Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 July 2007, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2007-07-15 21:22:07 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > On Sunday 15 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > > > the day you switch from IUSE="nocxx" to IUSE="+cxx", will you > > > remember that, as a consequence, you have to f

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2007-07-15 21:22:07 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > On Sunday 15 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > > the day you switch from IUSE="nocxx" to IUSE="+cxx", will you > > remember that, as a consequence, you have to fix hardened/2.6/minimal > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > My point is just that it doesn't work that well with the USE_ORDER that > have been chosen. Even keeping the "-* in make.conf" case appart > (obviously my opinion on how it should behave was not widely shared, i > can live with that), the

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/15, Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:53:08 +0200 > Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My point is just that it doesn't work that well with the USE_ORDER > > that have been chosen. Even keeping the "-* in make.conf" case > > appa

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:53:08 +0200 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > for some flags yes ... for others, i dislike that idea for the exact > > same reason for the other profile-based suggestions: these defaults >

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for some flags yes ... for others, i dislike that idea for the exact > same reason for the other profile-based suggestions: these defaults > should live in the ebuild, not the profile I agree that putting per-package defaults in ebuilds i

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the no* flags were introduced more to address default behavior than > > the -* case, so yes we can kick many of the no* USE flags > > To address only the default behavior, addi

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the no* flags were introduced more to address default behavior than > the -* case, so yes we can kick many of the no* USE flags > To address only the default behavior, adding "foo" to the profile USE instead of using a "nofoo" flag wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On 2007/07/10, Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - we could finally kick all the no* USE flags. USE flags are use > > flags - they determine what should be used. not what should not be > > used... > > Because of the way USE fl

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/10, Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - we could finally kick all the no* USE flags. USE flags are use > flags - they determine what should be used. not what should not be > used... Because of the way USE flags stack in Portage (the USE_ORDER variable), IUSE defaults are not a

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature > > > on the grounds that it's unnecessary and increased maintenance

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: > Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > > On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>> As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on > >>> the grounds that it's un

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on >>> the grounds that it's unnecessary and increased maintenance. Do they >>> really

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on > > the grounds that it's unnecessary and increased maintenance. Do they > > really offer any benefit over packa

[gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-09 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on > the grounds that it's unnecessary and increased maintenance. Do they > really offer any benefit over package.use?