Re: [gentoo-dev] New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Meder Bakirov
On Monday 06 June 2005 10:18, Alin Nastac wrote: > at the moment, there are 2 radius local useflags: > [+ C ] radius (net-dialup/ppp): > Enables RADIUS support > > [+ C ] radius (net-misc/gnugk): > Enables radius support > but seems that net-misc/ser should also have such flag. > > any ob

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: > Nothing wrong with having three packages with a local use flag. > Global use > flags are for use flags with global appeal/usage. So far, to me it looks > like radius should stay a local use flag. > "Enables RADIUS support" isn't general enough for ya? sig

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
Nothing wrong with having three packages with a local use flag. Global use flags are for use flags with global appeal/usage. So far, to me it looks like radius should stay a local use flag. Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Alin Nastac wrote: at the momen

[gentoo-dev] New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
at the moment, there are 2 radius local useflags: [+ C ] radius (net-dialup/ppp): Enables RADIUS support [+ C ] radius (net-misc/gnugk): Enables radius support but seems that net-misc/ser should also have such flag. any objections? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Doty wrote: >I wonder if there is a svn interface to cvs, or if one could be written. > > > rename/move is a feature of the svn database, not of the svn interface. also support symlinks, btw. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Mike Doty
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 17:44 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: [snip] > it is a laborious work, but it could be done. > too bad we don't use subversion :( I wonder if there is a svn interface to cvs, or if one could be written. -- === Mike Doty

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 04:22:10PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: > Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way > I ever seen. > Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, > pam_smb in net-misc and so on. > > I think we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:57 -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ned Ludd wrote: > > *poof* we now reshuffle, but then we can do auth with ldap. So lets > > move > > all the */ldap* related subjects under it sys-auth/... Then a month or > > six late

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nathan L. Adams wrote: > Well obviously there needs to be a consensus on *how* to logically > organize things before anyone goes willy nilly changing stuff. Do you > group by what the package is used for (email vs. game vs. web browser) > or by what it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ned Ludd wrote: > *poof* we now reshuffle, but then we can do auth with ldap. So lets > move > all the */ldap* related subjects under it sys-auth/... Then a month or > six later comes along sys-ldap and it gets moved there. The logic will > go full

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 21:21 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Sunday 05 June 2005 21:03, Ned Ludd wrote: > > 14 files matching the pam prefix and 18 thing matching description. > You missed pam_ssh. And that's just an example. > By the way... mind telling everyone here how did you do tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 05 June 2005 21:03, Ned Ludd wrote: > 14 files matching the pam prefix and 18 thing matching description. You missed pam_ssh. And that's just an example. By the way... mind telling everyone here how did you do that search? I still feel that looking for pam things in a *single* place is m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Nathan L. Adams wrote: > >>Then why is their a browsable "Categories" link on the packages site? >> >>http://packages.gentoo.org/categories/ >> >> Very good question , .. >>I don't agree with Ned. Organizing the packages logically makes things >>less confusing for the end-user and developers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:25 -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > foser wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 18:34 +0200, Jonas Geiregat wrote: > > > >>I do agree with you but some package just have completely wrong place > >>within portage, such package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 19:34 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Sunday 05 June 2005 17:37, Ned Ludd wrote: > > I think they are fine where they are. Moving stuff around is a waste of > > time. Makes things more complex. Makes more work on everybody. > Sorry but I don't agree with that, at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Lance Albertson
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:50 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: > Solar, > I realize you meant this as a general statement of opinion and not a > flame-baiter, but can you elaborate on: > > On Sunday 05 June 2005 11:37, Ned Ludd wrote: > > Invalidates binary package trees. > > My (wrong?) unde

