Re: [gentoo-dev] OT - Finding Linux dev resources

2005-04-28 Thread Stuart Longland
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:20:57 -0600 Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Oh yea, and expect to get LOTS of wise cracks such as this below. | Just ignore those. You might also find people who top post. Ignore them, they don't have anything useful to say. Not to mention those who s

[gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi, I'd like to propose a new global USE flag named 'logrotate' to add support for app-admin/logrotate (by installing logrotate config files to /etc/logrotate.d/). There are currently one local USE flag named logrotate in net-proxy/squid, which of course isn't enough to justify having a global US

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 10:30:03AM +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > I'd like to propose a new global USE flag named 'logrotate' to add > support for app-admin/logrotate (by installing logrotate config files > to /etc/logrotate.d/). +1 here. Probably best to do it via an eclass since lots of pac

[gentoo-dev] GLX no longer works after downgrade from xorg-x11-6.8.99.3

2005-04-28 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
For testing purposes (see #89767) I upgraded today from x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1 media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3 media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.6111-r1 to x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.99.3 media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7174 media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.7174-r3 After downgrading

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 01:51 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > +1 here. Probably best to do it via an eclass since lots of packages > will be using it. It's as simple as: if use logrotate; then insinto /etc/logrotate.d newins ${FILESDIR}/${P}-logrotate ${PN}

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 12:34:50PM +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 01:51 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > +1 here. Probably best to do it via an eclass since lots of packages > > will be using it. > It's as simple as: > > if use logrotate; then > in

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 03:44 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >I meant an eclass to take care of all of it together. Ah, ok - sounds good to me. Perhaps we can stick into eutils.eclass? > (rough prototype here) > IUSE="$IUSE logrotate" > RDEPEND="$RDEPEND logrotate? ( app-admin/logrotate )" > > d

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:44:44 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I meant an eclass to take care of all of it together. I had started writing one too some time ago, but i've actually never applied it to any ebuild and then forgot about it. Anyway, here it is, with some freshly ad

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:34:50 +0200 Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Do we really need an eclass for that? Take a look at bash-completion.eclass. I'm strongly in favour of offloading that kind of thing into eclasses as far as possible, if nothing else because it'll let us move logr

Re: [gentoo-dev] How well supported is collision-protect?

2005-04-28 Thread Michael Cummings
Have to pipe up on this as I get at least a half dozen bugs a week... On Wednesday 27 April 2005 08:29 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > On a note, similar to the one about /usr/X11R6, I'd like to ask about > collision-protect. > > - How well is it expected to work? > Oh, it works, believe me, it works

Re: [gentoo-dev] kernel-mod.eclass deprecation and effected ebuilds

2005-04-28 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 15:51 +0100, John Mylchreest wrote: > For some time now kernel-mod has been deprecated in favour of linux-mod > (or linux-info in some cases). On a side note: the pcmcia.eclass is also deprecated in favor of linux-mod.eclass, please see net-wireless/hostap-driver-0.4.0 for an

Re: [gentoo-dev] How well supported is collision-protect?

2005-04-28 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 28/04/2005-08:10:49(-0400): Michael Cummings types > Have to pipe up on this as I get at least a half dozen bugs a week... > > On Wednesday 27 April 2005 08:29 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > > On a note, similar to the one about /usr/X11R6, I'd like to ask about > > collision-protect. > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 28/04/2005-13:05:10(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types > On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:34:50 +0200 Henrik Brix Andersen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Do we really need an eclass for that? > > Take a look at bash-completion.eclass. I'm strongly in favour of > offloading that kind of thing into ecla

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Cory Visi
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 10:30:03AM +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to propose a new global USE flag named 'logrotate' to add > support for app-admin/logrotate (by installing logrotate config files > to /etc/logrotate.d/). > > There are currently one local USE flag named logr

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Lance Albertson
Cory Visi wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 10:30:03AM +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I'd like to propose a new global USE flag named 'logrotate' to add >>support for app-admin/logrotate (by installing logrotate config files >>to /etc/logrotate.d/). >> >>There are currently one loc

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:41:22 + Cory Visi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Why do we even need a USE flag for this? The logrotate config files | are max, 4k. Just include the config file with your ebuild, which is | what I have done up until now. A user can either run logrotate or | not. This isn

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 28 April 2005 07:01 am, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 03:44 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > (rough prototype here) > > IUSE="$IUSE logrotate" > > RDEPEND="$RDEPEND logrotate? ( app-admin/logrotate )" > > > > dologrotated() { > > use logrotate && insinto /etc

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:00:23 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > would it be possible to easily script a 'make_logrotated' func > where you pass it a few params and it'd create a file for you > based off a common template ? There is one in the eclass i've previously sent (attachment

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 13:41 +, Cory Visi wrote: > Why do we even need a USE flag for this? The logrotate config files are > max, 4k. Just include the config file with your ebuild, which is what I > have done up until now. A user can either run logrotate or not. This > isn't about turning on

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:23:09 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe for embedded or livecd? Maybe for people that don't use > logrotate? > I would add a more general reason which is that this kind of "something.d" config files are much more invasive than others, and thus shou

