, the sooner that we will be able to have more freedom with

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Francesco Riosa
Zac Medico ha scritto: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> Zac Medico kirjoitti: >>> What do people think about these two approaches? Personally, I >>> would prefer approach #2 for the sake of simplicity and >>> maintainability. The sooner that we start storing eclasses.tbz2 for >>> each installed package,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:02:19 + Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a problem however with this approach, you can't fix bug where > the (original ebuild) exit code is "success" but the behaviour is > "damn bugged". You can, but perhaps not in a nice, automatic, or particularl

[gentoo-dev] New GDP developer: Dimitry Bradt

2006-11-04 Thread Petteri Räty
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Dimitry "diox" Brad. He is joining us to translate our documentation into Dutch. Let's see if he is able to bring us more Dutch users by improving our documentation. He is also looking into taking the ebuild quiz later on and getting his hands dirty on the ebuil

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Hans de Graaff

2006-11-04 Thread Christian Heim
Its my pleasure to introduce to you Hans de Graaff (also known as graaff), our latest addition helping with emacs/xemacs. Hans is hailing from Delft, Netherlands (and another one joins our dutch conspiracy), where he's currently working for a company called 'Winkwaves' (which he partly owns),

[gentoo-dev] New doc developer: Naoaki Shindo

2006-11-04 Thread Christian Heim
Its my pleasure to introduce to you Naoaki Shindo (also known as shindo), our latest addition helping with the Japanese translations. Naoaki hails from Sapporo, Japan (that's where they eat Sushi, *yummy*), where he lives with his wife. He's currently working for a bank, particularly the bank'

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Hans de Graaff

2006-11-04 Thread Olivier Crête
On Sat, 2006-04-11 at 16:36 +0100, Christian Heim wrote: > Its my pleasure to introduce to you Hans de Graaff (also known as > graaff), our latest addition helping with emacs/xemacs. Go Emacs! Go Emacs! -- Olivier Crête [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developer signature.asc Description: This is a d

[gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals

2006-11-04 Thread Christian Heim
#149420 - net-mail/quotient o Pending Removal Oct 28th 2006 o requested by Marien Zwart on behalf of python #148530 - app-crypt/hashsum o Pending Removal Oct 22th 2006 o requested by Hanno Boeck as primary maintainer #114639 - net-misc/mico o Pending Removal Oct 16th 2006 o requested by Do

[gentoo-dev] treecleaner maskings

2006-11-04 Thread Christian Heim
#152806 - net-wireless/aircrack o requested by Alon Lev-Bar on behalf of crypto (as primary maintainer) o superseeded by net-wireless/aircrack-ng o nothing depends on it o Pending Removal Dec 04th 2006 #101536 - app-misc/largorecipes o requested by Jakub Moc on behalf of treecleaner o nothi

Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals

2006-11-04 Thread Christian Heim
#129874 - www-client/amaya o requested by Stefan Cornelius on behalf of security o p.masked since 30th April 2006 -- Christian Heim GPG key ID: 9A9F68E6 Fingerprint: AEC4 87B8 32B8 4922 B3A9 DF79 CAE3 556F 9A9F 68E6 pgp7vHHCHY8gv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner maskings

2006-11-04 Thread Christian Heim
#72585 - x11-wm/qvwm o requested by Jakub Moc on behalf of treecleaner o nothing depends on it o Pending Removal Dec 04th 2006 #117662 - media-libs/janus o requested by Carsten Lohrke o nothing depends on it o Pending Removal Dec 04th 2006 #125491 - net-analyzer/tcpick o requested by Dani

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

2006-11-04 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 11/3/06, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop. It's a damn shame to see you go. I guess most of today's devs won't know or appreciate just how much you've done for G