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Cummings
Solar, I realize you meant this as a general statement of opinion and not a flame-baiter, but can you elaborate on: On Sunday 05 June 2005 11:37, Ned Ludd wrote: > Invalidates binary package trees. My (wrong?) understanding was that this is addressed when portage runs a fixpackages (ot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 05 June 2005 17:37, Ned Ludd wrote: > I think they are fine where they are. Moving stuff around is a waste of > time. Makes things more complex. Makes more work on everybody. Sorry but I don't agree with that, at least for the particular case of pam. The way it's now, makes my work hardwa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 foser wrote: > On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 18:34 +0200, Jonas Geiregat wrote: > >>I do agree with you but some package just have completely wrong place >>within portage, such package placements migh confuse the user. >>To give an example: mzscheme was place

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-06-05 Thread Paul Varner
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 21:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 06:20 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to > > get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious > > last chance ! > > can someone forward the origi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread foser
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 18:34 +0200, Jonas Geiregat wrote: > I do agree with you but some package just have completely wrong place > within portage, such package placements migh confuse the user. > To give an example: mzscheme was placed in dev-lisp while portage had a > dev-scheme directory. The cu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Ned Ludd wrote: >On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:22 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > > >>Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way >>I ever seen. >>Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, >>pam_smb in net-misc and so on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:22 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way > I ever seen. > Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, > pam_smb in net-misc and so on. > > I think we should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ian Leitch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way > I ever seen. > Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, > pam_smb in net-misc and so on. > > I thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: >Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way >I ever seen. >Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, >pam_smb in net-misc and so on. > >I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam cate

[gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way I ever seen. Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, pam_smb in net-misc and so on. I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with implementations (Linux-PAM an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Omer Cohen
On 6/5/05, Stuart Longland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Omer Cohen *top-posted*: > > what's wrong with that? :/ > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > While, sure, OpenOffice _can_ read Word format, it's far from perfect at > doing so... and besides, we're in the business

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Stuart Longland
Omer Cohen *top-posted*: > what's wrong with that? :/ http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html While, sure, OpenOffice _can_ read Word format, it's far from perfect at doing so... and besides, we're in the business of promoting Open Source, not pushing it to one side. ;-) Also, can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Omer Cohen
I dropped the file since I thought there was somthing wrong with it, I'll put it back on right now as rtf. www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.rtf enjoy  On 6/5/05, aLeJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: El dom, 05-06-2005 a las 14:48 +0200, Omer Cohen escribió:> what's wrong with that? :/>The url is not working

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Sunday 05 June 2005 13:48, Omer Cohen wrote: > what's wrong with that? :/ > > On 6/5/05, aLeJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Adding my resume for those who are interested > > > www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.doc > > > > > > > I don't think that posting you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread aLeJ
El dom, 05-06-2005 a las 14:48 +0200, Omer Cohen escribió: > what's wrong with that? :/ > The url is not working and therefore, it's not a very good idea to use close text formats so as you can use rtf, pdf, html... Make things easy and don't complicate them (it's only my opinion) -- gentoo-dev@

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Omer Cohen
what's wrong with that? :/ On 6/5/05, aLeJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adding my resume for those who are interested> www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.docI don't think that posting your CV in doc format is a very good primerstep, isn't it?--gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- Thanks,Omer Cohenwww.om

[gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread aLeJ
> Adding my resume for those who are interested > www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.doc I don't think that posting your CV in doc format is a very good primer step, isn't it? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Omer Cohen
Adding my resume for those who are interested www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.doc  On 6/5/05, Omer Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I saw the post by Joans and I decided to bring it up again.   About two months ago I came here wanting to become a developer, since I'm a PHP programmer I came to Stuart

[gentoo-dev] Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Omer Cohen
I saw the post by Joans and I decided to bring it up again.   About two months ago I came here wanting to become a developer, since I'm a PHP programmer I came to Stuart asking him to by my mentor and help me get to know things before opening a developer bug for me.   Lately stuart was pretty busy

Re: [gentoo-dev] looking for mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat
>I may not have interpreted your message correctly. If I inferred something >from it that you didn't intend to convey, please clarify. > >Developing the Portage software itself is an entirely different process than >creating an ebuild: unless you're planning to contribute enhancement code to >Gent