[gentoo-dev] Re: Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, ABCD wrote: > Personally, I would use > find "${D}" -type f \! -newermt "@${stamp1}" -exec \ > touch -c -d "@${stamp1}" {} + > and > find "${D}" -type f -newermt "@${stamp2}" -exec \ > touch -c -d "@${stamp2}" {} + > to avoid an unneeded call

[gentoo-dev] Re: Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > But as far as I can see, something along the lines of the following > two commands [1] should be all that is needed: > > find "${D}" -type f \( -newermt "@${stamp1}" -o -print0 \) \ > | ${XARGS} -0 touch -c -d "@${s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Petteri Räty wrote: > For most features the block is the need for Portage to implement the > feature. If I read the thread correctly, Portage already implements > what is wanted here so it's just a matter of agreeing on the > specification. Not completely. Portage prese

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bzr.eclass: The next level (this time with patch)

2009-03-30 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Faulhammer schrieb: > Hi, > > René 'Necoro' Neumann : >> So I'd vote for switching back to using normal checkouts (or branches >> - they don't really differ in bzr for that matter). > > My tests with Bazaar 1.13.1 show roughly the same tim

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for Willikins

2009-03-30 Thread Thomas Sachau
Stefan Knoblich schrieb: > Hi, > > we'd like to have Willikins join #gentoo.de, so here's my official request :) > Thanks in advance. > > (This is a -nomail subscription, you'll have to CC me.) > > Stefan > > (stkn @ #gentoo.de) > > ok from me for this request. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linu

[gentoo-dev] Request for Willikins

2009-03-30 Thread Stefan Knoblich
Hi, we'd like to have Willikins join #gentoo.de, so here's my official request :) Thanks in advance. (This is a -nomail subscription, you'll have to CC me.) Stefan (stkn @ #gentoo.de)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xorg 1.5.3 is going stable

2009-03-30 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rémi Cardona wrote: > Hi all, > > This is just a quick announcement to let everyone know that Xorg > 1.5.3 and pretty much all X libraries and apps which have been > sitting in ~arch for months/years are finally going to go stable, > replacing our old,

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 30 March 2009, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > > So far, we've got this, by agreement of the Council: > > > > * There will be a default src_install in EAPI 3 > > * It will have a DOCS variable, or something along those lines. > > > > I'd like to suggest the following too

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:19:48 +0100 Sébastien Fabbro wrote: > It's a bit of overtuning, but it could allow features such > re-installing package with switching the doc flag without > the need of re-compiling everything, and trivialize the src_install. Anything involving partial recompiles is way b

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Sébastien Fabbro
On Monday March 30 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > It, along with the half dozen other variants floating around, are good > starting points, but we need a final solution. > Yet another one: how about building/installing the documentation into two separate functions doc_compile and doc_install? It's a

[gentoo-dev] Xorg 1.5.3 is going stable

2009-03-30 Thread Rémi Cardona
Hi all, This is just a quick announcement to let everyone know that Xorg 1.5.3 and pretty much all X libraries and apps which have been sitting in ~arch for months/years are finally going to go stable, replacing our old, rusty and busted 1.3 X server. Arch Teams have received the final packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:07:42 +0300 Petteri Räty wrote: > should have || die where appropriate It's EAPI 3, so it doesn't need it. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > I am aware of the fact that we are late for EAPI 3 (partly because I > didn't expect that the change would require an EAPI bump). Question to > the council: is it still possible to include this? Considering that > there is a lot of breakage, as well as strange workarounds

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:33:48 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Why do you want to force -j1 here? > > Because any package using an old automake has a non-parallel-safe > install. > I would rather have detection in place for old automake in the build system and not force -

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > So far, we've got this, by agreement of the Council: > > * There will be a default src_install in EAPI 3 > * It will have a DOCS variable, or something along those lines. > > I'd like to suggest the following too: > > * If DOCS is explicitly specified, it is an error if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Small change: Global USE flag nsplugin