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Yuri Vasilevski
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:46:02 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 04 November 2006 06:14, Petteri Räty wrote: > > Zac Medico kirjoitti: > > > What do people think about these two approaches? Personally, I > > > would prefer approach #2 for the sake of simplicity and > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-04 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 11/3/06, Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steve Long wrote: [Fri Nov 03 2006, 02:47:52AM CST] > The main problem I see is USE flags (devs already > compile with standard C-flags right?) but I was thinking about standardising > for 2 or 3 types of network- SOHO, medium and large enterp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 08:47:52AM +, Steve Long wrote: > As to why I don't just do it myself, I think it's a bit silly to duplicate > the > compile that devs do anyway. My compiles as a dev are of very minimal use to anybody except me. There are too many things that are specific to my system

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Francesco Riosa wrote: > could it be the other way around ? Use the saved and if it fail try to > use the current? > > Reason for this is that otherwise you need to maintain in the tree code > to un-merge very old packages, needlessy bloating the curr

Re: [gentoo-dev] New GDP developer: Dimitry Bradt

2006-11-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce to you Dimitry "diox" Brad. He is joining > us to translate our documentation into Dutch. Let's see if he is able to > bring us more Dutch users by improving our documentation. He is also > looking into taking the ebuild quiz later on and getting

Re: [gentoo-dev] New doc developer: Naoaki Shindo

2006-11-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Heim wrote: > Its my pleasure to introduce to you Naoaki Shindo (also known as shindo), our > latest addition helping with the Japanese translations. > > Naoaki hails from Sapporo, Japan (that's where they eat Sushi, *yummy*), > where > he lives with his wife. He's currently working f

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] fixing up portage implicit RDEPEND behavior

2006-11-04 Thread Zac Medico
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 01:33:49AM -0800, Zac Medico wrote: > Hi everyone, > > As many of you probably know already, bug 46223 [1] prevents the > proper uninstallation of a package when one or more of the eclasses > that it inherits are missing from the live portage tree. > > There are essentiall

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: persistence of eclasses for installed packages

2006-11-04 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 04:56:31PM -0800, Zac Medico wrote: > Francesco Riosa wrote: > > could it be the other way around ? Use the saved and if it fail try to > > use the current? > > > > Reason for this is that otherwise you need to maintain in the tree code > > to un-merge very old packages, ne

[gentoo-dev] Removal Request for Gnome 1.4

2006-11-04 Thread Doug Goldstein
Howdy everyone, On the heels of VWA getting the pounding they've needed all season comes this request to you.. It's old and nasty and unused... Let's dump it! Gnome 1.4! If you have any problems please voice them here. But I'd like to see if we've got some support for this. If the Gnome herd

[gentoo-dev] jpeg-mmx is dead

2006-11-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
upstream says it's dead and they dont want people using it ... considering the problems we've seen that sounds just peachy p.masked now -mike pgpH3TBDRNTHu.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal Request for Gnome 1.4

2006-11-04 Thread Nick Devito
I *think* I suggested this a while back to a few developers, but, that didn't get anywhere. I don't see any issues with removing it. ~ nick On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 02:22 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Howdy everyone, > > On the heels of VWA getting the pounding they've needed all season comes > thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] fixing up portage implicit RDEPEND behavior

2006-11-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 04 November 2006 22:45, Zac Medico wrote: > Fortunately, I don't anticipate that this change will cause significant > disruption. My plan is to release a sys-apps/portage-2.1.1-r2 revbump > masked by package.mask and have all of the arch teams keyword it. The > ebuild will have an ewar

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for quite a few desktop-wm packages

2006-11-04 Thread David Shakaryan
Finally, the long-needed cleanup for desktop-wm has come. The following packages have been masked for removal on 05 Dec 2006. See bug #153388, bugs listed in it's description, and the few-day-old thread on -dev for more information. x11-libs/nucleo x11-wm/aewm++ x11-wm/aewm++-goodies x11-wm/golem

Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner maskings

2006-11-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Christian Heim wrote: > #152806 - net-wireless/aircrack > o requested by Alon Lev-Bar on behalf of crypto (as primary maintainer) > o superseeded by net-wireless/aircrack-ng Just so this doesn't end up in a GWN or something ... please spell it "superceded." Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Descr