Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> Ühel kenal päeval, K, 01.06.2016 kell 20:24, kirjutas Martin Vaeth:
>> Gentoo has chosen this name so that as a side effect of setting
>> USE=linguas_* you also get a correct LINGUAS variable exported
>> (according to the USE-settings and your settings and according
>> to th
Ühel kenal päeval, K, 01.06.2016 kell 20:24, kirjutas Martin Vaeth:
> Gentoo has chosen this name so that as a side effect of setting
> USE=linguas_* you also get a correct LINGUAS variable exported
> (according to the USE-settings and your settings and according
> to the ebuild's IUSE.)
> These ar
Kent Fredric wrote:
> On 2 June 2016 at 07:33, Martin Vaeth wrote:
>>
>> I prefer to have at least 5% of the ebuilds working and the other
>> being fixable (if their maintainers want to spend the effort)
>> than to remove a concept which breaks also these 5% and turns
>> all ebuilds non-fixable,
Raymond Jennings wrote:
>
> I'd honestly as a minor issue like ot know why we called it linguas in the
> first place.
> [...]
> I think though I should also point out...don't we already have existing
> ebuilds that expose LINGUAS options in their USE flags?
>From this posting, it is obvious that
On 2 June 2016 at 07:33, Martin Vaeth wrote:
>
> I prefer to have at least 5% of the ebuilds working and the other
> being fixable (if their maintainers want to spend the effort)
> than to remove a concept which breaks also these 5% and turns
> all ebuilds non-fixable, in principle.
Changing the
Michał Górny wrote:
>
> If more than 95% of ebuilds are broken, this proves that a concept is
> broken.
>
> Well, feel free to live in your fairy land.
I prefer to have at least 5% of the ebuilds working and the other
being fixable (if their maintainers want to spend the effort)
than to remove a
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:18:53 + (UTC)
Martin Vaeth wrote:
> Michał Górny wrote:
> >
> > Do you have any numbers on how many ebuilds were exactly being fixed?
> > And how many were broken in the process because someone failed to
> > update linguas_*?
>
> Broken ebuilds are a reason to fix th
Michał Górny wrote:
>
> Do you have any numbers on how many ebuilds were exactly being fixed?
> And how many were broken in the process because someone failed to
> update linguas_*?
Broken ebuilds are a reason to fix the ebuilds, but not a reason
to replace a working concept by a hack which only
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:27:16 + (UTC)
Martin Vaeth wrote:
> Michał Górny wrote:
> >>
> >>Therefore, I suggest to put this line in l10n.eclass
> >>(perhaps with a mechanism to avoid it for some exceptional packages
> >>which have to treat LINGUAS differently.)
> >>This way, none of these ebuild
Michał Górny wrote:
>>
>>Therefore, I suggest to put this line in l10n.eclass
>>(perhaps with a mechanism to avoid it for some exceptional packages
>>which have to treat LINGUAS differently.)
>>This way, none of these ebuilds inheriting l10n needs to be patched.
>
> This eclass should be killed wi
I'd honestly as a minor issue like ot know why we called it linguas in the
first place. Linguas itself is latin/romance based in name, so gentoo at
least has been showing a bit of a bias.
Personally I think its a bad name on neutrality grounds alone.
I think though I should also point out...don'
Dnia 1 czerwca 2016 16:03:40 CEST, Mart Raudsepp napisał(a):
>Ühel kenal päeval, K, 01.06.2016 kell 15:19, kirjutas Michał Górny:
>> As for LINGUAS, it should be left as a toy for advanced users and not
>> presented as a recommended solution.
>
>There is nothing advanced in it for the user, only t
Ühel kenal päeval, K, 01.06.2016 kell 15:19, kirjutas Michał Górny:
> As for LINGUAS, it should be left as a toy for advanced users and not
> presented as a recommended solution.
There is nothing advanced in it for the user, only the mess we have
created with package manager behaviour and mis-use
Dnia 1 czerwca 2016 11:23:09 CEST, Martin Vaeth napisał(a):
>Michał Górny wrote:
>>
>> 1. Get approval on INSTALL_MASK GLEP [1] and finish implementing it
>> in Portage.
>
>As already mentioned by some, INSTALL_MASK is something else than
>LINGUAS, because LINGUAS involves also files which are ge
Dnia 31 maja 2016 23:34:07 CEST, "Jörg Schaible"
napisał(a):
>How can I select different linguas for individual packages with this
>approach?
Using the currently available mechanisms you could use package.env to alter
INSTALL_MASK, e.g.:
/etc/portage/env/german:
INSTALL_MASK="@l10n -@l10n-d
Michał Górny wrote:
>
> 1. Get approval on INSTALL_MASK GLEP [1] and finish implementing it
> in Portage.
As already mentioned by some, INSTALL_MASK is something else than
LINGUAS, because LINGUAS involves also files which are generated
by the build system. Although I appreciate a more configurab
Daniel Campbell posted on Tue, 31 May 2016 10:31:22 -0700 as excerpted:
> I think this idea has some potential, but would there be a way for a
> user to choose L10N *or* INSTALL_MASK instead of both? If I understand
> correctly, a person who wanted all of their system to be en_US only, but
> wante
Andrew Savchenko posted on Tue, 31 May 2016 20:08:10 +0300 as excerpted:
> If we are going to do an instant move from LINGUAS to L10N (no graced
> period as discussed here on another thread), why to rename variable in
> the first place?
Because the LINGUAS var is hopelessly tangled up in various
2016-06-01 0:03 GMT+02:00 Mike Gilbert :
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Jörg Schaible
> wrote:
> > How can I select different linguas for individual packages with this
> > approach?
>
> Why would you want to?
>
> In addition to Jörg Schaible answer:
I do use my kde sessions with en_US langua
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
> How can I select different linguas for individual packages with this
> approach?
Why would you want to?
How can I select different linguas for individual packages with this
approach?
Michał Górny wrote:
> Hello, everyone.
>
> Since the previous thread doesn't seem to have brought any good
> solution to the problem other than stopping to (ab)use LINGUAS
> as USE_EXPAND, I would like to start a RFC
On Tue, 31 May 2016 23:34:07 +0200
Jörg Schaible wrote:
> How can I select different linguas for individual packages with this
> approach?
You could probably set INSTALL_MASK and L10N
via /etc/portage/package.env.
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