Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > Certainly. But it is likely much more interesting work and has > considerably more impact. The mentoring period and the review have considerable impact too. Whether you think one is more important than the other depends on you thinking short

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/15/2012 11:11 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > (Please consider quoting only what is relevant. Thanks!) > > Markos Chandras wrote: >> In my opinion, the quizzes contain all the knowledge that is >> required for someone to start developing for Gentoo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > less idiotic > idiots such as perhaps myself need years because we're doing > whatever work as opposed to learning foundation bylaws by heart. Well, I don't think the bylaws are a terribly important topic for the quizzes, and unless somethin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 21:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:45:25 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: >> It's not that it takes all that much time. It can be done in say one >> or two workdays. But you need to set aside a block of time (and >> usually two, one for each of the quizzes, or more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Stuge
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > you need to set aside a block of time (and usually two > > ...and you don't need to be able to put in that level of attention > every now and again when you're a developer? Not the same amount of meta time, no. I agree with the estimate of about two days for the quizze

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:45:25 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > It's not that it takes all that much time. It can be done in say one > or two workdays. But you need to set aside a block of time (and > usually two, one for each of the quizzes, or more if you need to > break it up or iterate over it after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 21:27, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: >> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 >> Ben de Groot wrote: >>> The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having >>> been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: >> The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having >> been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as Gentoo >> dev, and the second time I did the quizzes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > I've been managing my own overlay and a few private ones for a few > years now, all while using catalyst to build more or less customized > Linux systems for me and for others. > > I dive into bugzilla when a bug bites, and I'll usually generat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having > been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as Gentoo > dev, and the second time I did the quizzes it took me 3 months. > I've seen others take a long time doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Saturday 14 of July 2012 10:32:04 Markos Chandras wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Dear Gentoo Community, > > If you are not a recruit, mentor, or wannabe mentor you may stop > reading now. > > We (recruiters) decided to revert back to the quizzes for the > recru

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Stuge
(Please consider quoting only what is relevant. Thanks!) Markos Chandras wrote: > In my opinion, the quizzes contain all the knowledge that is > required for someone to start developing for Gentoo. Yes, maybe > it requires too much knowledge So which is it? "All that is required" or "too much?"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/15/2012 06:15 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 15 July 2012 04:46, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Markos Chandras wrote: >>> understand that quizzes is not an ideal way to "hire" people >>> either, but they worked ok for all these years >> >> I don't kno

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-14 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 04:46, Peter Stuge wrote: > Markos Chandras wrote: >> understand that quizzes is not an ideal way to "hire" people >> either, but they worked ok for all these years > > I don't know.. Subjectively I don't think they work ok at all, since > I still haven't finished them even after m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Hi, Markos Chandras wrote: > We (recruiters) decided to revert back to the quizzes for the > recruitment process. The web application does not work as we expected. I've been considering recruitment for many years and I made my first effort to prepare for recruitment about two years ago, but I hav