[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grab

2007-07-15 Thread Christian Heim
On Monday 16 July 2007 08:19:19 josé Alberto Suárez López wrote: > I'm the gnap leader/maintainer since Thierry leave gentoo. We are > working in new releases. > > El sáb, 14-07-2007 a las 12:13 +0200, Christian Heim escribió: > > The following packages need some love and/or a new maintainer: > > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grab

2007-07-15 Thread josé Alberto Suárez López
I'm the gnap leader/maintainer since Thierry leave gentoo. We are working in new releases. El sáb, 14-07-2007 a las 12:13 +0200, Christian Heim escribió: > The following packages need some love and/or a new maintainer: > > Previously maintained by Thierry Carrez (Koon): > - dev-embedded/gnap > -

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Matthias Langer wrote: > no offense, but this is one of the worst proposals i've ever read on > this list; why? because, one of gentoo's major problems is that it is > becoming more and more a toy exclusively for its own developers. Gentoo's always been exclusively for the developers. Nobody's pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Will Briggs
Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Matthias Langer wrote: >> by banning non-dev contributors from this list some of you may feel >> better >> - but gentoo as a whole will probably suffer. silencing people doesn't >> make their opinions invalid. > > I keep seeing this argument over and over again. Many people

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-07-15 23h59 UTC

2007-07-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-07-15 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-firewall/firestarter2007-07-10 21:54:09 mr_bones_ app-emacs/ilisp-cvs 2007-07-12 06:37:54 opfer app-emacs/ilisp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Kumba
Duncan wrote: I like the "gentoo-project" (yes, that's better than politics) idea as well, and believe it /could/ solve the problem here, given a couple conditions are met. One, -project is not to be required reading for devs as -dev is. Devs (and others) can ignore it if they wish. Two,

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Pierre-Yves Rofes (p-y)

2007-07-15 Thread Ryan Hill
Petteri Räty wrote: > Please give him the usual flamy welcome. ... py... -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suck an ancient virus from the sea 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) -- [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Matthias Langer wrote: by banning non-dev contributors from this list some of you may feel better - but gentoo as a whole will probably suffer. silencing people doesn't make their opinions invalid. I keep seeing this argument over and over again. Many people are just completely misunderstandin

[gentoo-dev] Re: math-proof herd

2007-07-15 Thread George Shapovalov
Resending, as it seems gmail eats my outcoming mail.. Hi Christian. The corresponding bug is #138059, quoting nattfodd: "The list of software we could add is quite long, too..." Well, looks like the herd did not collect as many packages as it was expected to do. Considering that, I agree that t

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Matthias Langer
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 13:24 -0700, Mike Doty wrote: > All- > > We're going to change the -dev mailing list from completely open to where only > devs can post, but any dev could moderate a non-dev post. devs who moderate > in > bad posts will be subject to moderation themselves. in addition the

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 July 2007, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2007-07-15 21:22:07 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > On Sunday 15 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > > > the day you switch from IUSE="nocxx" to IUSE="+cxx", will you > > > remember that, as a consequence, you have to f

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2007-07-15 21:22:07 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > On Sunday 15 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > > the day you switch from IUSE="nocxx" to IUSE="+cxx", will you > > remember that, as a consequence, you have to fix hardened/2.6/minimal > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-15 Thread Duncan
Torsten Veller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:40:29 +0200: > * Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Torsten Veller schrieb: >> > Let me please point out that no infrastructure team member is on the >> > list right now. >> > >> > As infra i

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grab

2007-07-15 Thread Ryan Hill
Christian Heim wrote: > Here are some more :| > > Previously maintained by Elfyn McBratney (beu): > - app-doc/howto-html > - app-doc/howto-html-single > - app-doc/single-unix-specification I'll take these. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] qmail.eclass draft

2007-07-15 Thread Benedikt Boehm
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:19:08 +0200 Michael Hanselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 03:07:28AM +0200, Benedikt Boehm wrote: > > As it seems, you do not have the time and/or interest to cleanup the > > qmail mess, but don't want anyone to touch (net)qmail ebuilds > > either,

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > My point is just that it doesn't work that well with the USE_ORDER that > have been chosen. Even keeping the "-* in make.conf" case appart > (obviously my opinion on how it should behave was not widely shared, i > can live with that), the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-15 Thread Roy Marples
After being bribed with beer from edit_21, welp and a few others I accept my nomination too. Thanks Roy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP security status

2007-07-15 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Sunday 15 July 2007 15:02, Hanno Böck wrote: > Christian is doing a quite well job in the overlay. I'd prefer if we could > merge his work into the main tree. I could do that, although I'd prefer to > get some review from other devs. php is a hell to maintain I think. Christian just provided an

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Steve Long
Christina Fullam wrote: > I suppose the problem is high-volume and excessive flaming/trolling/OT. > The proposed solution asks that every developer take an active role, > yes, so that could easily equal more work - but I have little doubts > that there are developers that will take an interest in

Re: [gentoo-dev] council and proctors

2007-07-15 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
3. Council blew it. They ignore what proctors were doing, killed COC, and punted.. ++ Poor job or rather interests conflict. On 7/15/07, Ferris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here's one I should sleep on -- I didn't: Not much. Very few

Re: [gentoo-dev] council and proctors

2007-07-15 Thread Timothy Redaelli
Alle domenica 15 luglio 2007, Ferris McCormick ha scritto: > Here's one I should sleep on -- I didn't: > > Not much. > Very few Comments. > I'll start them. > 1. Council is just wrong. They are also just gone. > > 2. I am just wrong. Most likely. > > 3. Council blew it. They ignore

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP security status

2007-07-15 Thread Christian Heim
On Sunday 15 July 2007 15:02:45 Hanno Böck wrote: > Hi, > > At the moment, we have a quite problematic situation with the php ebuilds. > Due to various people doing research on php-issues, there has been a vast > number of security issues in the last months (mopb and others). > > We still have 5.2.

