Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Aaron Lebahn wrote: >> The difference would be that that proposition is web-based. I propose either >> a locally built or pre-built installer. > > and the advantage over say... stage4's? > Incidentally, I wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

2009-03-25 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2009, 23:23 + schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:06:37 +0100 > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > 9) EAPI 3 bans || ( use? ( ... ) ) > > > > What is the suggested replacement? If there's a decent one, sure. > > The replacement is to write the deps out correctl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

2009-03-25 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:18:52 +0100 [snip] > 12) EAPI 3 supports .xz, .tar.xz [snip] Could we have EAPI 3 also support extracting .xpi files? Right now ebuilds use xpi_unpack() from mozextension.eclass which is ugly as hell. It seems it sho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

2009-03-25 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Mittwoch, den 25.03.2009, 23:26 + schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:08:37 +0100 > Tiziano Müller wrote: > > > 8) EAPI 3 requires doins support for symlinks > > > > Current behaviour is to copy the file the symlink points to, right? > > No, current behaviour is undefined for

Re: [gentoo-dev] newins "-" for standard input?

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 23 March 2009 13:01:46 Alec Warner wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>> > >>> Now that "dosed" is going to be banned, what would people think of > >>> "newins" (and the other "new*" commands) accepting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

2009-03-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:08:37 +0100 Tiziano Müller wrote: > > 8) EAPI 3 requires doins support for symlinks > > Current behaviour is to copy the file the symlink points to, right? No, current behaviour is undefined for not a file. > > 14) EAPI 3 supports pkg_info on installed packages > you proba

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

2009-03-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:06:37 +0100 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > 9) EAPI 3 bans || ( use? ( ... ) ) > > What is the suggested replacement? If there's a decent one, sure. The replacement is to write the deps out correctly. Every single use of || ( use? ( ... ) ) in the tree is wrong. > > 2) EAPI 3

[gentoo-dev] April KDE team meeting anouncement.

2009-03-25 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Hi, it is time for me to anounce the meeting for April. This month topics are: - unprefixing misc stuff - moving plasmoids to the tree - kde3 state - moving printing to the tree - upstream responses on packaging snapshots - removing dead members - pykde fixing - handling kdeprefix for base... esele

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Aaron Lebahn wrote: > The difference would be that that proposition is web-based. I propose either > a locally built or pre-built installer. and the advantage over say... stage4's? -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

2009-03-25 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 20:38 Sun 22 Mar , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > 1) EAPI 3 has pkg_pretend. > 3) EAPI 3 has use dependency defaults > 5) EAPI 3 has a default src_install > 15) USE is stricter in EAPI 3 > 19) RDEPEND=DEPEND gone in EAPI 3 > 22) EAPI 3 has nonfatal, utilities die Very Yes. I would really like to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:22:47PM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 02:57:56PM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote: > > > Could you please provide a link to a location where I may find this stage > > > builder proposition? > >

[gentoo-dev] gSoC add Multiple Repository support to sys-apps/portage

2009-03-25 Thread Caleb Cushing
The basic idea is to be able to easily use overlays (without layman). I believe this to be a pre-req to the "Cache Sync" idea listed on the wiki. each repo should be able to have a differently defined way of sync-ing (within predefined standards), I think they should also be capable of defining th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Aaron Lebahn
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 02:57:56PM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote: > > Could you please provide a link to a location where I may find this stage > > builder proposition? > > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/2009_Summer_Of_Code_Ideas#Create_a_Web

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 02:57:56PM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote: > Could you please provide a link to a location where I may find this stage > builder proposition? http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/2009_Summer_Of_Code_Ideas#Create_a_Web-based_Gentoo_image_builder -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Deve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Aaron Lebahn
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > In a similar strain, I'd suggest looking at the stage-builder SoC > proposal by solar. The EeePC would probably be just throwing a tarball > of configuration files over the top of it. > > -- > Robin Hugh Johnson > Gentoo Linux Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:42:28AM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote: > Hello, I would like to apply as a student in the Google Summer of Code > program. I would like to work on creating a simple method to install Gentoo > on an EeePC. This will involve creating scripts and code that will > preconfigure th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-soc] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Josh Saddler
Aaron Lebahn wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Andrey Falko wrote: > > >> Would it be possible to integrate these scripts into Gentoo current >> graphical installer, as well as included on one of the minimal install >> CDs? >> >> > Yes, That would be a good idea. I could add to the grap

