Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 06:23:55AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:50:47 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Drop the magic-chicken crap (especially in light of your comments > | about 'professional' news inline in the glep). > > Eh, there aren't any magic

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:50:47 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Drop the magic-chicken crap (especially in light of your comments | about 'professional' news inline in the glep). Eh, there aren't any magic chickens in the glep. | Not really. Just requires your code to be space saf

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 04:15:45AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Here we go again... Changes: > > * We're now supporting overlays, multiple repositories and magic flying > chickens. To do this, we're shoving a whole load of new requirements > onto Portage. Said requirements are documented under

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-17 Thread John Myers
On Saturday 17 December 2005 20:57, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:50:43 -0800 John Myers > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | GLEP 42 wrote: > | > * Before an ``emerge --ask `` sequence > | > | What, exactly, does this mean? I'm guessing it means between the > | package list and the

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:50:43 -0800 John Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | GLEP 42 wrote: | > * Before an ``emerge --ask `` sequence | What, exactly, does this mean? I'm guessing it means between the | package list and the prompt, but it's not quite clear. I dunno, I refuse to use emerge --ask for

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-17 Thread John Myers
Not that my lowly user opinion matters, but I agree with ciaranm that repository IDs should not be allowed to contain spaces GLEP 42 wrote: > * Before an ``emerge --ask `` sequence What, exactly, does this mean? I'm guessing it means between the package list and the prompt, but it's not quite cl

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-17 Thread Andrew Gaffney
I agree with ciaranm (did I really just say that?) that repository IDs should not be allowed to contain spaces. -- Andrew Gaffneyhttp://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux Developer Installer Project -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailin

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-17 Thread Curtis Napier
I agree with ciaranm that repository IDs should not be allowed to contain spaces. Seriously. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
Here we go again... Changes: * We're now supporting overlays, multiple repositories and magic flying chickens. To do this, we're shoving a whole load of new requirements onto Portage. Said requirements are documented under `Required Portage Enhancements`_. I now expect to get heavily flamed by a d

Re: [gentoo-dev] problems crosscompiling libXt

2005-12-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 06:20:33PM -0500, David Thomas wrote: > Here is a fix for libXt, similar to the problems I had with libX11 > last week. I don't see an obvious way to patch the Makefile.am. > Please send comments. yeah, no good ... you need to add logic for a CC_FOR_BUILD which would then

Re: [gentoo-dev] draft glep: multi-repo

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 01:08:31AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:01:59 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Do you need to know how every bit of a car works to drive it? No. > > No, but I do need to know whether it has manual or automatic gears, and > wher

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 01:07:27AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:51:05 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Transitioning from single news.unread to N is going to break clients > | that expect a single. > > Yup. > > | As I said, you're going to break stuf

Re: [gentoo-dev] draft glep: multi-repo

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:01:59 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Do you need to know how every bit of a car works to drive it? No. No, but I do need to know whether it has manual or automatic gears, and where the steering wheel is. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (I can kill

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:51:05 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Transitioning from single news.unread to N is going to break clients | that expect a single. Yup. | As I said, you're going to break stuff- and you're building it into | your glep out of (aparent) stubborness. No no.

Re: [gentoo-dev] draft glep: multi-repo

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:24:48AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:14:15 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | What remaining straw men are there for ignoring the portage > | developers requests? > > Asking you to specify how multiple repositories will work b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:14:30AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:33:18 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:54:06PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > Well, if Portage ever gets multiple repository support, then news > | > clients c

Re: [gentoo-dev] draft glep: multi-repo

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:14:15 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | What remaining straw men are there for ignoring the portage | developers requests? Asking you to specify how multiple repositories will work before I try to extend the GLEP to support multiple repositories is hardly a s

Re: [gentoo-dev] draft glep: multi-repo

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 11:25:58PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:15:48 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | True stand alone repository capabilities aren't required/bound to > | glep42, all that's required out of glep42 is that the syncing repo id > | be us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:33:18 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:54:06PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:48:45 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > wrote: | > | I wish you'd reconsider, because I was looking forward to multiple |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:54:06PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:48:45 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | I wish you'd reconsider, because I was looking forward to multiple > | repository support. > > Well, if Portage ever gets multiple repository support, the

Re: [gentoo-dev] draft glep: multi-repo

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:15:48 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | True stand alone repository capabilities aren't required/bound to | glep42, all that's required out of glep42 is that the syncing repo id | be used now (even if it may seem superfluous). Iow, news *should* | work regar

[gentoo-dev] problems crosscompiling libXt

2005-12-17 Thread David Thomas
Hey all, Here is a fix for libXt, similar to the problems I had with libX11 last week. I don't see an obvious way to patch the Makefile.am. Please send comments. Symptom: ../util/makestrs -i .. < ../util/string.list > StringDefs.c /bin/sh: ../util/makestrs: cannot execute binary file make[2]:

Re: [gentoo-dev] draft glep: multi-repo

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
Pardon bluntness; don't mean offense, just specifically picking the hell out of this proposal to make a point (lucky you) :) On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 03:17:44AM -0500, Andrew Muraco wrote: > Attached is a draft of a glep for formalizing multiple-repository support I appreciate trying to chip in,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 09:21:45PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:16:04 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > Well, that depends... If you have sys-apps/foo installed from the > | > gentoo-x86 repository, and the breakmygentoo repositor

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:16:04 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > Well, that depends... If you have sys-apps/foo installed from the | > gentoo-x86 repository, and the breakmygentoo repository issues a | > news item about sys-apps/foo, should it be displayed? | |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-17 Thread Zac Medico
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Well, that depends... If you have sys-apps/foo installed from the gentoo-x86 repository, and the breakmygentoo repository issues a news item about sys-apps/foo, should it be displayed? Well, probably not. Off hand, perhaps portageq could provide a query that returns som

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:38:24 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Looking into this a little further, it seems that | Display-If-Installed can be implemented with `portageq match / | ` and Display-If-Keyword can be implemented with `portageq | envvar ARCH`. That leaves Display-If-Profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-17 Thread Zac Medico
Zac Medico wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: except that it moves it deeper down into the "how do I determine whether this news item is relevant?" area. And the only way to get around that would be to move even more code into Portage than you're already proposing. Are the currently specified Disp

[gentoo-dev] last rites for net-im/sim

2005-12-17 Thread Carsten Lohrke
When you are interested in sim and willing to fix all bugsĀ¹ and takeover maintainership) speak now. Christmas morning I'll crucify it. Carsten [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110241 pgplrITLoIEF7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Kill dev-libs/commonc++?

2005-12-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:49:21 -0500 Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 02:55 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115707 | > | > dev-libs/commonc++ doesn't compile with gcc 3.4, and isn't depended | > upon by anything. The replacement is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-17 Thread Daniel
> As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html I like it - well done Marius. -- Daniel Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Crypto/PPC/dev-embedded/Forensics/NetMon pgpD3JojbdJir.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] DRAFT GLEP: MULTI-REPO

2005-12-17 Thread Andrew Muraco
I apologize for the caps in the subject. Andrew Muraco -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] DRAFT GLEP: MULTI-REPO

2005-12-17 Thread Andrew Muraco
Attached is a draft of a glep for formalizing multiple-repository support This is far from ideal in many ways, but i'm too tired and I drank too much caffine to be sane. Also, i have no clue how to use docutils so i just tried my best. (** is my way of doing another level of bullets, please le