Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Jan Kundrát
Stuart Longland wrote: > Anyway, wouldn't security updates include the core system, rather than > just things like Apache? Security updates are updates which are fixing *security* problems. Upgrading glibc is not a security update, IMHO :-). -jkt -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth sig

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 2 May 2005 21:48:10 -0500 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clarify why portage, which _does_ function as a secondary pkg manager > (collision-protect wouldn't exist otherwise) wouldn't suffice if > someone gave enough of a damn to do the work? Off-topic, but collision-protect

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Brian Jackson
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 21:48 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: > > > If you want some package manager > > for your solaris/x86 box(just an example!), go talk to the people that > > do openembedded. > > Clarify why portage, which _does_ function as a secondary pkg manager > (collision-protect wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 09:11:03PM -0500, Brian Jackson wrote: > Well, I've got a bug open to have a different variable like ROOT that > portage would read config files from. Maybe you could jump on that > bandwagon, and see if you can make things work that way. Assuming you're referencing CONFIG_

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Brian Jackson
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 20:58 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brian Jackson wrote: > > Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > > > > >>Hi ebuild devs, > >> > >>Here's a glep draft now for (a part of) the long-term portage-goal > >>"act as a secondary packag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 02 May 2005 08:45 pm, Alec Warner wrote: > >>The only dish I have is what if a new profile doesn't support what they >>are attempting to do? If something is profile masked ( gcc fex ) there >>is no way currently for

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Jackson wrote: > Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > >>Hi ebuild devs, >> >>Here's a glep draft now for (a part of) the long-term portage-goal >>"act as a secondary package manager" ... >> >>Comments welcome, >> haubi >> >> > > It's fancy, but w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 02 May 2005 08:45 pm, Alec Warner wrote: > The only dish I have is what if a new profile doesn't support what they > are attempting to do? If something is profile masked ( gcc fex ) there > is no way currently for a user to unmask it, even in /etc/portage. yes there is, you just didnt r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The only dish I have is what if a new profile doesn't support what they are attempting to do? If something is profile masked ( gcc fex ) there is no way currently for a user to unmask it, even in /etc/portage. In the end they just might symlink make.

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 03:13:56PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 02 May 2005 14:22:15 +0200 Michael Haubenwallner > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Hi ebuild devs, > | > | Here's a glep draft now for (a part of) the long-term portage-goal > | "act as a secondary package manager" ... > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Stuart Longland
Jan KundrÃt wrote: > Stephen P. Becker wrote: > > > Removing old profiles will do nothing other than forcing them to set a > > new profile. Changing the profile won't stop people from doing security > > only updates. > > Okay, as long as "changing the profile" won't affect people *much* (I > mea

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Brian Jackson
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: >Hi ebuild devs, > >Here's a glep draft now for (a part of) the long-term portage-goal >"act as a secondary package manager" ... > >Comments welcome, > haubi > > It's fancy, but what about ROOT? You don't like it just because you'd have /usr/local/usr/bin/foo? --

[gentoo-dev] New Developer: Omkhar Arasaratnam (omkhar)

2005-05-02 Thread slarti
Hi list, I've just setup Omkhar with access. He's a new developer who's going to be helping with the PPC64 port. Straight from his quiz: Born in Toronto, Canada, Omkhar works for a mutinational computer corporation as a security consultant. Omkhar enjoys trying out new foods and travelling to ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Jan Kundrát
Stephen P. Becker wrote: > This is really getting into a whole different > discussion altogether about having a security update only tree, but > there has been talk of this a few times before...search the mailing list > archives. Yep, of course I know; I wasn't asking for "stable" tree. > Removin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Stephen P. Becker
> What is bad about doing *only* `emerge --sync` and security updates? Nothing, however if they have been doing security only updates, I think that their install won't be *too* far behind the stable tree. Besides, at some point old ebuilds are completely removed from portage anyway, and therefore

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Jan Kundrát
Stephen P. Becker wrote: > Portage should have been warning such users about using a deprecated > profile for some time now. So, they should have updated to a new > profile by now. Surely most people have synced portage sometime recently > and done an emerge -uD world. If somebody is using a port

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Stephen P. Becker
> What would happen to users having *really* old version of Gentoo, say > something from end of 2003? Is there an easy way to upgrade? > > TIA, > -jkt > Portage should have been warning such users about using a deprecated profile for some time now. So, they should have updated to a new profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] gnome repoman

2005-05-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 02 May 2005 10:47 am, Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: > Here's the repoman from this morning with the word "gnome" on the line: i fixed the hppa crap last nite and started ia64 -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenLDAP 2.2 series

2005-05-02 Thread Grant Goodyear
Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Mon May 02 2005, 08:39:48AM CDT] > On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 19:00 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: > > Thanks for the note. > > > > My personal opinion is that this sort of news item is the sort of thing > > that we need to do a better job of announcing widely. I'm going to CC >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Jan Kundrát
Stuart Longland wrote: > I'd certainly welcome a cleanup here... clean out the dead wood. ;-) What would happen to users having *really* old version of Gentoo, say something from end of 2003? Is there an easy way to upgrade? TIA, -jkt -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth signature.asc D

[gentoo-dev] gnome repoman

2005-05-02 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
Here's the repoman from this morning with the word "gnome" on the line: app-accessibility/gnopernicus/gnopernicus-0.10.5.ebuild: ~mips(default-linux/mips/2004.2) ['>=app-accessibility/gnome-speech-0.3.5'] app-accessibility/gnopernicus/gnopernicus-0.10.7.ebuild: ~mips(default-linux/mips/2004.2) ['

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 02 May 2005 14:22:15 +0200 Michael Haubenwallner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Hi ebuild devs, | | Here's a glep draft now for (a part of) the long-term portage-goal | "act as a secondary package manager" ... Why did you post this without addressing the problems I pointed out to you previo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-02 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 13:11 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > They > > make profile changes a mess for anyone who wants to do something crazy > > like change default USE flags for everyone. > > it's simple, dont bother touching the non-cascaded version. no one said you > had to :P Agreed. I do

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenLDAP 2.2 series

2005-05-02 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 19:00 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: > Thanks for the note. > > My personal opinion is that this sort of news item is the sort of thing > that we need to do a better job of announcing widely. I'm going to CC > the GWN folks on this e-mail as well as our PR folks, to see if eit

[gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Hi ebuild devs, Here's a glep draft now for (a part of) the long-term portage-goal "act as a secondary package manager" ... Comments welcome, haubi -- Michael HaubenwallnerSALOMON Automation GmbH Forschung & Entwicklung A-8114 Friesach bei Graz mailto:[EMAI

Re: [gentoo-dev] File counter

2005-05-02 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 02 May 2005 10:11, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenà wrote: > I'm moving the patches for packages which needs 2 or more patches every > versions in patchset tarballs which get downloaded only when requested. Okay as foser pointed out that wasn't so obvious, I'm referring just and only to package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Development Guide

2005-05-02 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > ... also known in its former lives as the "Bash Guide" and "The Doc". I read few pages and I think quite are nice, good job. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Manager http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mai

[gentoo-dev] File counter

2005-05-02 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Ok I was a bit quiet lately but that's only because I was vocal elsewhere (irc) ;).. You can find attached a little script I wrote last night to get a count of files in $FILESDIR for packages to make sure they just are the few needed, as I'm moving the patches for packages which needs 2 or more