Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Graham Murray
Thomas Sachau writes: > Since python-3* is currently useless and not required for any package, the > dependency should by > default only pull in python-2* like this: > > =dev-lang/python-2* > > With that, the default way would not pull in a package, which is not needed > or used. And if there >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council 201006 elections

2010-06-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 07:46:40 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > On 02-06-2010 08:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 04:11:26 Torsten Veller wrote: > >> * Mike Frysinger : > >>> On Monday, May 31, 2010 22:46:50 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Here are the det

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] toolchain-funcs.eclass: functions to call compiler

2010-06-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, June 05, 2010 09:16:29 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:56:38 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 09:17:00 Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 03:16:12 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > use emake then and leverage make's implicit rules. > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: changing the developer profile: FEATURES="test" -> FEATURES="test-fail-continue"

2010-06-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:11:45 +0200 "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > What do you think about doing the following change in > /usr/portage/profiles/targets/developer/make.defaults: > > replace "test" with "test-fail-continue" to make it just less > frustrating (we still have a lot of test failures) >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 02:00:02 +0200 Torsten Veller wrote: > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). I'd like to nominate betelgeuse, calchan, and ssuominen (no way you're getting out of here that easy). -- fonts,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Thomas, On 06/06/10 04:01, Thomas Sachau wrote: > [..] so even if it is not pulled in during installation, it will be pulled in > during world update. sounds right. Preventing this requires either masking or a dont-pull-uninstalled-slots switch for portage (which I am not suggesting), right?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 06.06.2010 01:38, schrieb Harald van Dijk: > On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:03:48AM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Am 05.06.2010 20:31, schrieb Harald van Dijk: >>> On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:49:08PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: If any package does inherit python or distutils eclass, then those >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Fabian Groffen wrote: > I nominate ulm. Thank you for nominating me, but as an election official I can't accept. Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Thomas, On 06/06/10 01:04, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Every slot and every version *should* satisfy a "dev-lang/python" dependency, > but currently such > unspecified version dependency does automaticly pull in the latest > version/slot, which in case of > python does mean python-3*, even when you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:03:48AM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Am 05.06.2010 20:31, schrieb Harald van Dijk: > > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:49:08PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> If any package does inherit python or distutils eclass, then those > >> eclasses do pull in > >> "dev-lang/python",

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:04:24PM +0300, Dror Levin wrote: >On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 03:00, Torsten Veller <[1]t...@gentoo.org> >wrote: > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the > next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). > All nominatio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 05.06.2010 20:31, schrieb Harald van Dijk: > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:49:08PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> If any package does inherit python or distutils eclass, then those eclasses >> do pull in >> "dev-lang/python", which is unversioned, so it will always pull in the >> latest version, i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon
On Thu, 2010-06-05 at 16:36 +0200, Alex Legler wrote: > Chainsaw, Fauli and sping please. Thank you Alex. I accept. Regards, Tony V. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 06/05/10 16:36, Alex Legler wrote: > Chainsaw, Fauli and sping please. Thanks. I accept nomination. Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Thomas, Arfrever, the way this discussion currently works does not look fruitful to me. Questions I would like to raise: - How come you don't agree on facts? - Is this about processes or results? - Have you tried to understand the other side's problem? - Could you try a question-explanati

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:04:24PM +0300, Dror Levin wrote: > I'll nominate robbat2, darkside and ferringb. I must respectfully decline, as it is mutually exclusive with my remaining time as a trustee. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee & Infrastructure Lead E-Mail : robb.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 05-06-2010 02:00:02 +0200, Torsten Veller wrote: > All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list. If you > were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on > the same mailing list. I nominate ulm. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:49:08PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: > If any package does inherit python or distutils eclass, then those eclasses > do pull in > "dev-lang/python", which is unversioned, so it will always pull in the latest > version, in this case > python-3*. You could change this, so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05-06-2010 13:19, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On Saturday 05 of June 2010 02:00:02 Torsten Veller wrote: >> Hello fellow developers and users. >> >> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next >> two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 1

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/05/2010 09:19 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On Saturday 05 of June 2010 02:00:02 Torsten Veller wrote: >> Hello fellow developers and users. >> >> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next >> two weeks (until 23:59 U

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 05.06.2010 16:43, schrieb Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis: > 2010-05-27 16:33:39 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): >> Hi together, >> >> since i am not able to get any real argument or even discussion on IRC nor >> on this mailing list from >> Arfrever (main person behind those changes), i would li

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-05-27 16:33:39 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): > Hi together, > > since i am not able to get any real argument or even discussion on IRC nor on > this mailing list from > Arfrever (main person behind those changes), i would like to raise the > following points now on this > mailing list as told o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Alex Legler
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 02:00:02 +0200, Torsten Veller wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). > Chainsaw, Fauli and sping please. -- Alex Legler | Gentoo Security / Ruby a...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Dror Levin
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 03:00, Torsten Veller wrote: > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). > > All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list. If you > were nominated and want to run, you have to accept you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On Saturday 05 of June 2010 02:00:02 Torsten Veller wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). > > All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list. If you > were nomina

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] toolchain-funcs.eclass: functions to call compiler

2010-06-05 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:56:38 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 09:17:00 Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 03:16:12 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > use emake then and leverage make's implicit rules. > > > > The implicit make rules are less universal and -- in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Saturday 05 of June 2010 02:00:02 Torsten Veller wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). > > All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list. If you > were nomi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 02:00, Torsten Veller wrote: > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). I'd like to nominate patrick and vapier. Cheers, Dirkjan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Anders Hellgren
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Torsten Veller wrote: Hello fellow developers and users. Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list. If you were nominated and want to run, you h

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-misc/wmakerconf

2010-06-05 Thread Markos Chandras
# Markos Chandras (05 Jun 2010) # Runtime segmentation fauls and multiple failures to generate # configuration data. Bug #265465. Masked for removal in 30 days x11-misc/wmakerconf -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org pgpA3Jam6l7cb.pgp Descrip