Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 07:12 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Except it won't, because ebuilds require bash regardless of which > package manager is being used. If you want to change that you'll have to > rewrite the entire tree. Az once said near enough the same thing about baselayout. And that's y

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:18:43 + Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > paludis requires tr1-whatever libs 4.1 ships those, so you don't need to do anything there. > Maybe one day Gentoo will have a PM that doesn't require any of that > and is just written in C and sh, using POSIX libc where

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - October 29th - November 5th, 2007

2007-11-05 Thread Ryan Hill
Attached are the packages scheduled for removal this week, extended one day to include the treecleaners cleanup. -- looks like christmas at fifty-five degrees this latitude weekens my knees EFFD 380E 047A 4B51 D2BD C64F 8AA8 8346 F

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Roy Marples
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 16:21 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > we want the installed environment to be portable, not the build environment. > i do not see any benefit from forcing the build environment to be pure POSIX > compliant and i see many many detrimental problems. Oh I don't know. Imagine h

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 05 November 2007, Roy Marples wrote: > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 14:21 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > > Actually you missed the mark completely. > > > Nothing in the tree itself specifies what shell to use - instead it's > > > the package manager. So the PM on Gentoo/Linux/FreeBSD *c

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 05-11-2007 20:32:09 +, Roy Marples wrote: > > > > More (generic) unix-able. > > > > > > Exactly so :) > > > > Not really as long as not being bourne shell compatible like autoconf's > > configure. I won't trust to have a POSIX shell like /bin/ksh everywhere, > > but /bin/sh only, which usu

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Roy Marples
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 14:21 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > Actually you missed the mark completely. > > Nothing in the tree itself specifies what shell to use - instead it's > > the package manager. So the PM on Gentoo/Linux/FreeBSD *could* > > be /bin/sh and on the systems where /bin/sh

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 05 November 2007, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 10:13 +, Roy Marples wrote: > > While I still have access to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email, I'll respond here. > > > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 10:22 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > > On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 00:47

Re: [gentoo-dev] Global useflag for enabling visibility support

2007-11-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 05 November 2007, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > On E, 2007-11-05 at 16:19 +0100, Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I think it's time to add a more general flag for enabling visibility > > support in packages as currently there is only a kde specific one > > (kdehiddenvisibility) and I

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/paludis: ChangeLog paludis-0.26.0_alpha3.ebuild

2007-11-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:58 Mon 05 Nov , Piotr Jaroszynski (peper) wrote: > 1.1 sys-apps/paludis/paludis-0.26.0_alpha3.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/paludis/paludis-0.26.0_alpha3.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/view

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-firewall/ipset: ChangeLog metadata.xml ipset-2.3.0.20070828.ebuild

2007-11-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:23 Mon 05 Nov , Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: > 1.1 net-firewall/ipset/ipset-2.3.0.20070828.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-firewall/ipset/ipset-2.3.0.20070828.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sci-mathematics/mathomatic: ChangeLog mathomatic-12.7.9.ebuild

2007-11-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 11:17 Mon 05 Nov , Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2007 02:59:36 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Could you drop the icc USE flag? All you need to do is make sure this > > package respects CC, CFLAGS and LDFLAGS, and users can take care of the > > rest in make.conf. > > > I never

Re: [gentoo-dev] Global useflag for enabling visibility support

2007-11-05 Thread Graham Murray
Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think it's time to add a more general flag for enabling visibility support > in packages as currently there is only a kde specific one > (kdehiddenvisibility) and I don't think it makes sense to add a new one for > each package that needs it. S

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: The Great Treecleaners Mask

2007-11-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (05 Nov 2007) # Masked for treecleaners, removed in 60 days. # See http://tinyurl.com/yu5t35 for references. net-im/jit sys-apps/tcng net-analyzer/snmpmon mail-client/elmo net-im/jud sys-apps/yard mail-client/sylpheed-claws app-editors/beaver media-radio/ktrack

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2007-11-05 Thread Wernfried Haas
With Uberlord's retirement we should do the usual magic voodoo procedure to summon in the next-in-line member (which would be Jokey if i'm not mistaken). cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne (at) gentoo.org Gentoo Forums - http://forums.gentoo.org forum-mods (at) gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Global useflag for enabling visibility support

2007-11-05 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On E, 2007-11-05 at 16:19 +0100, Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > Hello, > > I think it's time to add a more general flag for enabling visibility support > in packages as currently there is only a kde specific one > (kdehiddenvisibility) and I don't think it makes sense to add a new one for > each pa

[gentoo-dev] Global useflag for enabling visibility support

2007-11-05 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
Hello, I think it's time to add a more general flag for enabling visibility support in packages as currently there is only a kde specific one (kdehiddenvisibility) and I don't think it makes sense to add a new one for each package that needs it. I have just added a local "visibility" flag for p

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sci-mathematics/mathomatic: ChangeLog mathomatic-12.7.9.ebuild

2007-11-05 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Friday 02 November 2007 02:59:36 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Could you drop the icc USE flag? All you need to do is make sure this > package respects CC, CFLAGS and LDFLAGS, and users can take care of the > rest in make.conf. > I never put it in and just left it alone as I don't use ICC. I have dro

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 10:13 +, Roy Marples wrote: > While I still have access to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email, I'll respond here. > > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 10:22 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 00:47 +, Roy Marples wrote: > > > > As it seems too few people

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Roy Marples
While I still have access to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email, I'll respond here. On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 10:22 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 00:47 +, Roy Marples wrote: > > As it seems too few people really accept your suggestion, I feel it's > time for me to chime in

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 00:47 +, Roy Marples wrote: As it seems too few people really accept your suggestion, I feel it's time for me to chime in too, although I don't know what exactly POSIX-sh standard defines. > On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 01:19 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > On 02-11-2007 17:35

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/db: ChangeLog db-4.6.21.ebuild

2007-11-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 18:58 Sun 04 Nov , Caleb Tennis (caleb) wrote: > 1.1 sys-libs/db/db-4.6.21.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-libs/db/db-4.6.21.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-libs/db/db-4.6.21