Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 13 October 2011 14:15:54 Sebastian Luther wrote: >> WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency >> conflict: >> >> dev-python/numpy:0 >>   (dev-python/numpy-1.6.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) confl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Sebastian Luther
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:01:00 -0400 > Von: Mike Frysinger > An: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org > Betreff: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in > net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild > On Thursday 13 Octo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 14:15:54 Sebastian Luther wrote: > WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency > conflict: > > dev-python/numpy:0 > (dev-python/numpy-1.6.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts > with ~dev-python/numpy-1.5.1 required by > (sci-mathemat

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:30:56 +0400 Peter Volkov wrote: > 2. better find: > find /usr -name "*.la" -o -name "*.pc" -o -name "*-config" -exec grep > -H png14 {} \; find /usr -name "*.la" -o -name "*.pc" -o -name "*-config" \ -exec grep -H png14 {} + This is going to take less grep calls,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libtool.eclass documentation

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 30 September 2011 11:27:18 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno ven, 30/09/2011 alle 11.06 -0400, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: > > and azarah ;) > > Right, by the way have you (or anyone else) got any news of him? > > > want to do a brain dump into the @DESCRIPTION part of libtool.eclass

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-admin/chrpath: ChangeLog chrpath-0.13-r2.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Steven J Long
Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 10/12/2011 06:30 AM, Steven J Long wrote: >> Michał Górny wrote: >>> I don't think that passing multiple files to epatch actually improves >>> readability. Simple example: >>> >>> # bug #123456, foo, bar >>> epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${P}-foo.patch >>> # bug #234567, baz baz

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:01:50 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > Title: Upgrade to libpng15 > Author: Samuli Suominen > Content-Type: text/plain > Posted: 2011-10-14 > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > Display-If-Installed: > After upgrading from libpng14 to libpng15 it's important that you reb

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:01:50 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > Title: Upgrade to libpng15 > Author: Samuli Suominen > Content-Type: text/plain > Posted: 2011-10-14 > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > Display-If-Installed: > After upgrading from libpng14 to libpng15 it's important that you reb

Re: [gentoo-dev] new helper: econf_build

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 21:41:02 Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > i've found myself a few times having to implement logic like so: > >CFLAGS=${BUILD_CFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \ > >CXXFLAGS=${BUILD_CXXFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \ > >CPPFLAGS

Re: [gentoo-dev] new helper: econf_build

2011-10-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > i've found myself a few times having to implement logic like so: >        CFLAGS=${BUILD_CFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \ >        CXXFLAGS=${BUILD_CXXFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \ >        CPPFLAGS=${BUILD_CPPFLAGS} \ >        LDFLAGS=${BUILD_LDFLAGS} \ >      

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 14/10/2011 в 01:01 +0300, Samuli Suominen пишет: > small news item for stable users. lets keep it simple... I think it's better to put all knowledge from forum post inside: 1. --keep-going option for revdep-rebuild. 2. better find: find /usr -name "*.la" -o -name "*.pc" -o -name "*-config"

[gentoo-dev] new helper: econf_build

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
i've found myself a few times having to implement logic like so: CFLAGS=${BUILD_CFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \ CXXFLAGS=${BUILD_CXXFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \ CPPFLAGS=${BUILD_CPPFLAGS} \ LDFLAGS=${BUILD_LDFLAGS} \ CC=$(tc-getBUILD_CC) \ LD=$(tc-getBUILD_LD) \

[gentoo-dev] rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
small news item for stable users. lets keep it simple... Title: Upgrade to libpng15 Author: Samuli Suominen Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2011-10-14 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-894950.html

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-13 Thread Zac Medico
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Mike Frysinger posted on Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:39:52 -0400 as excerpted: > >> i thought there was talk of an automatic @security set at some point, >> but not sure if that got anywhere. Marius (genone) added @security support

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Samuli Suominen schrieb: >> This is something that I have been asking for all the time. If you think >> that what qutecom did should be illegal in Gentoo, then disallow it in >> policy or code. > > Drop that "should be" act, please. It looks as if you were still > suggesting it was fine to do wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 10/12/2011 08:20 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 12 October 2011 11:09:56 Zac Medico wrote: >> How about if we add a `emerge --upgrade` target that is analogous to >> `apt-get upgrade`? > > isn't that already done with @installed ? `emerge --upgrade @installed` At this time, @install

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 14:55:45 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: > >> While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly > >> haven't been seen any effort to actu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: >>> While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly >>> haven't been seen any effort to actually

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: >> While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly >> haven't been seen any effort to actually solve the problem within the >> existing framework. For example, i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/13/2011 08:02 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: >> While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly >> haven't been seen any effort to actually solve the problem within the >> existing framework. For example, if someone c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Sebastian Luther
Am 13.10.2011 15:13, schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:23:07 +0200 > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> So qutecom is not broken and needs not be removed as long as >> > Dependencies using <, <=, =, ~ or =* are broken, except in certain > special situations inside ||. > Why

