[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:39:57 +0100 David Leverton wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2009 05:25:06 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > > Hello fellow developers and users. > > > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). > > I wou

[gentoo-dev] New global USE flags (network, 3dnowext, static-libs, mtp)

2009-06-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
USE network is used by 9 ebuilds, and one is using USE networking which can be converted, that'd be 10. USE 3dnowext is basic optimization, 3 ebuilds, but it should be with mmx and others. USE static-libs to enable or disable static libs (archives), used by 6 ebuilds, soon more. USE mtp is used

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-02 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Doug Goldstein wrote: > We have all collectively failed the Gentoo Project since we have not > been doing this for the past several weeks. I propose the following > changes be instituted before the meeting and happen through the > meeting: > 1) Agenda Topics are posted t

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE default value (GLEP 23)

2009-06-02 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: > >> This feature (ACCEPT_LICENSE) is important to remove check_license() >> call from ebuilds which need user input while merging. Interaction in >> ebuild should be avoided and it is a blocker for a fully function

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-02 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). I would like to nominate: darkside scarabeus tanderson Mounir

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein wrote: > All, > > The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for > weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the > senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54, > GLEP55, and EAPI-3 without any real progress or sense c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-02 Thread David Leverton
On Monday 01 June 2009 05:25:06 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). I would like to nominate dirtyepic, as he has repeatedly shown himself to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-02 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Monday 01 June 2009 16:29:35 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > I agree with patrick nominees expect one addition. I add patrick himself to > prove us that he can not only do benchmarks but to force us to do them :D Oh well then. I think I will have to accept your nomination and pour all my ideas into a n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-02 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 01.06.2009, 23:15 -0500 schrieb Doug Goldstein: > All, > > The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for > weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the > senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54, > GLEP55, and EA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Files owned by multiple slots

2009-06-02 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 17:43 +, Sven wrote: > (1) > All gems should be installed from ebuilds only. > > (2) > If an ebuild requires a gem, it has to be installed from the corresponding > ebuild. For all other gems, Gentoo leaves the choice to the user and tries to > work together as well as po

[gentoo-dev] Re: Files owned by multiple slots

2009-06-02 Thread Sven
> This can also be accomplish by a shared dependency package so is there a > particular benefit for extending EAPI to support this? If you look at it from a Gentoo-only perspecitve, there's probably no benefit. But it would allow Gentoo to work together nicely with RubyGems. So (apart from feasab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-02 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Heya, thanks for bringing this up! Doug Goldstein wrote: > All, > > The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for > weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the > senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54, > GLEP55, and EAPI-3

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2009-06-02 Thread Richard Freeman
Mounir Lamouri wrote: I would like to get ACCEPT_LICENSE default value [1] discussed in the next Council. If I can even get it widely discussed in gentoo-dev before the council, a vote will be great. But it looks like it is not interesting so much people out there. Why not make a definitive pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-02 Thread Richard Freeman
Steven J Long wrote: Getting into a nonsensical debate about PN being metadata seems to be the level of the argument, so forgive me for not being very impressed. (It's externally derived and in fact the whole point of the product; unless someone is proposing losing PN and PV from filename, can we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-02 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Dienstag, den 02.06.2009, 01:53 -0400 schrieb Andrew D Kirch: > Doug Goldstein wrote: > > All, > > > > The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for > > weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the > > senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-06-02 Thread Duncan
Steven J Long posted 2115173.05gpc6t...@news.friendly-coders.info, excerpted below, on Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:18:54 +0100: > Surely it would be best simply to ask end-users which of a few variants > they'd find easiest to work with? Or indeed for their suggestions; after > all, they spend a lot mor

[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-02 Thread Duncan
Steven J Long posted 1565621.wyyjxms...@news.friendly-coders.info, excerpted below, on Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:20:34 +0100: > Personally I favour restricting the EAPI='blah' line (which imo should > simply be single-quoted to avoid escaping issues, but whatever: it's > easy enough to lex in C, so I

[gentoo-dev] Accepting nomination for new council elections.

2009-06-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
Someone nominated me for new council, I accept. I will write a manifest later. I'm sorting my mailbox at the moment, so sorry for not finding the correct mail. Thanks, Samuli Suominen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-02 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 01.06.2009, 22:29 +0200 schrieb Tiziano Müller: > The people I'd like to nominate: > > - dertobi123 ... for his solid comments, experience, common sense, > reliability > - halcy0n ... even though he had to resign early I hope he finds time > again to run for council, I really enjoy

[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-02 Thread Steven J Long
Duncan wrote: > Thilo Bangert posted > 200905311126.00274.bang...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 31 May > 2009 11:25:56 +0200: > >> the thing is though, nothing constructive is being said. people are >> going in circles. ciaran and co are pushing glep55 for reasons which >> they have stat

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-06-02 Thread Steven J Long
AllenJB wrote: > lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Alex Legler wrote: >>> For usability's sake, please don't do this. I can imagine users getting >>> confused over the different meanings of the @ sign. >>> > Personally I think the PHP namespace syntax issue

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-cdr/cdrdao: ChangeLog cdrdao-1.2.2-r3.ebuild

2009-06-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
David Leverton wrote: > On Sunday 10 May 2009 09:58:22 Ryan Hill wrote: >> On Sun, 10 May 2009 02:00:17 -0600 >> >> Ryan Hill wrote: >>> You can't test FEATURES in an ebuild. It's portage-specific. >> Actually, am I right? > > Yes. (http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239671#c10 gives a bett