On Thursday 05 May 2005 03:28, Michiel de Bruijne wrote:
> On Thursday 05 May 2005 01:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > For us to support LSB:
> >
> > * We'd have to use RPM instead of portage
>
> That's not correct, quote from LSB:
> "The distribution itself may use a different packaging format for i
On Thu, 5 May 2005 03:28:06 +0200 Michiel de Bruijne
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| On Thursday 05 May 2005 01:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > For us to support LSB:
| >
| > * We'd have to use RPM instead of portage
|
| That's not correct, quote from LSB:
| "The distribution itself may use a differen
On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 17:31 -0500, David Krider wrote:
> I like the customizations of Gentoo on my main machine, where I have the
> energy to hold the system's hand through all of the fine tuning. But on
> servers and utlity laptops, I don't care. My point is this: why isn't a
> "bigger GRP" a goal
On Thursday 05 May 2005 01:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> For us to support LSB:
>
> * We'd have to use RPM instead of portage
That's not correct, quote from LSB:
"The distribution itself may use a different packaging format for its own
packages, and of course it may use any available mechanism for
On Wed, 04 May 2005 17:31:44 -0500 David Krider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 17:26 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > On Wed, 4 May 2005 18:17:53 +0200 Michiel de Bruijne
| > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > | Second showstopper is lack of (LSB-)certification;
| > | Like it or no
On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 17:26 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 18:17:53 +0200 Michiel de Bruijne
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Second showstopper is lack of (LSB-)certification;
> | Like it or not, the typical managers in this world say if product x
> | isn't y-certified we wont
I must say that I agree with Ciaran on this particular point. The
current standards that tell you where to put things is lucicrous. A
file system is NO different than a piece of code. The whole thing
should be manageable by standardized VARIABLES not hard coded
standards. Could you imagine how
On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:46:28 -0500 Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Actually, he does have a point. I know a lot of folks gripe that linux
| doesn't have any standard FS layout of where files are etc. If
| something like this could be implemented, it would make those people a
| lot happ
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 18:17:53 +0200 Michiel de Bruijne
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Second showstopper is lack of (LSB-)certification;
> | Like it or not, the typical managers in this world say if product x
> | isn't y-certified we wont use/support it. Gentoo needs a pro
On Wed, 4 May 2005 18:17:53 +0200 Michiel de Bruijne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Second showstopper is lack of (LSB-)certification;
| Like it or not, the typical managers in this world say if product x
| isn't y-certified we wont use/support it. Gentoo needs a profile for
| a LSB-compliant syste
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 11:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i just returned from a meeting with IBM which was about getting
> support for Gentoo Linux (hardware and software). The people from IBM
> told me that it's possible for Gentoo to become officially supported
> on IBM server hardwa
In a sense why i ask, gentoo preloaded would not intrest me.
I would like to see things like IBM supports / recommends gentoo-sources-2.6.x.
or tested with these CFLAGS with this processor.
Or emerge ibm-pixy-dust that would magically 'heal' my server...
I have only been at my job / working
Gentoo pre-loaded? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
Seriously though, I too work with xSeries, as well as IBM desktops, and
I've loaded Debian, Gentoo and half a dozen other distros on them
without incident, as well as pre-Fedora Red Hat and RHEL clones. Left to
my own devices (pun intended)
I'm not a lawyer, even in the USA. Maybe it's different in Germany, but
here in the USA, the relationships between for-profit and not-for-profit
organizations are highly regulated. IBM can (and has) given hardware or
sold hardware at lower prices to educational institutions. IBM has made
major cont
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> Well i also was very surprised to become this offering from IBM. I
> tried this for a long time with very less success :(
>
> All i can say is that i talked to IBM's Senior IT Architct for
> Principal Linux Services and he
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 10:08 am, Omkhar Arasaratnam wrote:
> What do we mean by "support". Please bear in mind IBM DOES NOT support
> Debian in this fashion AFAIK. IBM may assist with development to some
> small extent but if a customer calls in and ask for support - they're
> up a creek.
My int
This sounds great, I run six different types of xseries at work all
with gentoo. Never had any issues besides lm_sensors threatening to
cook my mobos ;)
What exactly would this do for me as a ibm-gentoo user? Is this more
or less I can, if this goes through, buy a ibm with gentoo pre-loaded?
Th
Well i also was very surprised to become this offering from IBM. I tried this for a long time with very less success :(
All i can say is that i talked to IBM's Senior IT Architct for Principal Linux Services and he told me that theres a chance to do this. Of cause he didn't said something about a
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M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> I was just going to say something similar, although I'm not an
> employee of IBM. Gentoo's parent organization is non-profit, and
> IBM is a for-profit international corporation. That means, at least
> in the USA, that
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 09:47 am, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
> IBM has already been kind enough to donate some hardware to us. It has
> yet to arrive at our hosting facility at OSU but I imagine that is only
> a matter of time. Once the hardware is in place the ppc64 team (which is
> mostly made up of I
I was just going to say something similar, although I'm not an employee
of IBM. Gentoo's parent organization is non-profit, and IBM is a
for-profit international corporation. That means, at least in the USA,
that any such agreement would need to be negotiated and approved by what
Stan Freberg refer
IBM has already been kind enough to donate some hardware to us. It has
yet to arrive at our hosting facility at OSU but I imagine that is only
a matter of time. Once the hardware is in place the ppc64 team (which is
mostly made up of IBM employees btw) will look into this further.
Thanks for the h
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> First of all there are a lot of questions to answer:
>
> - Who can do the certification?
> - What must be done to become certified?
> - What hardwaretypes will IBM offer?
> - Will the hardware stay at IBM or somewhere else?
First of all there are a lot of questions to answer:
- Who can do the certification?
- What must be done to become certified?
- What hardwaretypes will IBM offer?
- Will the hardware stay at IBM or somewhere else?
Aside all IBM customers should request support for Gentoo from IBM because they'll
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 06:15:28AM -0400, Michael Cummings wrote:
> Let me just diplomatically: cool :)
Agreed ! :P
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Let me just diplomatically: cool :)
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 05:03 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i just returned from a meeting with IBM which was about getting
> support for Gentoo Linux (hardware and software). The people from IBM
> told me that it's possible for Gentoo to become off
really interesting :)
how can i help?
El mié, 04-05-2005 a las 11:17 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> This means it would be officially supported to run Gentoo on IBM
> Hardware. This would give Gentoo a status like SUSE, Redhat or
> Debian.
> This could be the first step to become a support
This means it would be officially supported to run Gentoo on IBM Hardware. This would give Gentoo a status like SUSE, Redhat or Debian.
This could be the first step to become a supported plattform for IBM software products.
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 04/05/2005 11:09:39 AM:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i just returned from a meeting with IBM which was about getting support
> for Gentoo Linux (hardware and software). The people from IBM told me
> that it's possible for Gentoo to become officially supported on IBM
> server ha
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