2009-03-30 Thread Ben de Groot
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > [- c ] nsplugin - Builds plugins for Netscape compatible browsers > > [- c ] nsplugin (media-video/totem): > Build media plugin for Mozilla-based browsers such as > www-client/mozilla-firefox > > Anyone against using the local description for the global one and > e

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh schrieb am 30.03.2009 18:43: >> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:33:48 +0200 >> Thomas Sachau wrote: >>> else >>> for x in AUTHORS ChangeLog NEWS README; do >>> if [ -e ${x} ]; then >> Is -e really better than -s? >> > > I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb am 30.03.2009 18:43: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:33:48 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> else >> for x in AUTHORS ChangeLog NEWS README; do >> if [ -e ${x} ]; then > > Is -e really better than -s? > I think -s should be used here. I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 30.03.2009, 18:05 +0200 schrieb Peter Alfredsen: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:40:14 +0100 > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > No, an EAPI bump is necessary. Older (post-EAPI) Portage versions do > > something different, so any ebuild relying upon particular behaviour > > is already broken.

[gentoo-dev] Small change: Global USE flag nsplugin

2009-03-30 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, one local USE flag nsplugin only differs slightly from the global one: [- c ] nsplugin - Builds plugins for Netscape compatible browsers [- c ] nsplugin (media-video/totem): Build media plugin for Mozilla-based browsers such as www-client/mozilla-firefox Anyone against using the local des

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > On behalf of the Lisp project (which includes the Emacs subproject) > I'd like to propose that preservation of mtimes be included as a > requirement of EAPI3. > [...] > Background: Dynamic languages such as Common Lisp and Elisp, but >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Peter Alfredsen wrote: >> No, an EAPI bump is necessary. Older (post-EAPI) Portage versions >> do something different, so any ebuild relying upon particular >> behaviour is already broken. > For an example of this, see http://bugs.gentoo.org/264308 I would say that is

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:33:48 +0200 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Why do you want to force -j1 here? Because any package using an old automake has a non-parallel-safe install. > And i had this proposal some months ago, which noone argued against > any more It, along with the half dozen other variants f

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > So far, we've got this, by agreement of the Council: > > * There will be a default src_install in EAPI 3 > * It will have a DOCS variable, or something along those lines. > > I'd like to suggest the following too: > > * If DOCS is explicitly specified, it is an error i

[gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
So far, we've got this, by agreement of the Council: * There will be a default src_install in EAPI 3 * It will have a DOCS variable, or something along those lines. I'd like to suggest the following too: * If DOCS is explicitly specified, it is an error if anything in it doesn't exist. * If DO

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:40:14 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > No, an EAPI bump is necessary. Older (post-EAPI) Portage versions do > something different, so any ebuild relying upon particular behaviour > is already broken. For an example of this, see http://bugs.gentoo.org/264308

[gentoo-dev] Xorg 1.5.3 is going stable

2009-03-30 Thread Rémi Cardona
Hi all, This is just a quick announcement to let everyone know that Xorg 1.5.3 and pretty much all X libraries and apps which have been sitting in ~arch for months/years are finally going to go stable, replacing our old, rusty and busted 1.3 X server. Arch Teams have received the final packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:32:12 +0200 "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" wrote: > On behalf of the Lisp project (which includes the Emacs subproject) > I'd like to propose that preservation of mtimes be included as a > requirement of EAPI3. If you want mtime pre

[gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On behalf of the Lisp project (which includes the Emacs subproject) I'd like to propose that preservation of mtimes be included as a requirement of EAPI3. An EAPI bump may not be really necessary for this - after all we're just specifying previou

Re: [gentoo-dev] bugs.gentoo.org status report, 2009/03/19 10h00 UTC

2009-03-30 Thread Ramon van Alteren
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The primary Bugzilla webserver is now back in operation. > > Additionally, for the moment, I've re-enabled the load-balancing, but > note that it comes with a warning... > Load balanced bugzilla webservers: > http://bugs-web-