Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] [EAPI=3] Add approprietly prefixed values of IUSE_* variables to IUSE

2009-07-07 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-07-05 13:36:24 David Leverton napisał(a): > On Sunday 05 July 2009 03:33:54 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > > I would like to suggest that values of IUSE_* variables (whose names end > > with values of USE_EXPAND variable), after prefixing with lower-cased names > > of appropriate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preparing profiles for EAPI 3 IUSE strictness

2009-07-07 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-07-07 01:01:11 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): > ... > Finally, there's room to include plain old flags in IUSE automatically. > This was added to the specification as a hypothetical "we might want > this, and it's easy to specify and implement" rather than a "we'll > definitely be using this". Fl

[gentoo-dev] Re: About time to unify 'cdda' and 'cdaudio' USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-07 Thread Duncan
Jesús Guerrero posted 524cf6368e2642a1637e6e3054466e3d.squir...@jesgue.homelinux.org, excerpted below, on Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:30:58 +0200: > On Tue, July 7, 2009 15:35, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: >> Le mardi 07 juillet 2009 à 13:57 +0100, AllenJB a écrit : [snip] >> >>> Are users really goin

Re: [gentoo-dev] rsync mirrorstats page (generation and parsing)

2009-07-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:09:21AM +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Zac Medico wrote: > > Yeah, here's the history since I started maintaining it: > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~zmedico/projects/mirrorselect.git/ > I've been adding mirror3.xml support to the above today. > Repo over here: > http://git

Re: [gentoo-dev] rsync mirrorstats page (generation and parsing)

2009-07-07 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > I'll try to suck that down soon and build up a larger history with old > tarballs, and then push it somewhere useful. To re-build mirrorselect's complete history we'd need the original tarballs for each line starting with "[ ] " below. Please let us now if you have some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:51:05 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" wrote: > As Denis has already stated we're not interested in the disputes > between you, paludis, exherbo and some other users or projects > (funtoo?). This ml is about Gentoo not about y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alright, seeing that things are getting out of hand again, let me reply as a member of the userrel team. Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:55:02 -0600 > Denis Dupeyron wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran >> McCreesh wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] rsync mirrorstats page (generation and parsing)

2009-07-07 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Zac Medico wrote: > Yeah, here's the history since I started maintaining it: > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~zmedico/projects/mirrorselect.git/ I've been adding mirror3.xml support to the above today. Repo over here: http://git.goodpoint.de/?p=mirrorselect.git;a=summary Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:55:02 -0600 Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran > McCreesh wrote: > > I contribute productively and usefully > > This should have gone in private but I want it to be public because > you and others apparently do not get it. No, this needs to be i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Just putting some weight behind Remi's post On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Rémi Cardona wrote: > Le 07/07/2009 18:20, Ciaran McCreesh a écrit : >> >> I would be entirely happy if you could get the people whose stated aim >> is to disrupt PMS and / or third party package managers to stop >> poiso

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > I contribute productively and usefully This should have gone in private but I want it to be public because you and others apparently do not get it. The fact that you're contributing or not does not give you or anybody else the right to beha

Re: [gentoo-dev] About time to unify 'cdda' and 'cdaudio' USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-07 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Tue, July 7, 2009 15:35, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > Le mardi 07 juillet 2009 à 13:57 +0100, AllenJB a écrit : > [snip] > >> Are users really going to want to fine-tune between just playing or >> also being able to rip/write audio cd's? > > I myself would probably not separate those featur

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:34:32 +0200 Rémi Cardona wrote: > Le 07/07/2009 18:20, Ciaran McCreesh a écrit : > > I would be entirely happy if you could get the people whose stated > > aim is to disrupt PMS and / or third party package managers to stop > > poisoning the atmosphere. > > Then _please_ fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 07/07/2009 18:20, Ciaran McCreesh a écrit : I would be entirely happy if you could get the people whose stated aim is to disrupt PMS and / or third party package managers to stop poisoning the atmosphere. Then _please_ for the love of God just _ignore_ him. Thank you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:09:09 -0600 Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Ciaran > McCreesh wrote: > > Perhaps you should consider that it's your behaviour that's the > > issue here. > > It's both your behaviors, because they're extremely similar. Except > that you seem to have mo

Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer needed for app-accessibility/festival and app-accessibility/speech-tools

2009-07-07 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 01:44:20PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > we have multiple open bugs for app-accessibility/festival and > app-accessibility/speech-tools. > > These packages are very difficult to maintain and upstream appears to be > dead. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Perhaps you should consider that it's your behaviour that's the issue here. It's both your behaviors, because they're extremely similar. Except that you seem to have more time available than slong to express your defensive personality on our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preparing profiles for EAPI 3 IUSE strictness

2009-07-07 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
I don't see the point for this reply seeing that Andrew admitted he was in error half-an-hour ago in this very thread. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:08:01 -0400 > Andrew D Kirch wrote: >> I've talked with the pkgcore people and they don't use the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preparing profiles for EAPI 3 IUSE strictness

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:08:01 -0400 Andrew D Kirch wrote: > I've talked with the pkgcore people and they don't use the EAPI's (or > PMS) in the first place. If that were true, which it isn't, then by Council decision pkgcore should have been package.masked. > This essentially leaves you writing d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:49:34 +0100 Steven J Long wrote: > I'll second that; it's impossible to discuss on bugzilla, as you just > get trolled or spammed. Funny. Other people manage just fine. Perhaps you should consider that it's your behaviour that's the issue here. In the mean time, please prov

Re: [gentoo-dev] About time to unify "cdda" and "cdaudio" USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-07 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le mardi 07 juillet 2009 à 13:57 +0100, AllenJB a écrit : [snip] > Are users really going to want to fine-tune between just playing or > also being able to rip/write audio cd's? I myself would probably not separate those features but they might be because they pull a number of different libs. Gett

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preparing profiles for EAPI 3 IUSE strictness

2009-07-07 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Yeah, that was definately a misunderstanding of something bonzaikitten said. Mea culpa. Andrew Brian Harring wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 02:08:01AM -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > >> Ciaran, >> >> I've talked with the pkgcore people and they don't use the EAPI's (or >> PMS) in the first p

Re: [gentoo-dev] About time to unify "cdda" and "cdaudio" USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-07 Thread AllenJB
Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > Le lundi 06 juillet 2009 à 14:18 -0700, Josh Saddler a écrit : >> Sebastian Pipping wrote: >>> Rémi Cardona wrote: And now for some bikeshedding fun, which flag are we going to keep? ;) >>> My vote would be for cdaudio as that >>> >>> - is more general (includin

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Steven J Long
Brian Harring wrote: > In terms of involvement in PMS, frankly it's not worth it from where > I'm sitting due to ciarans behaviour. > > It's not a matter of having thicker skin- it's literally a question of > worth. Is it worth trying to have a voice if it means exposing > yourself to BS behaviou

Re: [gentoo-dev] About time to unify "cdda" and "cdaudio" USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-07 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le lundi 06 juillet 2009 à 14:18 -0700, Josh Saddler a écrit : > Sebastian Pipping wrote: > > Rémi Cardona wrote: > >> And now for some bikeshedding fun, which flag are we going to keep? ;) > > > > My vote would be for cdaudio as that > > > > - is more general (including analog playback) > > -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preparing profiles for EAPI 3 IUSE strictness

2009-07-07 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Ciaran, > > I've talked with the pkgcore people and they don't use the EAPI's (or > PMS) in the first place. This essentially leaves you writing documents > you're requiring for paludis support. As this seems to be mostly a PM > issue, it s