[gentoo-dev] PHP security status

2007-07-15 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, At the moment, we have a quite problematic situation with the php ebuilds. Due to various people doing research on php-issues, there has been a vast number of security issues in the last months (mopb and others). We still have 5.2.2 in the tree. A user, christian hoffmann, is maintaining s

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/15, Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:53:08 +0200 > Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My point is just that it doesn't work that well with the USE_ORDER > > that have been chosen. Even keeping the "-* in make.conf" case > > appa

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:53:08 +0200 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > for some flags yes ... for others, i dislike that idea for the exact > > same reason for the other profile-based suggestions: these defaults >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grab

2007-07-15 Thread Ali Polatel
Christian Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> yazmış: > - app-misc/screenie > - app-admin/xtail > - net-misc/sslwrap > - net-misc/unix2tcp I'll take these lil' ones if noone else wants. -- ali polatel (hawking) pgps4bTWSpOSw.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-15 Thread Torsten Veller
* Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Torsten Veller schrieb: > > Let me please point out that no infrastructure team member is > > on the list right now. > > > > As infra is often involved in implementing council decisions we should > > take care that the information flows. IMHO the easiest way

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-15 Thread Richard Freeman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tiziano Müller wrote: > Torsten Veller schrieb: >> Let me please point out that no infrastructure team member is >> on the list right now. >> >> As infra is often involved in implementing council decisions we should >> take care that the information fl

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] qmail.eclass draft

2007-07-15 Thread Michael Hanselmann
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 03:07:28AM +0200, Benedikt Boehm wrote: > As it seems, you do not have the time and/or interest to cleanup the > qmail mess, but don't want anyone to touch (net)qmail ebuilds either, i > have put the updated ebuilds for qmail and friends into my overlay. [1] You interpret s

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Duncan
Will Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:54:10 +1000: > At the moment gentoo-dev is a "one big noisy room" forum. This is seen > as a "problem" > > Propose solutions have included: > > 1) The "Let's divide up the room" solution - (and so

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-15 Thread Tiziano Müller
Torsten Veller schrieb: > Let me please point out that no infrastructure team member is > on the list right now. > > As infra is often involved in implementing council decisions we should > take care that the information flows. IMHO the easiest way to achieve this > is electing an infra member to

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grab

2007-07-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
Christian Heim wrote: > - dev-tex/hyphen_show (Assigned to tex) I'll take this; I had originally contributed it in 2005. Ulrich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Duncan
Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:54:44 -0400: > I do like the "gentoo-politics" idea that came up a few weeks ago, which > was to move politics off gentoo-dev and to another list, but I'd view it > from another perspective (and avo

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-15 Thread Torsten Veller
* Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 18:23 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > > How is being a devrel member important for the table? I don't think it's > > any more special than any other TLP. > > It is very important in the case of Council members as the Council is > the esc

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for some flags yes ... for others, i dislike that idea for the exact > same reason for the other profile-based suggestions: these defaults > should live in the ebuild, not the profile I agree that putting per-package defaults in ebuilds i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grab

2007-07-15 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Sun, 2007-07-15 at 11:27 +0200, Christian Heim wrote: > - media-libs/exiftool (Assigned to graphics and perl) I'll be happy to take this, I already said as much in the open bugs for it. Kind regards, Hans signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grab

2007-07-15 Thread Tiziano Müller
> - dev-cpp/Ice (cpp herd ?) cpp will take that one > - dev-util/cflow I'll take that one signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grab

2007-07-15 Thread Christian Heim
On Saturday 14 July 2007 12:13:38 Christian Heim wrote: > The following packages need some love and/or a new maintainer: Here are some more :| Previously maintained by Elfyn McBratney (beu): - app-admin/procinfo - app-admin/usermin - app-admin/xtail - app-doc/howto-html - app-doc/howto-html-

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Pierre-Yves Rofes (p-y)

2007-07-15 Thread Pierre-Yves Rofes
On Sat, July 14, 2007 8:30 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: > It's a joint pleasure for me and diox to introduce to you Pierre-Yves "py" Rofes. Instead of the snake people he will be joining our security team. Py originates from Paris, France, and has just finished his studies in computer science. He'll be

Re: [gentoo-dev] laying out arch profiles

2007-07-15 Thread Kumba
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 18:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: you proposing we rearchitect it all or just for testing purposes before going live ? i can see both ... I am proposing rethinking all of it. My current thoughts run something like this: arch/amd64 arch/ppc (not

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Will Briggs
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Fact is -dev's volume is getting to the point where it's productivity is > diminishing. Both with dev <-> dev and dev <-> world. The entire idea > here is to help correct that and makes things BETTER :) I hear you. (Although I disagree that there is a relationship

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-15 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Monday 02 July 2007 21:10, Torsten Veller wrote: > Let me nominate the current council members: > > Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen jaervosz YES. When I start on my new job I'll be a lot more online. I'll write some more before election time. But already now I can say that I will work for keeping G

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Friday 13 July 2007 03:41, Daniel Ostrow wrote: > On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 13:24 -0700, Mike Doty wrote: Works for me. -- Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen Gentoo Linux Security Team -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Friday 13 July 2007 01:17, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:43:59 -0700 > > "Chrissy Fullam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An additional method discussed was to have all non-dev emails on > > a timeout, pick a number of hours, and then the email if not > > moderated would be release

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Pierre-Yves Rofes (p-y)

2007-07-15 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
> Please give him the usual flamy welcome. /me hugs Pierre-Yves -- Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen Gentoo Linux Security Team -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list