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-25 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:06:47 +0100 > Maciej Mrozowski wrote: >> Considering average post count and Gentoo membership on that list, >> I'm pretty convinced you're not entitled to decide who is wasting >> developers' time. > > When you've g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: poppler.eclass

2009-03-25 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:34:01 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Dne středa 25 Březen 2009 19:25:02 Peter Alfredsen napsal(a): > I will just pick parts with notes. Some of them apply on more > places :] > > > # @ECLASS-VARIABLE: HOMEPAGE > > # @DESCRIPTION: > > # HOMEPAGE is set to http://poppler.freed

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:06:47 +0100 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > Considering average post count and Gentoo membership on that list, > I'm pretty convinced you're not entitled to decide who is wasting > developers' time. When you've gained enough experience and knowledge to be able to evaluate the mer

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-25 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Wednesday 25 of March 2009 15:19:36 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Being rude doesn't make you cool. (Nor make your points more > > effective) > > That's not being rude. [...] (no comment) > so you're doing them a > discourtesy by wasting their time by repeatedly posting ideas you > haven't though

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-soc] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Aaron Lebahn
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Andrey Falko wrote: > Would it be possible to integrate these scripts into Gentoo current > graphical installer, as well as included on one of the minimal install > CDs? > > Yes, That would be a good idea. I could add to the graphical install instead of trying t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Aaron Lebahn
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Caleb Cushing wrote: wouldn't one problem with this be that different EeePC's have > different hardware? I believe, that your's has an atom processor while > older models have a celeron. > This problem would add complexity which I would tackle. I would like to e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: poppler.eclass

2009-03-25 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Dne středa 25 Březen 2009 19:25:02 Peter Alfredsen napsal(a): I will just pick parts with notes. Some of them apply on more places :] > # @ECLASS-VARIABLE: HOMEPAGE > # @DESCRIPTION: > # HOMEPAGE is set to http://poppler.freedesktop.org > HOMEPAGE="http://poppler.freedesktop.org/"; Why you describ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aaron Lebahn wrote: > an EeePC. This will involve creating scripts and code that will preconfigure > the Gentoo instalation to be optimized for the EeePC, and to contain all of > the appropriate modules and configurations to enable all hardware on the > EeePC. > I

[gentoo-dev] Please review: poppler.eclass

2009-03-25 Thread Peter Alfredsen
Hi, This is an eclass that provides functionality needed to further split poppler into its constituent libraries and utilities. The current way of doing this, where we have poppler with utils in app-text/poppler and the bindings for qt3, qt4 and glib in app-text/poppler-bindings is suboptimal. 1)

[gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Aaron Lebahn
Hello, I would like to apply as a student in the Google Summer of Code program. I would like to work on creating a simple method to install Gentoo on an EeePC. This will involve creating scripts and code that will preconfigure the Gentoo instalation to be optimized for the EeePC, and to contain all

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:19:12 +0100 Luca Barbato wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Uhm. Do you think these ideas of yours through at all before posting > > them? > > Being rude doesn't make you cool. (Nor make your points more > effective) That's not being rude. It's an attempt to bring your at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

2009-03-25 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 21:18 Sun 22 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote > on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev > list to see. Here's a very simple agenda. I'm at a conference this week, so I'm glad there weren't a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Uhm. Do you think these ideas of yours through at all before posting them? Being rude doesn't make you cool. (Nor make your points more effective) Either you think the entire tree should be switched to a new EAPI in one go, in which case how on earth is that going to ge