[gentoo-dev] Portage ebuild cruft

2005-04-28 Thread Heinrich Wendel
Hi, Portage is slow? How to make it faster? By removing unused ebuilds! I wrote a little script to check which ebuilds in portage aren't used anylonger, here the result: Total packages checked: 9076 Total ebuilds checked: 18662 Total ebuilds to remove: 4643 Of course the script can't detect ev

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to propose a new global USE flag named 'logrotate' to add > support for app-admin/logrotate (by installing logrotate config files > to /etc/logrotate.d/). > > There are currently one local USE flag named

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLX no longer works after downgrade from xorg-x11-6.8.99.3

2005-04-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > For testing purposes (see #89767) I upgraded today from > >x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1 >media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3 >media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.6111-r1 > > to > >x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.99.3 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:48:52 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | How annoying is it for someone to remerge a package just to get a | logrotate file? I suggest that if you're going to install it at all, | do it unconditionally. What, and get another file in /etc that needs manual tid

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:48:52 -0700 Donnie Berkholz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | How annoying is it for someone to remerge a package just to get a > | logrotate file? I suggest that if you're going to install it at all, > |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage ebuild cruft

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 06:40:23PM +0200, Heinrich Wendel wrote: > Hi, > > Portage is slow? How to make it faster? By removing unused ebuilds! Define "faster". All this would do is cut down on a couple of stats per pkg; the # of ebuilds per pkg isn't a huge issue, the scanning of vdb and Config

[gentoo-dev] Python stuff and CHOST Change don't agree

2005-04-28 Thread Wolfgang Illmeyer
Hi, A few months ago I changed my CHOST in make.conf from i386-pc-linux-gnu to i686-pc-linux-gnu. Everything went ok until I had to install some python package; the old chost was hardcoded somewhere in /usr/lib/python2.3 or similar and therefore it still wanted to use the i386-toolchain when build

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python stuff and CHOST Change don't agree

2005-04-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:32:44 +0200 Wolfgang Illmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | A few months ago I changed my CHOST in make.conf from | i386-pc-linux-gnu to i686-pc-linux-gnu. Don't do that. You need to rebuild your entire system if you're changing CHOST, so only do it before bootstrapping a fre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python stuff and CHOST Change don't agree

2005-04-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 28 April 2005 05:32 pm, Wolfgang Illmeyer wrote: > Today i wanted to emerge solfege with gnome useflag and it stopped at > dev-python/pyorbit due to a missing "i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc" > what can i do? grep your system and see what's still refering to i386 ? -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Grant Goodyear
Donnie Berkholz wrote: [Thu Apr 28 2005, 03:21:50PM CDT] > Yes. Or don't install it at all, and let people create their own. This > is a dumb USE flag. I'd say that "dumb USE flag" is rather harsh. It seems clear that (a) many users would like a logrotate script installed for them, and since it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python stuff and CHOST Change don't agree

2005-04-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 11:32:44PM +0200, Wolfgang Illmeyer wrote: > Hi, [snip] > what can i do? /sbin/fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch i386-pc-linux-gnu If that doesn't fix it, you get to keep the pieces. Changing the CHOST on a live system is not to be taken lightly. It's somew

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage ebuild cruft

2005-04-28 Thread Tom Wesley
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 18:40 +0200, Heinrich Wendel wrote: > Hi, > > Portage is slow? How to make it faster? By removing unused ebuilds! > > I wrote a little script to check which ebuilds in portage aren't used > anylonger, here the result: > > Total packages checked: 9076 > Total ebuilds checke

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant Goodyear wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: [Thu Apr 28 2005, 03:21:50PM CDT] > >>Yes. Or don't install it at all, and let people create their own. This >>is a dumb USE flag. > > > I'd say that "dumb USE flag" is rather harsh. It seems clear tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Tom Wesley
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 10:30 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to propose a new global USE flag named 'logrotate' to add > support for app-admin/logrotate (by installing logrotate config files > to /etc/logrotate.d/). > > There are currently one local USE flag named logrotate i

[gentoo-dev] Re: How well supported is collision-protect?

2005-04-28 Thread R Hill
Rumen Yotov wrote: Can confirm that (much less collisons with 2005.0), but as there exist some persistant collisions (nvidia-kernel, alsa-driver, some perl modules, etc.) So i've put these in package.features/package.env file (from Portage-Toys tools) to disable "collision-protect" just for them. A

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Spider
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 10:30 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to propose a new global USE flag named 'logrotate' to add > support for app-admin/logrotate (by installing logrotate config files > to /etc/logrotate.d/). > > There are currently one local USE flag named logrotate i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage ebuild cruft

2005-04-28 Thread Athul Acharya
> Purging old versions for a few seconds speed increase in portage [snip] Few seconds? Try few miliseconds, if anything, at all, ever. The original email in this thread gave me the best laugh I've had in a while, until I realized it came from a dev; then I was very sad. Athul -- gentoo-dev@gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 29 April 2005 07:28, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > My problem with it is that Joe User, who doesn't do ebuilds, will change > his USE flags and recompile an entire package just to get a little > logrotate file that has nothing to do with the source of the package > itself. This waste of time i

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Stubbs wrote: > What about the unused `ebuild [ebuild] config`? Isn't that the perfect place > for this sort of stuff? The only package that I know that uses this feature > is mysql. There are way more possibilities. Interesting idea. > Iggy'