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:52:37 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > While slotting libraries is often an option, that gets a lot messier > when you're talking about things like header files. You can make slots mutually blocking if you do it carefully. It does get a bit horrible without := dependencies thoug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Merely saying if we had some documentation snippet, or an end-quiz > question for this, QA could more easily/faster revoke access if someone > were to do this intentionally in tree. This could be minor motivation > for me to write such snip

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/13/2011 06:09 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Samuli Suominen schrieb: >> you're right. sorry. that came out too harsh. lets rephrase this as: > > No offense taken :) > >> "This /topic should be in the end-quiz, and mentioned in the mentoring >> guide to cover basis as part of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:14:31 -0400 Olivier Crête wrote: > On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 18:49 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:00:23 +0530 > > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > > Then please continue with udev in package.mask and kindly stop > > > trying to impose your workflow on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: > While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly > haven't been seen any effort to actually solve the problem within the > existing framework. For example, if someone cares enough, why not > write a wrapper script to tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 13 October 2011 20:58, Rich Freeman wrote: > 2011/10/13 Olivier Crête : >> We're imposing our deep integration because it's the only way to make a >> compelling platform that "just works", forcing users to tell the >> computer something the computer already knows is just plain lazy and >> stupi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 11:17:07 Olivier Crête wrote: > That said, we, the GNOME upstream, think that having a separate /usr is > a completely stupid idea. considering GNOME's track record wrt what they think is a "good idea" in the UI land, i'm not sure this statement is terribly compelling

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Rich Freeman
2011/10/13 Olivier Crête : > We're imposing our deep integration because it's the only way to make a > compelling platform that "just works", forcing users to tell the > computer something the computer already knows is just plain lazy and > stupid. I'd also look at it another way. It is a lot eas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > So, in your opinion, if we have 'foo' and 'libfoo' which are strictly > version-bound, we can't allow users to install older versions? Obviously the real issue is when libfoo is libpng or openssl or whatever. It almost makes you wonder if t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:13:11 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:23:07 +0200 > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > > So qutecom is not broken and needs not be removed as long as > > > Dependencies using <, <=, =, ~ or =* are broken, except in certain > special situations in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Olivier Crête
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 00:40 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > Hi all > > Recently, there was a firestorm on the gentoo-user list over the idea > that udev would eventually require /usr to be on the same physical > parition as /, or else use initramfs, which is its own can of worms. I'm > not a program

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Olivier Crête
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 18:49 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:00:23 +0530 > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > Then please continue with udev in package.mask and kindly stop trying > > to impose your workflow on the rest of the world. > > Isn't the point here that the desktop / GNOM

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: Most of the net-zope category and related packages

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
Per previous discussion, Arfrever will be maintaining these packages outside of the main tree. This entry was committed just under a month ago, but it seems the announcement was not sent at that time. # Mike Gilbert (15 Sep 2011) # Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis (15 Sep 2011) # Zope Toolk

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Samuli Suominen schrieb: > you're right. sorry. that came out too harsh. lets rephrase this as: No offense taken :) > "This /topic should be in the end-quiz, and mentioned in the mentoring > guide to cover basis as part of the KEYWORDS visibility handling." This is something that I have been ask

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:23:07 +0200 > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> So qutecom is not broken and needs not be removed as long as >> Dependencies using <, <=, =, ~ or =* are broken, except in certain > special situations inside ||. I don't find that documented a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 09:09 Wed 12 Oct 2011, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Goodbye desktop users then. > > > > We recently dropped HAL. Now all the magic that was done by HAL (and > > required udev anyway) is done through udev directly. > > My system worked just fine before HAL was introduced, thank you. I > always had

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:23:07 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > So qutecom is not broken and needs not be removed as long as > signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Mike Frysinger schrieb: >>> by splitting my reply, you changed the meaning. having qutecom in the >>> tree with a depend on versions that i'm now removing breaks the >>> depgraph. >> The depgraph is broken after the old versions are removed, not before. > which is what i said So qutecom is not br

[gentoo-dev] bugs-web[34].gentoo.org launched

2011-10-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi all, Webnodes #3 and #4 have been launched for Bugzilla. They'll ultimately replace nodes #1 and #2, but meanwhile all 4 nodes are running. The new DB nodes aren't 100% ready yet. If you to specifically reach a node instead of the load balancer: https://bugs-web{1,2,3,4}.gentoo.org/ (and acce

[gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-13 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted on Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:39:52 -0400 as excerpted: > i thought there was talk of an automatic @security set at some point, > but not sure if that got anywhere. Sets (other than @system and @world) aren't available in stable portage yet. Are they even in ~arch? I've been run